0:15BI mean, that was --
0:16Aand I remember I was just reading somewhere, um, I was thinking like countries like say Ghana or Nigeria where they speak predominantly English. Would be okay, but then Ghana just made a pact with the United States to have the U.S.
0:30Ccome in and use up all the gold.
0:32AWhat are you doing? I mean, like, what? Your founding father spoke against that. Completely against that. What are you doing?
0:43BThat’s what I was saying about Walter Rodney. His approach to Pan-Africanism was a mass-based approach, so he’s not necessarily looking at these governments. He’s dealing with the masses because what he realized You know, you might have a black government, but that government isn’t necessarily serving a black interest. So one of the issues that we’re going to run into is people that say, well, let’s separate, let’s, you know, go back to Africa. Well, where are you going to go in Africa? Because all these countries are dominated by the same people that dominate you here in the United States. So that’s why I think --
1:07CYou may not be respected or liked by the Africans.
1:09AYeah, because most Africans are like, you’re not even African, you came from way over there, are you over here now?
1:14BI know, me personally, I’ve never encountered this issue, but I know a lot of people have. I mean, from Nigerians, I’ve seen people say like, they’ve met Nigerians like, well, you’re a slave, you have no connection. But that’s not me personally, like I’ve never dealt with that, but I know it gets really -- I mean, I’ve met Africans that come here and have the same comments that, you know, Black Americans would make on Caribbean people. So you -- I mean, again, it goes back to why it’s so difficult to organize Black people, because even just national divisions, you have people that won’t deal with a particular person because, you know, you’re from Africa or you’re from the Caribbean. I mean, even within the Caribbean, you have certain islands that don’t like you, you know, certain people. So we have all kinds of --
1:46AI’ve heard people like, Caribbean, you know, my island is bigger than yours. You’re like, what the fuck?
1:52BIt’s not even yours.
1:55Dthis, this is the problem, right? We have Black bodies but white minds. Black bodies, white minds. So you have a Black body, right? But even, even your tastes, your aspirations, your tastes, your food you eat, um, your, your, your -- the car you drive, the watch you wear, the everything about you is still white. So if the white man were to even disappear, you would still have his mind. Yeah, so really it’s about capturing, recapturing, um, re-Africanizing yourself. Even those on the continent are white-minded.
2:38EOh yeah.
2:39DIn their own country, from religion to politics, you know, and so forth. So then again, also these systems are basically all set up by Europeans. Politics is a European system.
2:50CRight.
2:50DThink about it. I came with ANC, EFF, it’s all lined up to fall into the power play. If you go against that resource, land, oil, gold, metals alliance, global alliance, you’ll be eliminated. So we got to go beyond politics and begin to understand the strategic minerals in the ground because that’s what activates and moves government and money and people and military. That’s where we’re at. So let’s get away your dashiki, and that’s fine, and Wakanda, and that’s fine, and Black Panther, that’s fine. But the thing about it is changing the Black body with the white mind.
3:33CMm-hmm.
3:35DFrom your woman to the kids watch on TV, the whole entire thing, your whole religion, the whole Even even having to have to adapt at the job to accommodate the boss, so to speak, is damaging to the psyche. Living in that what did your boys call it? The double consciousness.
3:56AThat right there.
3:57DSo you got to go combat the double conscious.
4:01CSee, I walk that thin white line.
4:03DYes, yes, yes. Between that. Yeah, that’s the problem.
4:08AThat’s the problem.
4:10DThat’s the problem. The black body with the white mind. Yeah, because even if you became king, what’s his name? You still want those things that the white man had.
4:23BFriends, family.
4:24AYeah, yeah, yeah. He, um, he wrote a book about that.
4:27BYeah, yeah, yeah.
4:28AI’m out of it.
4:29DYeah, yeah.
4:30AI’m saying we already have the answers already.
4:33DFrantz Fanon, Walter Rodney. Farrakhan, Marcus Garvey, Harriet Tubman, Malcolm X, Dr. King. The answers are somewhere in between those people. You know, Marimba Ani, you know, Amos Wilson. We got all the books.
4:49BI got a stack, I got a whole wall full of books.
4:51DBut the problem is -- Like the brother here said, yeah.
4:55AYeah, but the problem is --
4:56DHow do we, like you said a while ago, right, how do we now take these feelings, these emotions, These fears, these concerns, how do we galvanize them? See, he’s here with his son, right? He could be at Disneyland, right? So he’s here. Well, he wanted to go to Legoland. I was like, yeah, I’m good.
5:18ERight?
5:18DHe’s bringing his son here and not going to the, um, basketball game downtown or the football game, Magic, whatever. He got his son here, so he’s serious. He putting his son, exposing his son to this.
5:30CNot exposing.
5:32DNever get a school.
5:34CNever get a school.
5:34ENo.
5:34AYou know what?
