[0:00] So, what's your name? Hi, I'm Shirley. Okay. Where are you in from? I'm from Estonia. Okay. And what are you working on? I'm working on a couple of things. So, I've been past eight plus years in blockchain and layer one protocol and ecosystem development. Currently, I'm with Logos. So, Logos is a privacy-preserving open-source local-first blockchain. Which provides privacy at the base layer and customizable privacy for normal privacy on the application level. And we also have a storage and messaging protocol. And then I have my own company, Satoshi Girl, which provides which provides advisory, outsourced development, and fundraising assistance.

[0:40] Okay. And how did you get started in this space? I got started in this space like 10 years ago when I was looking at investment vehicles that are low barrier. As I was like pretty low income, but I wanted to start my journey with something and I didn't feel like stocks is enough low barrier. So, I got involved in crypto by by Bitcoin and other altcoins. So, and then I moved to Zug, Switzerland, which is free crypto valley in Europe. And I started my career back in 2018. I've been ever since then 24/7 365 in the space, falling in love, gone through ups and downs, and yeah, I found

[1:20] my space. Okay. And you told me a little bit about Estonia earlier. Tell us a little bit about Estonia and its history as like a progressive technology space.

[1:29] Yeah, probably probably I could have some technology running in my blood cuz I am Our our country was the first to ever adopt private blockchains. It's like trusted permission blockchain at the government level early 2000s. So, we had e-voting, we have health care, and all kinds of government data and citizens data and processes backed by private blockchain. And we also e-residency. So, we have we have a very favorable tax jurisdiction with zero corporate tax. And by e-residency, we allow everyone to leverage on it by setting up a company remote. And um So, we're like very front We're like one of the frontrunners in adopting a

[2:13] digital innovation. We're We just launched a grant program for AI and privacy-enhancing technologies to uh adopt these technologies even further at the public sector level. Well, yeah.

[2:26] Help me. I'm getting beaten up. You're not the only one that's been hit since you were sitting here. I um What do you think most people outside the blockchain space or tech space don't get about the moment we're in?

[2:38] What do they don't get? Um Well, still, I think they don't get we're still early on. Like uh there's still time to enter the space, uh pick up all the fast learnings, and uh start building, and uh and right away, because I mean, we're we will see like trillion-dollar markets soon in RWA and um traditional finance entering. But we're still early, so it's People think it's too late, cuz they see the price of Bitcoin and think like there's no chance they're going to get in, but that's still early.

[3:18] It's still early. I love that. I love that. And so, what is ETH? Sorry? What is ETH? What is ETH? ETH is a first programmable um digital asset and infrastructure. And uh I mean, what is ETH? ETH is is a pioneer in programmability in Web 3, so

[3:40] And what is Bitcoin? Bitcoin is the store of value and uh digital gold for me. And And yeah, so they're very different, but they're they're here to stay, and there will be something for everyone.

[3:55] Okay. Do you have a message for the builders? A message for builders like come and explore Logos if you're interested in local first, uh, decentralized infrastructure to claim to claim ownership and control over your how your data is being used or assets or freedom of speech. So, we're all about revitalizing the civil liberty and human rights through infrastructure, through technology, but we also have a social movement. So, come and explore on uh logos.co, and uh yeah, start building.

[4:25] So, Logos is the home for social movements? It's a technology stack and a social movement. So, we have over 200 destinations in the world where we have regular local meetups uh for people to detect local meaningful issues and solve it later with our help, like with fundraise help, um technology, uh building, um So, yeah, come and explore. We're open to expanding to the further to further locations, uh but we also for builders we also have a grant program RFPs. So, come and explore.

[4:57] Okay. Excellent. Excellent. Any other X's or something like that where we can find you or tag you when we post it? Yeah, so local um we have Logos Network on X, and just Logos as well. So,

[5:09] That's cool. That's cool. Don't worry. Don't worry. All right, thank you.
