{"built":"2026-09-05","videos":[{"id":"mszXmKxwvSQ","slug":"durgadas-on-coordinating-people-and-capital","title":"Durgadas, on coordinating people and capital","place":"New York","who":"Maceo","paras":[[null,"People start off with this this intent that they want to make something which is different and then use exactly the same structural language and approaches and everything that constructed an unequal system to begin with. The idea is that this new structure would then run on that so that it would gradually subvert the old structural assumptions that they were making and would gradually replace them with new ways."],[null,"People that love to be decentralized. You know what I'm saying? For y'all and also rest in peace Plum. That's my Shih Tzu. She died about 10 years ago. Appreciate you. Yeah. You have questions, right? Like, what did he just drink? Why is he honoring his late Shih Tzu at a basketball game? Who are the people even being decentralized? What does that mean? Well, that's why I'm here. Let's find out. New York doesn't ease you in. You step out and you're already in it. A few million strangers all going somewhere all at once."],[null,"I grew up a couple hours away, close enough that New York was never some distant idea. It was a city you took the bus to or train to. A place I get to go and see my friends from high school and college. That's the thing about this city. It's stacked. Bodegas under glass towers. Old New York holding up the new one. And those new people have no idea what the old one even looked like. Oh, not you. Sorry. This time I linked up with some friends out here in the city. People already connected, already a part of what I came for, an Ethereum conference. The kind of room where we're negotiating where technology is going. But before any of that, you eat, you walk, you let the city remind you why people around the world dream of being here. And somewhere between these streets and the conference floor, that's where the story really starts. My name is Maceo Whatley and I'm the founder of We Them Media. Over the last 5 years, we've been researching how cryptocurrency and decentralized technology can empower everyday people around the world. And that's why I attended the Ethereum conference in New York City a couple weeks ago, to better understand and share with you all how Ethereum is working to show Wall Street it is ready to be the global settlement layer for financial systems. And we're here to show you what it means. Let's go."],[null,"So, what's up everybody? I'm here at ETHConf. Um, we're here in New York and what's your name? Durgadas. Very cool. And what are you working on? Well, I work at Octant on public goods grants funding and yeah, I've just designed some standards for grants funding and data ingestion. To answer the questions you're asking about, I myself got into crypto because I felt like it was a social justice movement, you know, in a governance and financial side of the picture. And so, you know, if you want your voice to be heard around, you know, your own kind of money and your own kind of way of dealing with things, crypto is the place to go for that. You know what I mean?"],[null,"Well, I mean, because you have the opportunity to have a voice, you know? There's an awful lot of places that you can go that will welcome the unique talents of individuals. I mean, I'm an autistic nearly savant-like person and somehow, you know, the many communities made space for me, you know what I mean? So, like, you know, I'm like this super hyperfocused, like, you know, like in movies, you know, they talk about equations flying around your head. That's how I experience the world. And that's frankly quite socially weird. And so I think there's an awful lot of people out there who would need a place to go and find community, and you know the most welcoming communities I've experienced aside from when I lived in spiritual communities have been in web3 and crypto. And you know, it's not for nothing that I showed up at 40 Acres and was welcomed there. It's a wonderful place. You participated in that as well. That's how I met you."],[null,"Absolutely. Which is really cool. Yeah. I mean, it is really cool. The reason why you have more of a voice is because there's more people that are willing to accept the specific kind of, like, you know, the more I know about people the more awesome they become in a way. And I think it can sometimes take time to figure that out. And so what people do with that gap between the time they realize you're really awesome and the time they don't really know you is they just go, uh, maybe you're weird, you know."],[null,"They discredit you instead of trying to dignify you. That's how I 100%: discredit you rather than dignify you. Exactly right. And so for me that distance is much smaller in web3 and crypto than in almost any other place, and so I feel much more at home here than I have in, and I actually was just commenting to the Octant CEO about, I've worked at Cisco, Microsoft, Apple, every big Silicon Valley company you can imagine. I worked in Seattle. I've worked for the biggest tech corporations in the world. And working at Octant is the best experience I've ever had from an employment standpoint. