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Eight minutes on Colfax with an illustrator who has built a life almost entirely out of things the rest of us gave up. She moved to Denver from Los Angeles three years ago, lives on Capitol Hill, draws everything by hand, and has no Wi-Fi at home.

On the city she is careful rather than sentimental. “It’s really quiet out here.” Then, in the same breath, the reason that is not a complaint: “Like dead city” -- “but in a great way.” She misses the ocean. What she has instead is a neighbourhood. “There’s a pretty good sense of community, especially out here in Cap Hill”, and the proof is small and specific: “I know my neighbors.” Asked about gentrification she declines the easy answer: “I’m probably the worst person to ask about that since I just moved here recently.”

The work is illustration, and the method is the point. “Everything’s done pen on paper.” “A lot of my work sort of centers around like nudity and nature”, and the response she gets is that “they haven’t seen a style like that before.”

Where she lives follows from what she thinks of where she does not. RiNo, she says, is tech-bro country, and her objection is not the one you expect. The rent is in it -- “raising my rent”, she says, and food costs with it -- but that is not what she leads with. “I just feel like they’re really boring.” Boring is the charge she cares about.

Then AI, put to somebody with the strongest possible standing to answer. “As a handdrawn artist myself” -- and no. What follows is not a position paper, it is a thing that happened: “The Denver Art Museum like uploaded something that was AI on one of their posters”, the staff were angry, and “we actually got them to remove it, that image.”

What makes the exchange work is that Maceo does not pretend to agree. “I use AI a lot. I’m not going to lie.” She is not interested in litigating that; her line is drawn at art and nowhere else, and she has a use for it of her own: “If I can get it to wash my goddamn dishes, that’d be awesome.”

On the internet she names a date. “There was a point in time where I think the internet should have stopped um progressing” -- around 2007, she thinks, because a smartphone is when people stopped talking to each other. She is considering trading her phone for a watch and a flip phone. Meanwhile: “I love ’9s technology.” A box TV. “I don’t have Wi-Fi.” Over a hundred VHS tapes and DVDs -- horror, Stephen King, Sailor Moon, an entire Frieza saga box set, Office Space.

And then the comic, which is called The Little Cunt Chronicles and is the best-natured thing in the tape. “It’s about two best friends”: a girl who lives in the forest, and “a little yellow bird that uh doesn’t speak” and can only say meow. The bird is real -- “it’s actually based off my cat, who I call bird.” Volume two is a journey to a nearby town for medicine because Bird is sick. There are no big arcs yet, and she is unbothered: “Huge character development going on still.”

Asked at the end what she would say to somebody under the age of nine, she does not hesitate, and it is the line the piece should be remembered for. “You are kind, you are smart and you are worthy.” She says it the way somebody says a thing they have needed to hear themselves.

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0:00[bleeped] up story. Oh, I got that. Ex-boyfriend. Some [bleeped] like that. Yeah, I hear that. You’re single now, huh? Uh, no. No. New boyfriend’s in town, but Yeah. Yeah. No, we’ve been together for like 3 years. He’s Denver native, so

0:12Okay, that’s sweet. There’s not a lot of those, it feels like. [bleeped] Not really. That’s kind of like a dying breed right here. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, what does he think about Denver? And I’m going ask you what you think.

0:20Yeah. Um, he loves it out here. It’s like I don’t think he’s ever going to leave. like this is his [bleeped] I feel like a lot of people complain about how it’s changed with gentrification and stuff like that over the last like 20 years

0:30for sure. Um I’m probably the worst person to ask about that since I just moved here recently. Um I was curious what you think he thinks about it. You said he’s Denver native.

0:38Yeah. So he te technically Denver uh native but he lived like kind of like in Roxboro area. Okay. Um so it’s a little bit different.

0:47Okay. Um Okay. Cool. Yeah. Cool. So what do you think about Denver? You’ve been here 3 years now. You’re from LA. From Los Angeles originally.

