0:40BI want to be careful.
0:45AI don’t want to say nothing that’s too -- but I just feel like it’s the --
0:49CI mean, I understand what you’re saying.
0:51AIt’s a template. I feel we all should follow, not even just the battle aspect. That’s what a lot of people see, you know, of course revolution is bloody, but even as their society progressed afterwards, a lot of people don’t -- well, you had 2 sides to it. You had basically a kingdomship, which a Marnaite, you assume, had a royal family, kings and queens, and on the other side you still had basically the President. Yeah, like a traditional, traditional republic still in Haiti. And then, you know, not even looking at the Dominican Republic, but I mean, that’s a whole separate situation. But I mean, that’s, that’s it right there, because I mean, they reunited on -- I feel it took spirituality, of course, um the conditions is what inspired such. I don’t -- a lot of people say, well, why did it happen there and it didn’t happen here? I feel like --
1:52CBut we fought here and stuff.
1:54AWe did, but I feel like the landmass in a sense played a very --
1:58CPeople forget that because not only Haiti, the Caribbean as a whole, it’s very, um, it’s got mountains and hills, so you could use that to your advantage. You run up in there and you can hide. And just like in Jamaica with the Maroons, right? Same strategy.
2:10AUse the same strategy. So You don’t have that so much over here. Plus it’s pretty big.
2:15CAnd they were in the majority too over here. Like, you know, collective pockets of small minorities.
2:21BSure.
2:22CI don’t know, it’s just a different -- I mean, it is the template because, um, on Saturday I did an interview with a sister in Togo that’s involved in the fighting after dictatorship there, and much of what she wants to do with Togo is in the tradition of Haiti in terms of, uh, Making Togo a safe haven for all African people. Because she told me that one thing that she would like to do is to do like Haiti and give, uh, Togolese citizenship to every person of African descent that wants to come back home.
2:49AI would like that though, that’s nice. Although I still feel like we as Black people need to take this as well, but that’s just another endgame.
2:58CIf you can have dual citizenship like that, you know, very true, very true. So yeah, they’re fighting a dictatorship there, but that’s So I mean, why I think the Haitian Revolution is significant is not just for the people of Haiti, but for all African people. Because like you said, that’s a template for a lot of our struggles, right? And even, I mean, the struggle here after the Haitians won their freedom, a lot of enslaved Africans are looking at that like, well, we could do the same thing.
3:21ADo the same.
3:21CThat’s why slave masters, they did everything they could to prevent information from Haiti, right, you know, coming into the United States.
3:27BLocking them in from reading, right?
3:28CI mean, a lot of us, you know, couldn’t necessarily even read, but They went to the point of any African from the French Caribbean, they didn’t want them coming into the United States because even the Africans that couldn’t read here, they would interact with those people, right? They’ll tell them, well, hey, this has been happening in Haiti, right? So they just want to cut them off completely from that information.
3:47AI mean, I mean, well, even when I say it’s a wonderful thing, I feel like, all right, This is how I’m gonna compare it to, uh, just me and my eye that I’ve always had this understanding, right? You go to school, boom, boom, boom, you get white supremacy history 101. Oh, and I mean, even just fast forward it to the American Revolution, we heard that these certain people didn’t want to pay tax, so they split from wherever they came from, you know, and then they came over here and miraculously found some land that was just to their abundance, and they had everything they needed. And they settled the colony little by little. They grew like a virus over the whole continent. But anyway, starting with the 13, the established colonies already made their states, killed off the native people, and then they claimed years later they had to fight the British to keep hold of their so-called 13 states, which eventually grew to 50. And, uh, I even have issues with that. I think it’s a lie, honestly. That makes sense. The American Revolution, where they say that they got their independence, because America still has the answer to the crown of the United Kingdom, and still you have the bankers in there.
5:07CIt wasn’t really a fight for independence, right? Even when you talk about the taxation, right, that was really the main issue, was the problem with taxation. And even then, the funny thing about that is the reason why the Americans were being taxed, right, because the British were spending money to defend the American colonies from the Native Americans. So they were actually benefiting from being a British colony, but they just didn’t want to pay the taxes, right? They went along with that, but it wasn’t necessarily an issue with independence because they got the independence and they continued a lot of the same policies.
5:34AExactly. So, and see, that’s why I still like -- it’s like, what is really independence in their, in their eye? Because I mean, how can they be independent but -- I see what we’re I mean, they can mean -- I mean, I understand the presidency and you got a vice president, but look at it in other places. You have -- are you got a king and queen? You got a prime minister. America doesn’t have a prime minister. We still, like I said, everything we do, we’re still answering over there. You got NATO, the North Atlantic, uh, tribes organization. You got the EU, you got the United Nations. Everybody’s still clustered together. It’s still the same thing it always was. It’s still the Holy Roman Empire in my eye. It’s just they do it with a new name and try to act like it’s something new.
6:22CI think you have to look at it too, it’s like whenever 2 groups of Europeans are fighting with each other, it’s always a fight to see who’s going to be that dominant group. It’s never, you know, a fight to end European domination. Even when you look at the World Wars, World War I was about 2 sides of Europeans fighting each other. After World War II, they both destroyed each other, and who took over? United States and Soviet Union. And then they had that fight to see who gets to --
6:46ARight, sign over control.
