Maceo
Host · Philadelphia
Founder of We Them Media. Brings the journalism program and the Denver/Philly fieldwork into the conversation.
Volume XIII — The Podcast
Let’s Talk About ETH: Around The World.
The conversation Maceo cohosts with BetterCallZaal (founder of The ZAO) and Ohnahji B (founder of Ohnahji University). One question runs through every episode: who actually benefits from the way this is being built?
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The Cohosts
BetterCallZaal
Cohost · The ZAO
Founder of The ZAO. Building tools that bring profit margin, data, and IP rights back to independent artists.
Ohnahji B
Cohost · Ohnahji University
Founder of Ohnahji University. A safe space for Black, Brown, and allied folks to learn and grow in emerging tech, running since 2022.
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Guests so far
Episode 01
Kenny
Bitcoin journalist · building poidh
Submitting to Bitcoin Magazine since the early days. Now building poidh (Pictures Or It Didn’t Happen), the bounty platform we use to crowdfund stories.
Episode 02
Swarthyhatter
Decentralizing journalism
Years in grassroots politics before crypto. Now actively building a stack for decentralizing journalism. The protocol-level work that actually makes a fourth estate possible.
Episode
Kiba
Zu City Japan · Nagano
Ten years in crypto, ex-Consensys, DeFi summer veteran. Now buying houses in Nagano with friends. Zu City Japan, a co-op for nomads who want a real place to land.
Episode
Cryptablo
Ghana
Building from Ghana. Episode notes coming.
Episode
Fidesio
Kenya
Came on as a guest, stayed on as catalogue editor for the network. Also building Hustle Yangu, telling the stories of African entrepreneurs.
Note · in progress
We’re six episodes in and still figuring out the show’s branding and how we promote it. Episode notes will get sharper as the season goes. Got a tape, a clip, or a take? Send it to the Discord.
The other show
2021 → present
We Them Niggas. The interview series that started this.
We Them Niggas is the original solo interview series. Maceo, one camera, one mic, one guest at a time. Eighteen episodes deep across Black Web3 builders, Caribbean diaspora identity, Black maternal health, decentralized science, and the founders of color shaping culture on and off chain. It’s where this whole network started, and it’s still running.
The name is the one the founder picked up alongside the wethemniggas.eth ENS that funded the first mic. It is its own thing, distinct from Let’s Talk About ETH above, and it stays in the lineup.
Watch the archive on YouTube · Read the long-form on Paragraph