5:34CYou always have to walk. We talked about it before. You always gotta walk that fine line. I’m I’m a sticker for giving my son an education.
5:41BRight.
5:41AOkay.
5:41CBut I’m also a sticker for you learning about yourself.
5:43DRight.
5:44AYeah.
5:44CYou know what I mean? Because like I said, they’re not gonna teach you anything about yourself in school. Right. And I got that from you also.
5:49AYeah.
5:50CYeah.
5:50AI know.
5:50CI know. Education is great. Formal education is great. Self-education is better because without your self-education, that motivation to uplift and build yourself is not going to be there because you’re not going to get it from outside. Period. You shouldn’t have to look for it outside anyway.
6:07DAnyway, yeah.
6:08CYou should be about it yourself. That’s the type of stuff I had to beat into my son’s head.
6:13AYou know what I mean?
6:14EUm, no.
6:15CGot to.
6:16DSo you’re changing the whole paradigm. You’re changing the whole paradigm.
6:20CNot to cut you off, but like you said about the visuals on TV, the garbage on the radio, all the rest of the stuff, it’s so hard to fight those thoughts. I mean, I was just a teenager, right?
6:31ARight.
6:31CYou know what I mean? But at the same time, I grew up in an era of, you know, public enemy, X-Clan, stuff like that. You know what I mean? So it was always out there. Those images are already out there.
6:41BRight.
6:42CLike, I always saw and always heard, okay, What is that about? Okay, let me look and research that and see what that is about. Nowadays, kids, man, they don’t even hear that. I hate that fact that they cover up so much and they put so much garbage out there for them to see. I can’t -- I really can’t stand that.
7:03DYou never do garbage songs though. It’s like fast food. It’s like fast food.
7:06CIt’s fast food and it’s quick garbage. Quick garbage. Garbage. Garbage.
7:10BHere’s the thing about the rap garbage that, you know, people Look at this. Who’s buying the garbage? Majority of people that buy rap albums are not black people. White people consuming. So it’s a situation where white people actually dictate what’s being put out there.
7:23CBut they try, they try to dictate, and then they control the record. Because I was a dread type. I was always, always in hip-hop culture. You know what I mean? But the stuff that y’all put out now, there’s no way I would want anybody listening to. Not just not white. Anybody, because this is some mess here.
7:41AYeah, not even animals. You wouldn’t even play music, that music, to some animals, for your dog or cat, you know what I’m saying?
7:46DWell, first of all, right, that music really liberated Black people. It would be banned.
7:52AYeah.
7:53DIf it really liberated Black people.
7:54CYeah, but that’s what they did.
7:55ABut that’s what they did. They changed the whole industry.
7:57CThey changed that paradigm.
7:59DChanged it.
7:59CYou’re not listening to this no more. There’s too many of y’all going to college. You remember A Different World and everything? You know, children my age back then.
8:05AI’m with you, man.
8:07CAll that stuff came on. I was like, I’m going to college and all the rest of the stuff. Now the images on TV is hip-hop Miami, a bunch of people running around with money that’s not theirs.
8:18DHip-hop wives.
8:19COh my God, I don’t even watch regular television.
8:23ELet me piggyback off something my brother just said about the black mind and white mind in the black body. To add on to that, and what you said, also saying about the education. There’s education and there’s education.
8:41COkay?
8:42EAnd to get that white mind out of that black body is to find a way to get back to your beginning, to your origin, and put that black mind back in that black body.
8:56AMm-hmm.
8:56EThe only way you’re gonna do that is for each of us to begin to understand and know who we are. If you don’t know who you are, you’re never going to replace that white mind. Now, that, that’s your -- that’s the history part that you’re talking about, but there’s also something else included in that. It’s a mindset. It’s a way of looking at life. This life, or this construct, as you said, that we’re living in is a false construct created by the Europeans.
9:24AMm-hmm.
9:24EOur people don’t know that. Because they don’t know who they are. Not only on this continent, but on the continent of Alkebulan, anywhere else in any other continent, South America, wherever, Japan, you got blacks all over the place. That is what we got to pull up, come back to. But it’s not going to be easy because you understand when you say you’re living in this false construct, the Europeans controlling everything, they will do whatever is necessary to continue to keep that control. So no, we’re not going to sell a piece of land or try to get a piece of land and devoid ourselves of them because they’re not going to allow that to happen as long as they’re in control. Like Malcolm said, by any means necessary. And, and that’s really the same thing that they have done everywhere they have went. They have conquered and taken. They’re not going to give it back. They’re not going to give the land back. They’re not going to give you your mind back.
10:20CYou might as well hold your breath for that 40 acres and a mule.
10:25EOkay, but unless you go out and take it.
10:26AYeah, yeah.
10:27EOkay, so you -- we, even though we hate to say it, probably one of the ways, one of the ways that we’re gonna ever, as a Black people, get out of this situation, they’re gonna have to take us seriously, that we mean business, in order to be willing to die for it.