0:55How do you compare the two? [bleeped] Uh, it’s really quiet out here. Like super [bleeped] quiet. Like dead city. Uh, but in a great way. Like you can like really get a lot of your [bleeped] done out here. I feel like

1:06Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People walk in out here. I didn’t not too many distractions. Yeah. That’s I think that’s what I like about it. Um, I really [bleeped] miss the ocean. There’s a pretty good sense of community, especially out here in Cap Hill. Uh, there’s some really really great people out here. This is one of my favorite parts of Denver. Oh, yeah. Is this city? Yeah. is like this this kind of area. Yeah. I live over on like 14th Corona, so kind of like local to this part.

1:28How you doing? Yeah. What’s What makes this like your favorite part? Oh my god. Yeah. Her name’s Ashley. She’s really sweet. She’s a sweet girl. Yeah. This is probably my favorite part cuz there’s just so much art around the city and there really is a huge sense of community here. Like I I know my neighbors and [bleeped] Like I feel like that’s not really like that out in like Lo or Rhino or any of those areas. Uh, Cap Hill is definitely my favorite. Um, yeah, I sell my art, my local art around here and stuff, too. I’ve gotten to know all the local businesses.

1:58Oh, you you make art? I do. Yeah, I’m an artist. Okay. Yeah, you’re an artist, huh? What kind of artist are you? Yeah, I do mainly illustration work. So, everything’s done pen on paper. Uh, yeah. Handdrawn stuff.

2:09Like, what what kind of stuff do you draw? Do you do stuff for clients? Like, do you do books? Like, what is like Yeah, so I make my own comic book. It’s called the Little [bleeped] Chronicles.

2:16Okay. Little Chronicles. Look at that. It’s pretty sick. A lot of my work sort of centers around like nudity and nature. Okay. Yeah. Pretty like weird style. A lot of people say that like it’s very different. They haven’t seen a style like that before. So, it’s very original to me.

2:31Oh, that’s cool though. I feel like I don’t know a lot of poly people, but I knew of a poly couple that was out here. I feel like there’s like a progressive scene in in out here.

2:38Absolutely. Yeah. No, I mean this this area for sure is like really great on that. I would say like downtown like like Rhino, that kind of area. It’s definitely more like tech bro centered,

2:48which I’m not [bleeped] into. So that’s why I chose to live out here for sure. That makes sense. What do you think of the tech bros?

2:54Um I I I hate them. Why is that? I don’t know. I just feel like they’re really boring. They don’t have [bleeped] [bleeped] to say about like anything. They’re just They’re just there [bleeped] raising my rent, [bleeped] raising my food costs. Those [bleeped]

3:11Okay. Yeah. Not a huge fan. Um that’s cool. More than anything, I think they’re just [bleeped] boring, and that’s what I don’t like about them.

3:19What do you think about AI? Not a fan. As a handdrawn artist myself, like not a [bleeped] fan. Um, I try to boycott all that [bleeped] So, recently the Denver Art Museum like uploaded something that was AI on one of their posters. There was like a huge boycotting there. Like, all the employees were pissed off. Like, we were all pissed off. So, we actually got them to remove it, that image. Uh, which is really cool. That is cool.

3:44Um, yeah. No, super. It’s nice to be responsive like that. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, I don’t [bleeped] use that [bleeped] so that’s cool. I use AI a lot. I’m not going to lie.

3:53That’s all right. A lot of people do, but not for art. I don’t really like AI music. Not for art. Hey, like if I can get it to wash my goddamn dishes, that’d be awesome.

4:00I feel like that’s the future. I That’s the future. That’s what people talk about. They say they can put people out of jobs though as well.

4:07Yes. But I feel like it’s like that, but like way more complicated things like mechanics gone. No. Yeah. Really? That’s [bleeped] Like I feel like they’re going to be like the equivalent of people who like operate the frosting machine at Wendy’s just like going like, “Oh yeah, your car’s done.”

4:19Yeah. Cartwashes. But what’s it called? Overall though, what do you think about the internet? You feel like the internet’s been good or bad for humanity? You feel like it makes it easier to get access to the truth?

