Prison is a young man’s game.

0:01About being in prison, three different times and three different things, for 18 months apiece, all right? Now, here’s the crazy part, I didn’t go to prison until I was 30, I was a late bloomer, you know? But every 10 years, I go back for a year and a half fucking reassessment, fucking, you know? Yeah, yeah, but I’m past that now, so, you know, and besides prison is a young man’s game. Yeah, for sure. So what’s the game like in prison? You know what?

0:49When I was in Osage County, all right, I was on the prison detail, all right, they like took Hey, what’s going on?

1:13How are we doing? Yeah, I’m headed that way. You need me to drop you off?

1:19Well, give me some money so I can get right there so I’m good.

1:25Damn it, man. Come on, Johnny. Ah, hell.

1:39What’s up?

1:43Sorry about that. You’re all good, man. But what you’re saying, it’s a young man’s game. That’s a cool shirt.

1:50Well, I mean, you know.

1:56You said you went back when you were 30, you’re a late bloomer. Well, no, that was the first time I went to prison, I’m sorry And now you said you have to go back for assessments? Um, I, uh, I got my GED in, uh, Hutchison, Kansas Before I got lied out and, uh, and I came here my first time You know, uh, uh, I got 332, which is crazy because that’s the same number of the cam sticks that I had in my car. Oh yeah? Yeah. It was a 332, 595 lift. Life’s full of coincidences, huh? Well, no, I believe that it happens and it warrants itself, okay.

3:02My sister was dying from Toxic Shock Syndrome and she had a 96% check and fucking dying and I went down there alright and my sister’s like a size number two you know like 89 and 98 pounds and I got down there and she had Toxic Shock Syndrome and it was poisoning her from the inside out

3:33and she looked like Jabba the Hutt and they had her on a motion bed and she was rolling around and I almost ran over the nurse behind me. I said, where is the fucking church? She said, it’s in the basement. And I went down there and I told my fucking stuff on the ground and she had a three-year-old and a one-and-a-half-year-old. And the reason that she kept the one-and-a-half-year-old is because they found cancer. They were gone, you know, and she’s like, better have the fucker now than never, you know, all right? And so, but yeah, but I never doubted Jesus Christ and God after that point, all right?

4:29you know, I mean don’t get me wrong, everybody went to church with their grandparents, you know, and after that we went to church because if you went during the summer they would take you to worlds of fun, you know, I like that, keep the incentives coming, well I mean you You know, but you still had friends, and you still made, you know, you know, I’ve never had a problem in my life making friends or anything like that, you know, you know, it’s just falling out of friendships sucks, you know, what did you say? Falling out of it sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, falling out of friendships. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, shit like that’s a motherfucker.

5:44Yeah, it’s hard to lose relationships. People are important. Community is important. Well, but here’s the deal. They’re going in a different direction and, you know, it classes and doesn’t let it fucking work, you know. Sorry about that shit, you know. Sorry about that. I mean, you know, oh, it was just that air music. That’s different. Yeah, come shop at Bold and Triangle Wine and Spirits He’s always been, you know What’s up, boss, how you feeling? I’m not on

6:48So, when you said you were doing methamphetamine before, yeah? You were doing that with other people by yourself primarily

7:04I started out drinking all through the fucking day And then whatever fucking money I got or whatever ground scores or whatever, I, you know, put it over in the methamphetamines and the last time I ever did a shot of heroin and speech, I remember looking up and I could see the mirror and I started saying the Lord’s Prayer because that’s where my, the Narcan shot was.

8:03I remember looking at it and I thought there’s no way in fucking hell I can get there. Alright? Yeah. And I went to sleep saying the Lord’s Prayer and I woke up saying the motherfucker. And I was still alive in the morning and I never fucking stuck a needle in my arm since that day since. Why?

8:31That’s a good reason. It scared you. Why do these guys do this fitting? Every third hit it can kill you or whatever the fuck it is. Why would you want to do something? That’s just like sitting there playing. Watch the deer hunter. mm-hmm you know hmm you know I mean why do something stupid like that with you you know there’s a scooter behind us oh you’re good what was the culture like around heroin and methamphetamine same it is now just I go hang out with them a little bit you know this one dude used to drive by and like give me

10:00We had this motherfucking beer can, broke out, smoking it on the ass end of it, you know, and I mean, you know, it was fucking, you know, high as fucking tight, but I started shooting dope when I was 17 years old.

10:34But, not shootin’ dope, shootin’ dope. I mean like once a month on the weekends, you know, when I had the fuckin’ money, you know, everything I’d go on gas, you know. I’d buy like four or five cases of fuckin’ bears and an ounce of weed, alright, and I’d do a half a gram of my mouth, I’d do a quarter of each, you know.

11:10and I start eating Xanaxes on Sunday and drinking the bear. Oh, yeah. And we go fishing, you know, I mean, but we had ponds, reefs, creeks, rivers, you know. I mean, it was good to meet me. Yeah, you can enjoy the outside. You can play outside. You got the whole world. Well, no, I mean, I had to go out in the woods and be with the animals. and look at them. When an animal walked by, I would go down there and study, you know, what it looked like, what, you know, the footprints it had, you know. It was cool, you know, and we had, you know, fishing, Cardin Creek, fucking Whiskey Creek, Bumblebee Creek, down on

12:18Bumblebee Creek was bad ass man. For Channel Cat, man, you know, hook five pounders out of there all goddamn damn odd. Oh yeah.

12:32You know, beautiful Channel Cat, you know, had fun. I think my dad, I first started shooting it when I was six, but it was browning, 22, automatic, you know, and it was kind of crafty, it was the, it was the, the marksman’s model, it was It’s kind of like the woodsman, but I tell you what, I could fucking shoot, I just bought my pump action, I come back and I had two shells left. Oh yeah? For my, uh... You were six? I see, no, I was about 16. Okay. And, uh, matter of fact, I just, yeah, because I had to have another guy signed for my rifle

13:41because I wasn’t 18. And I come back and I had two ICCV mags left, and my brother-in-law had been outside shooting stuff in the creek, and he had an eagle eye. Oh yeah, he could see it. All right, so I get there, and I got two shells left, and I stick them in the magazine, and I grab the plastic container that the shells had came from, and I throwed it at the fucking creek, and it landed in the middle. Yo, Tim, I can’t talk right now. I’m outside Circle K by the spot we shot the video at high times. But my sister says, you’ll never be able to hit that. I’ve been out here with David all day and he’s kind of eagle-eyed.

14:39I took that motherfucker and I shot right under it and I blowed it in the air and when it came back down, I broke a little bit too much out of it and it started stinking faster so I had to go ahead and blast it. Well, I was like, I’ve been shooting this gun since I was six years old, bitch. Yeah, stop playing with me. I mean, you know, he’s 26, so, you know, but, you know, it was fun. Well, you gonna get some cigarettes? Let’s get these cigarettes, man. I’ll get you some water, too. How about a beer? I have an ID, so, yeah, you can do that.

15:19Ah, cool.