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A discussion on religion, Mayweather, and more

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Three unidentified speakers debate religion, Black liberation and money. One calls religion “our handicap,” saying a person’s connection to God is personal and no one can prove whose faith is right. They agree Islam’s ninety-nine names of Allah, Christianity’s seventy-two angels and the Orishas all point back to one God, though factionalism still divides people. One argues religion should serve Black liberation theology, citing Exodus and Deuteronomy on stealing and killing a man.

The talk turns to money: they contrast Black men’s chains and cars with Bill Gates, who wears no jewelry at a boxing match, and describe Floyd Mayweather buying a new car instead of retrieving one from the airport and guarding money with twenty dogs. They ask what it means that he calls himself friends with Donald Trump.

They close with a story about a woman shopping for paintings whose son is next door getting his eyebrows shaped, which they say no Black father would allow.

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0:00AAbsalom, the deities, it’s a whole -- I’m breaking that down now because see, really, again, like I said last time I spoke here, I believe, um, religion is really our handicap, right? Because see, if you, if you pray to X, Y, or Z, right, but I don’t know who you pray to, right? I mean, you say I’m praying to something higher than myself, and that’s okay, but like, I can’t, I can’t interfere with that. There’s no way. That’s, that’s, that’s you in that creator’s channel. I can’t even get on that channel.

0:30BNobody can get in that channel. Right.

0:31AEven somebody in your faith can’t join your channel. Right. That’s your personal connection. So really, that should not be our divide. But a lot of times we spend a lot of time with the Hebrew Israelites. Right. You know, we believe this.

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0:45CRight.

0:46AAnd you believe that. And nobody has no proof of nothing. Nobody got no proof of nothing.

0:52CYou tell me.

0:53ANobody has no proof. They can say, well, you know, so-and-so did this in ’67. He said he got a vision. Hell no. Hell to the no. You, you, you bandwagoning off his vision.

1:07CThat’s right.

1:07AWhat’s your vision? You believe in what he believe. What do you believe? That’s right. I’m saying, what do you believe?

1:14CYou see, and we’ll see with religion, we’re going crazy. That’s, that’s, we’ll see. That’s why it’s, well, in our Islam, not Arab Islam, we say that we bear witness that no matter language barrier or landmass, that there’s but one God. Right.

1:30AI can, I can, I can agree with that.

1:31CNow that means that Ameray, Baba Luaye, Ilegba, Shango, Egun, Olorun, Obatala, Arumala, Ilegba, Oshun, Yemanja, Oye, Aya, Ori. All the Orishas. We already know the whole pantheon of Orishas still go back to Aladuwamare. He replicated himself in the feminine and the masculine, but it still represents one. In the Christian, you got the 72 angels, but they all represent that one God. In Islam, you have 99 names, attributes of Allah, but it still all represents that one God. We say Allah because that’s all I love, bro. No, I’m just playing. But we have gone crazy with the factionalism between it.

2:23AIf your religion can’t unshackle you from your oppressor, you’re in the wrong place.

2:30CAnd that’s why we need Black liberation If you got your religion, if you want to be a Christian, be a Black liberation theology Christian. That’s what needs to be in the culture. The culture right now, we’re in the struggle for liberation, freedom, justice, and equality, and peace. So everything has to be --

2:48AThat’s the religion, liberation.

2:49CThat’s right, liberation. So we need Black liberation theology, because liberation is the religion. And if we don’t have that, we can’t get nowhere. Don’t tell me about the Bible and you don’t want to --

2:59ALiberate it.

3:00CRight, you don’t want to liberate me. You don’t want to run the Exodus. You don’t want to run the Deuteronomy. You don’t want to tell me that the Bible says that he that stealeth the man and killeth the man, if he be found with that man in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. They don’t want to tell you about, oh, since you delighted in the shedding of our blood, so we shall give you your own blood to drink like water. They don’t want to give you revelation and say, well, you have come against my people, so church, I’m coming for you first, and I will cast down upon you with the sword of my lips. They don’t want to tell you that, because when they tell you that, then that means that we have to be held accountable.

3:33AAnd get active. Yeah, that one bad.

