[0:00] It's nice to meet you, man. I'm Maceo. What's your name? My name is Eric Christophobia. Hell yeah. And where are you from? I'm from Shreveport, Louisiana. That's where I was born on January 6th, 9.30 in the morning, 7 pounds, 3 ounces, 21 inches long. My, uh, what's up? We're having it out. After all, these are repeats. You know, it's meta. It's like you guys are connecting in the Lord. I'm always up here spreading the good news. I interviewed him earlier. That's cool. It's cool because it connects. Fucking me. You know, I'm 56 years old right now. And my mom died when she was 57. My, her uncle, my, or my uncle, or her brother,

[1:08] He had two heart attacks. I dig this, his arm felt fucked up and he wanted to know if he should take one of those fucking pills. Right? And they said that they were old and to come in to the pharmacist to get, you know, a new prescription.

[1:39] I, motherfuckers, dropped dead with it underneath his tongue. Really? Yeah. When they did the autopsy, they found the pill underneath there. He should have took the one at the house. I would have. Yeah. Whether it was old or not. Yeah, yeah, at least he would have made it, right? It would have got inside and done something. Well, you know, but no, the dude was talking to his doctor, and they brought him a prescription, and he put it under the top and the motherfucker fell dead. Right there, the blood of his 16-year-old daughter.

[2:16] That's terrible. You just spent your whole life grieving something like that.

[2:26] Here's the craziest thing.

[2:35] I come home from the state wrestling championship. You know, I didn't win, but, you know, I did good. and I come home and I was happy about it, and my grandma's dead, you know, it was the first time I was ever a Paul Bearer, but nobody's died since then. I haven't been a Paul Bearer before and I don't like it. Yeah, I can get that. Your grandma was important to you. Well, I was like 11 years old, and my dad said, son, you know, he said, you're getting to that age where you don't have to cry over the stuff at the moment, all right? And I was their palm bear. I was the last one up there to see her.

[3:37] And I looked down, and I knew I was never going to see this woman again. And I started crying, and I felt good. And I've been crying ever since. I've always let my feelings out and been one, you know? Life's too short to be fuckin' around and actin' stupid, and if you hate and you wanna fight, stick your head up your ass and hate fightin' for air, you know, and die trying, you son of a bitch, you know. We Don't Need Hate In This World Anymore You Know It's The Human Race We All Need To Hold Our Hands And Cross The Line Together You Know Fuck All This Bullshit You Know My Family Immigrated To America In 1932 Sunnyphobia And My Grandfather Pops

[5:01] came over here in 1932, and my dad was the first phobian born on United States soil in Iowa.

[5:12] My whole family was born in Iowa, except for me. We was living in Texas, Kansas, and it was the 70s, and they wasn't really sure when I was going to be born. But my mom and my dad went to Shreveport,

[5:39] I'd rather be that than a Texan. I could have been born in Shreveport, Louisiana, or, you know, I'd rather be that than a Texan, you know, one of those fucking things, you know, I like that part of it. I've always had fun in my life and like I said, man, if my day starts getting fucked up and it's not going good, man, change that shit, you know, always stay focused on the positive and what can be better foreseeable in the future and always play it forward.

[6:43] If you could, what are some things you really respected about your grandmother?

[6:51] It's Women's History Month after all. She could hack a loogie better than my dad could, all right? Now, we pulled out, we was going to TGNY, all right? and she stopped her 1978 fucking Cadillac and it was a convertible, Elder Ross, and poof and she had the loogie out, you know, and it smacked on the ground, you know, and she had the big Elton John sunglass motherfucking things on, you know, all right, and we was taking off from there, all right, but, Oh man, I loved it. My grandma, all right? My mom said, your granny's here, she's going to take you to TTL, all right? This bitch stepped in the middle of my foot, all right? And she weighed like about 320 pounds and she was wearing a high heel and I was about five years old and I was like, oh, granny, you got me by the foot, you know?