6:48BOkay, so you’re talking about control. Each independent nation, supposedly independent nation, wants to have their own control, right? Controlled by the people that live there and governed by the people that’s, that’s there, rather than having to be dependent to some other country across the pond, so to speak, right? So in a way, it is that independent, but it’s also you’re not breaking that chain of group because all Caucasian nations are one group, period. And this is what he’s saying, is that who can be top dog? That’s what Hitler wanted. He wanted to be top dog. You see what he’s saying?
7:31AHe was the template for white supremacy.
7:33BAbsolutely.
7:34AAbsolutely.
7:36BBut he’s not been the only one.
7:38CRight.
7:38ATrue.
7:38CBecause the thing is, when you look at Hitler’s work, another thing that I speak about in schools here, you never actually have to read Hitler’s work. Hitler didn’t just come out of nowhere. There was a lot of people that influenced Hitler because all these ideologies, they were there already. The Aryan supremacy, that was already there in Europe. Even antisemitism, that was already there in Europe. So everything that made Hitler was already in existence in Europe. I mean, even look at -- you can look at, um, the KKK, which was organized before, uh, Hitler. Who are some of the people that they’re targeting? Not only African Americans, they used to lynch Jews as well. So nothing about Hitler or the Nazis were unique. All of that was in existence beforehand. Even on the concentration camps that, you know, they teach us about in schools, they never teach us that the British had their own concentration camps in Kenya and they used to torture, horribly torture the Kenyans there. So Hitler didn’t do anything that no other European power before him or even after him hasn’t done.
8:31AI mean, Leopold before Hitler used to get up in Belgium. I mean, it was neat. I mean, of course, with colonialism, Cecil Rhodes and everybody that came through, I mean, they was pounding. I mean, they was killing up millions upon millions upon African people. I mean, I mean, like I say, to me that’s the -- not just because I’m Black, but that was the worst Holocaust of all. I mean, killing millions upon millions.
8:57CI mean, just the slave trade alone, the estimates range from like 50 million to 100 million. You’re just talking the slave trade, you’re not even getting to, you know, Belgium colonialism and all that kind of stuff. Because in the Congo alone, the estimates for how much the Belgians killed were like 50 million. Exactly. And that’s just one African African country.
9:16ABecause when you go to Zimbabwe, well, what they call Rhodesia, yeah, Cecil Rhodes killed millions upon millions.
9:24CWent in there with machine guns and was just mowing it up.
9:26AHe’s praised. He’s the hero.
9:30CThis stuff is called shaming.
9:32BShaming. That, that in Eurocentric culture, those are the heroes. I mean, it’s no different going even back to the Revolutionary War here. enemy. George Washington smited his enemy with his troop. The difference is if we try to do that as Black people, then we are, we’re radicals.
9:51ARight.
9:52BBlack Panthers was radicals.
9:54ARight.
9:54BAnd they wasn’t even killing anybody. But that’s the way the society is going to look at things based on who’s in control. And when you don’t have that control, you then are subject to the rules and regulations that the person or people that’s in control is going to put up, it’s going to have set up for you to follow. But we know that that’s not, that’s not good for us. It will never have been good for us, and it will never be good for us. So I can, I can understand where they’re coming from, and because I certainly understand that there is no difference between Europe, any country in Europe, in America.
10:37ARight, it’s one and the same.
10:39BSame people. They believe in the same thing, and they want to all want to control. They want the world to look at them as being -- and whatever they -- that’s the way they push things, as they are the all-knowing people, the most intelligent on the planet. And we know that that’s not true.
10:59ANot at all.
11:00BThat’s what we follow, and they always want us to look at them as the majority. I mean, they’re not the majority.
11:08AThey’re less than 10%.
11:11BBut you got this minority that’s controlling almost, if not controlling every country, at least they got their foot in the door. Foot been actually pushed out of the African countries, but they’re still there.
11:26ARight, exactly.
11:27BThey’re still present and they’re still somewhat causing, well, they’re definitely causing a whole lot of disruption. And like he was talking really before he died, he was talking about Congo. I mean, you know, the French is strong there and they’re never going to leave there. What really should happen, same in all of those countries, and it should happen also in South Africa, It doesn’t matter whether those people, the Dutch, came in and colonized. It doesn’t matter whether they got the land. They all need to be gone.
11:57AThey gotta go, Billy.
11:59BThey need to go back to the rightful people of that country, and they need to be teaching history of their country, not Eurocentric history. Because what good does it do those people in those, in those countries in Africa to know -- why would they want to know European history? It’s not helping them learn anything about their ancestors.
12:20AInstead, it’s helping the other side.
12:21BRight.
12:22AThrough indoctrination.
12:23CAbsolutely.
12:24BSo that chain has to be broken. That chain of thought has to be broken. I don’t know who’s going to do it because Black people just don’t seem to, from what I’m seeing and what I’ve read, people, most, they are some. There’s always somebody. But as a whole, Black people on this planet, We seem to be unconscious today.
12:44AScared, I feel. Scared as shit.
12:50BBut that’s why that example with Haiti is a good example. They was not afraid.
12:57CThey --
12:57Band even though they still teaching French history, I’m sure.
13:01CYeah, I mean, that’s the issue too. The Haiti, when people ask, well, why is Haiti so poor? It’s because of that revolution. everything they could to crush --
13:11ASanctions.
13:11CYes, I mean sanctions, just like colonial indoctrination. So we’re to the point where, yeah, a lot of Haitians really embrace, you know, France and think that they’re French. I remember reading one Haitian poet who even said Haiti is the Black France. That’s why the psychological warfare that Europeans put on us, that’s really the most critical thing to address, because if you can’t free the minds of African people, that’s it.
13:35AThat’s the biggest one.
