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A caffeine.ai walkthrough with Yvonne-Anne Pignolet of DFINITY

This is Kamal’s video, shown here with his permission. Watch it on his channel, where the comments are.

Kamal Hubbard asks Yvonne-Anne Pignolet of DFINITY to walk through Caffeine AI, a tool that writes an app from a plain description. Kamal requests “a simple escrow system that will escrow either Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, USDC, or USDT,” and they watch it generate backend code, then frontend code, live.

Pignolet says getting started needs nothing but an idea and a browser: “All you need is an idea for an app that you want to build and a browser.” The tool is not yet open to everyone; people can join a waiting list at caffeine.ai, or browse an App Market of apps other people have already built and improve on one of those instead.

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0:18Kamal HubbardOkay, can you tell me who you are again and what we’re about to do?

0:22Yvonne-Anne PignoletHello, my name is Yvonne-Anne. I work for DFINITY, and we are now gonna create a project together. But you need to remind me what exactly exactly you wanted to build?

0:33Kamal HubbardI would like to build a simple escrow system that will escrow either Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, USDC, or USDT.

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0:44Yvonne-Anne PignoletSo let’s start with a subset of that. And I, I just typed in some keywords. Let’s see if AI understood me.

0:58Kamal HubbardOkay.

1:05Yvonne-Anne PignoletIt’s asking me some questions to clarify if it understood correctly what we want to build. What do you reckon? Is that more or less what you want?

1:15Kamal HubbardLet me take a closer look here.

1:18Yvonne-Anne PignoletSo --

1:20Kamal HubbardYes, that’s what we want. Okay. Okay.

1:30Yvonne-Anne PignoletWell, what the AI will do next, it will create a spec. based on what we told it earlier. And then based on this spec, it will create code. So it’s starting with writing backend code. And then once it has done that -- so see, it’s writing quite a lot of code. Let’s hope it’s safe code. And once it’s done with the backend, it will start with the frontend. So, we’ll take a couple of minutes to write all the code because it’s not a super simple app. But imagine you’d have to type all this by yourself. It would take a few hours, right?

2:24Kamal HubbardI’m not a coder, so I don’t know the ins and outs.

2:28Yvonne-Anne PignoletThen it would take forever.

2:30Kamal HubbardRight, right.

2:31Yvonne-Anne PignoletOkay, so now it’s still working on generating the frontend code.

2:37Kamal HubbardSo I think people have a good idea of what’s happening right now. Can you tell people how they can find Caffeine, how to get started, and what they need? Do they need ICP to get started? Do they need Bitcoin? Do they need a Visa, MasterCard, or anything like that?

2:57Yvonne-Anne PignoletSo to get started, the good news is you don’t need anything. All you need is an idea for an app that you want to build and a browser. And I think everyone has a browser either on their phone or on their laptop. And then you just go to caffeine.ai. And at the moment, it’s not open for everyone. So you need to sign up to be on the waiting list. And then hopefully you will get access and then you can start creating your own apps. And if you don’t have an idea for an app, what you can also do is you can go to the App Market and look at what other people have built. And if you think, oh, that’s a neat idea, I want to have that, you can select it and improve on it.

3:40Kamal HubbardAwesome, awesome. So we’re gonna wait till hopefully something gets generated, but I really appreciate You giving us this initial walkthrough on what caffeine AI is and how it works. Ah, cool, cool. This is awesome.

4:15Yvonne-Anne PignoletYeah, yeah.

4:17Kamal HubbardWell, we can’t. Why don’t we use your Bitcoin? Just kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. All right, Yvonne-Anne. Thank you so much. And for everybody out there, don’t just make it a good day. Make it a great day with crypto. Crypto with Kamal here at Caffeine AI.

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