[8:03] and I mean she had my, you know, and here's the thing with my dad, he'd be quit crying or you're gonna have a reason to do it, and you know, and when we get somewhere, he'd turn to me and he'd be like, you better be on your best fucking behavior, you know, I mean, you know, you know,

[8:43] That's intense. But it was cool. I remember I was like four and a half, five years old. We was going down to my grandfather's fucking Earl Heights.

[9:00] And it was like 2.30, 3 o'clock in the morning. And my dad pulled me from the backseat and stuck me on his lap. and he gave me the steering wheel and he said this is the cruise control. He said you push this button to go faster and this one to go slower. But it didn't matter each time that I pushed it he woke up automatically. But we're doing like 75, 90 miles an hour down You Know, and I'm a four-year-old kid sitting on my dad's lap, you know, driving the car following the one in front of me. Is it four? It was a Lincoln Mark IV. It was a red rocket. My dad's 1974 Lincoln Mark IV. It was red and it had a white top on it. It wasn't a convertible.

[10:10] but it had a, you know, it was bad, we called it the Red Rocket, that motherfucker get it. But my mom had a 1978, it was Canary Yellow Mark V, and alright, you could slope out there at 120 miles an hour and stop on the gas and this bitch appeared down, all right? Yeah, you know, all right? The only other thing that was better than that was my caprice, all right? But you were saying you were four years old in your dad's lap driving the car? Yeah. Oh, well, we was going down there. it was my grandpa Jack's, this is the only one I wasn't a paul pair for, thank God I was only four.

[11:20] Something to brag about, huh?

[11:26] But no, I mean, I'll tell you what though, that helped me out immensely when I cried at my grandma's funeral. I think crying is important. No, uh, no, look, um, it made, it gave me relief, and it gave me closure, and, you know, um, and I got to defy my dad a little bit, you know, because he was like, don't cry, you know, and I was crying like a bitch. Sometimes he got to.

[12:07] You know what, getting it out. It's just being a human being. No getting it out and getting it over with. Hey brother, you got a smoke, you bummer? He said Naveed. Ah, but yeah, like this. Oh man, I've never been ashamed to cry in my life. Been what? Never been ashamed to cry. Hell yeah. You know, I never, I'll cry, you know? because, you know, I get it out, it's over with, it's done, you know, and I got to worry about it in the morning. It's no longer in my life, you know. That's the beauty of dealing with your emotions when you have them, is letting them out and letting go. That way you

[13:08] don't have them strangling onto you or holding you down or, you know, some other you let them go. Suppressed feelings will divide a family. Way more. What did you say? Yeah, for sure. Huh? We're doing okay. He said he has a roach if you want to smoke it. Oh, no, I'm doing alright right now. I'll tell you, I just got high earlier. You know, I'm really, you know, really fucking high. You know, I just walked down from the top. This is where I usually fly. I've been here since, like, 2000, and, uh, yeah, all right. A guy got mad at me the other day because I didn't have a sign. He was like, where's your fucking time?

[14:25] Somebody driving by? No, a guy that was on the fly. No, no, not this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, uh, he was like, where's your sign? I said, oh, God, I had no fucking sign, man. I said, the only goddamn time I've ever been missing was when I was in prison. You Know, from August 2021, Friday to 13th, which is also my diet date for methamphetamines and being on the feed. I had my food, and I was wanting to eat some ice cream, and I didn't to have my, my debit card. And so I put the ice cream and the spoon down and I started walking out.