4:28There was a point in time where I think the internet should have stopped um progressing. Like I think like early 2000, 2007 maybe. I think it just I think it just should have stopped right there. Like the second we got smartphones is the second we stopped [bleeped] like talking to each other.

4:46I think if that had never been invented if [bleeped] like that should have just never I think we would have been doing great honestly. Like um I’m actually thinking about getting rid of my phone and just getting like a a watch and I think a flip phone was what I was thinking too just for calls. But um

5:03you like anti, huh? Huh? You like anti- tech, huh? I love ’9s technology. I really do. Like I still have my old box TV at my house. I don’t have Wi-Fi. I only like watch VHS tapes and like DVDs. Like

5:17I don’t [bleeped] Wi-Fi at my house. Like you know I’m Yeah, I’m pretty much like off the grid when it comes to that. Um radio for music, that kind of [bleeped]

5:25Um I try to use as less of as least as I can. But as an artist, I got to have my Instagram and all that crap, too. So

5:33you want to shout out your Instagram? Uh sure. Yeah, I’m anime tits. Anime tits on Instagram. So, yeah, that’s me. And and shout us out some of the some of the films in your VHS collection.

5:44Oh, yeah. I got a lot of horror movies. Um, we got The Bird. Um, I have got a lot of like anime. So, I actually have some Sailor Moon on VHS. I’ve got the entire collection of the Dragon Ball Z saga, the Frieza saga. I’ve got that all lined up in a box set on VHS.

5:59I like that. That’s good, dude. It’s It’s pretty [bleeped] sick. Yeah. Just a lot of old school classic horror movies and stuff. Misery, you know, a lot of Stephen King.

6:07Yeah. Well, just some Office Space. My favorite [bleeped] movie. Okay. [bleeped] yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about DVDs? DVDs? I got the entire I got a lot of um what is that called? I got a lot of TV series. I got like early 2000s TV series. I got like Entourage, like all that [bleeped] you know?

6:26Oh, like that. Yeah. Yeah. It’s pretty cool. Entire season of King of the Hill on DVD. Okay. Just [bleeped] like that. I must have over like a hundred DVDs and VHS tapes. Like they’re all just in my house. You like comic books though, too? You read comics?

6:40Um, I used to read so many mangas when I was a kid. I’m not like haven’t been doing it as of recently, but I’ve been focusing more on like making my own stuff. So, the Little K Chronicles is like my life right now. I I don’t think I’ll stop making that. That’ll be like a lifelong project.

6:55Okay. Yeah. So, I haven’t done you justice. Like, so what is Lil Kung Chronicles about? Yeah. Yeah. So, it’s about two best friends. Uh, a girl who is always naked and she lives in the forest. Her best friend is a bird. Mhm.

7:07A little yellow bird that uh doesn’t speak. The only thing I can say is meow. Okay. Uh it’s actually based off my cat, who I call bird.

7:14Okay. Uh they’re best friends. They live in the forest together and they go on little adventures and stuff. It’s pretty cool. Yeah. Okay. And what prompted you to start this like the series?

7:24Like is there a plot? Like what’s the what’s is it like an ongoing thing or like a situational? Absolutely ongoing situational. So I make these like as like as I’m making it I’m coming up with the story like as I’m drawing. Um, a lot of it is like very like like the last one was my volume two and that one they travel to a small town that’s nearby the forest and you know Bird is sick so she’s got to go get medicine and

7:44there’s like a whole story scene there but it’s really like small stories uh just throughout it. So it’s not like big scaled arcs yet. Not big scaled yet but I’m thinking in a couple years maybe

7:55there’s still character development. Huge character development going on still. Yeah. Okay. Well that’s pretty sick. Thank you. Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah. Any any you have any anything you want to tell people under the age of nine?

8:06Under the age of nine. Oh um well you are kind, you are smart and you are worthy. Oh yeah. So there is that. Oh yeah.

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