3:37CAnd, and that’s what I say. Our people know we’re hurting. They know something’s wrong. They know this government is wrong. They know we’re still enslaved. But accountability is where people are fearful of, because then it comes with structure, it comes with discipline, it comes with being critiqued, reprimanded, scorned, rejected, and refused. And right now we just want to be superficial. We can’t be worrying about who got the biggest TV, who got the latest Nike, who got the latest Uh, Jordan, who got the latest drop top, and we all here struggling. Come on, I thought it was each one teach one. I thought we was our brother’s keeper.

4:13AWell, who had to fight with their first coat on?

4:16CYou ain’t got this, man. This right here, meet Chinchilla and Tiger. The big chain on. Who got the biggest chain?

4:23ACome on, man. You see Bill Gates at the fights?

4:26CNope. No, I ain’t see not one piece of jewelry on Bill Gates.

4:29AAin’t got no jewelry.

4:30CI ain’t seen not one piece of jewelry.

4:32AWalmart guy, you see him at the fights?

4:33CNope.

4:34ANo, come on.

4:36CBut see, that’s the problem with us. We get flashy. Negro get a little bit of money and start showing his ass. This white man, he shows you his culture. They don’t, they don’t. You want to know why they don’t show you their jewelry?

4:51AWhat’s that?

4:51CWhat’s that boxer made all that money on?

4:53AWhat’s his name?

4:54BMayweather.

4:54CMayweather.

4:55BYeah, yeah, yeah.

4:55AJust think what he could do, man.

4:57CYeah, but see, we have to question. Yeah, we have to question.

5:01AYou know what he does though?

5:01CHe walk around with the big He go to the bank with his money, money and flash in the spot with homeboys.

5:06ATake that. He keeps the money like in his trunk, right?

5:09CWith 20 security dogs.

5:10BSo wasteful with the stuff I saw. Like I read one time he left the car at the airport. Instead of going to pick the car back up, he just went to buy a new car.

5:18ABut check that though, right? He’s no threat though. He’s no threat. He is no threat.

5:22CHe got to be really rich, man. Really stupid.

5:28ABut he, he would say, oh, me and Trump are buddies.

5:32CNo, Trump is a billionaire.

5:35AIn there, what Trump can do like that and blow your stuff down. You know what I’m saying? So it’s like it’s a fall. It’s a fall system of Trump. Man, I don’t know. I can call Trump out. I know Trump. Yeah, I know Trump. Trump see with that damn slave, right? Trump Trump said they ain’t direct. Said he bring boxing. And what does that?

5:53CWhat does that mean that he can call Trump up?

5:55AYeah, yeah. What does that mean?

5:56CThat he close to the white man?

5:58ASlave master.

6:00CI the coaster master. Who cares what’s going on? I could I could go to the. I could get on the front porch and you be on the field. I know.

6:07ASo check this out, right? A lady came in here about half an hour ago. Am I telling you the story a while ago?

6:11BYeah, yeah.

6:12AAnd she was looking at some paintings, and the brother man asked, hey, you know, you need any help? She said, no, no, I’m just saying, you know, my son is -- my son is in the salon getting his eyebrows done. This is a Black mother with her son got dreads, right? But the sides are cut off and it’s like kind of like funky. Oh, but she’s saying to another Black man That my son is next door getting his eyebrows shaped. And I’m trying to figure out, I feel my mom, you know, we go shopping, you know what I’m saying? You get supermarket, you know, you know, wherever, you know, you with your mother, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever. I never heard of no being with your mom and getting your eyebrows shaped. I can see she know getting a haircut, you know what I mean? Getting his locks. Eyebrows. I like them.

7:00CThings must be thick as bandages.

7:02AThere can’t be a black man in that house. It can’t be. Picture, picture if you had a wife or whatever and you say, you know, um, we had his eyebrows shaved. I would say, nah, nah, that can’t be.

7:18CI can’t, I can’t hear no black father saying that.

7:20ANah.

7:21CUh, uh, take little Roger to the salon so he can get his eyebrows done.

7:25ASalon? The hell? How about barbershop?

7:29CYour eyebrows done?

7:29AThat was the worst slot of my life.

7:31CWhat? And if you need to do something since eyebrows, why the hell?

7:35AYeah.

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