[15:29] And an off-duty cop hooked me in a rear naked choke, right? And this was before they killed that guy, choked him out, shot him up with the fucking, you know, ketamine, you know, and the riots and all that shit. That was here in Denver? Yeah, yeah. There's only one guy that just didn't understand. I started wrestling when I could call. My brother's high school wrestling coach had a son my age and he started us wrestling together and he would use us as models for his kids in class. you know how to do it you know they teach a bidding combination yeah yeah I mean you know uh oh uh Harry uh God I can't believe I can't think of his name right now um it was my brother's uh uh high school wrestling coach uh I maybe this is why he's sitting smoking grass because I'm drawing a blank that's okay you just keep talking and it comes back that's how it works

[17:02] You got to know the science of the grass I know this much Yeah We had to change my My kindergarten class To the second class So that I could go To wrestling practice After school You know Coach Holmes Coach Homer

[17:31] But yeah

[17:35] So for this thing that I'm doing for my video series. I haven't even told you what I'm here for, right? Oh, well, I told you. They said you should go to film it. I love it. I love it. It's awesome to meet you, dude. Well, thank you, man. It's awesome. You know, you seem like a genuine, sturdy, well-put-together guy that knows his shit. I haven't said too much. He's got his ducks in a row. I'm trying to get him in a row. I feel like I'm trying to herd him a little bit right now. I feel like I pick up too many ducks sometimes.

[18:09] So my question, this thing I'm doing is for poidh and We Them Media. Every week we ask a question and we're asking people around the world to go out and shoot videos like this. And so our goal is to be able to ask a question and have people around the world give us answers on video. And so our question this week is what's the most important global issue today?

[18:37] Talk about it, the state is yours, man, there's enough hate in the world, fuck that shit, you know, it's crazy, when I was younger, you know, I'd just get mad pissed off and it happened, you know, and I was a folk kid, so that was the way it was supposed to happen. You're a what? A phobian, you know. What's that? That's who I am, Eric Christian phobia. Okay. Oh, your last name. Oh, I mean, oh, my brother was nine and a half years older than me, and he kicked everybody's ass, you know. Okay. But keep going. You're talking about global harmony.

[19:37] We need to stop hating around the world. Hold on. You know, look, it's hard sometimes to forgive somebody when you've been wrong. Yeah. But it also helps end it and gives it closure and helps you move on. Like I said, it's better to just fucking have it right then and there, you know, especially as far as your emotions

[20:19] But always try to be honest and open with yourself and let yourself be free and embrace what you're feeling in the moment, you know? Yeah. You know? I mean, you know, let that part of it swing free on the end, you know? I like that part of it.

[20:51] Thanks man. You're welcome. What the hell is the answer? Environmental harmony, yes. You know, when I say environmental harmony, I don't just mean like, oh, there's a harmony and it's environmental. I mean it all over the world. I mean, for the president, for Vladimir, you know, for everybody around the world to harmonize and to try to bring together a state of harmony. You know, it's easy to be pissed off. You know, it is. That was how you got to use all these muscles and all that shit. But no, you can be pissed off because of C-tunes to it all the goddamn time, you know. I, here's your number one question. When you see somebody pissed off, what are you mad about?

[22:16] No, I did see you like seven out of nine times they can't answer the goddamn question. And if they can, they can't, you know, because they're high on them, they're high on feet, and they're fucked up, and they're mad, and they're pissed off, and they're stupid. No, that's why, you know, and this, I think it's going to be Friday the 13th again this year, my five year anniversary. Would you look, would you Google it? Yeah, sure. I mean, see if, if Friday the 13th in August is on, you know, if it's on. Okay, I'm opening up my Google Calendar, is it August? Yeah, the 13th.

[23:08] It's the 14th actually. Okay, well that's cool. But you were close though, you're like, you guys, that's pretty good. Like I wouldn't even like, I couldn't pick that shit out of any month. So, kudos.

[23:27] Well, thanks for letting me interview you. My last question is, if you could ask the whole world any question around, like, what would you ask them?

[23:38] What exactly is Wang Chung-ing? Are we doing it now? Does it really feel that good? And if we're not Wang Chung-ing now, how could you foresee us possibly doing it in the future? On some kind of Wang Chung-ing channel? What is Wang Chung-ing?

[24:02] You'll have to Google it, man. Okay, okay, cool. Thank you so much, man.
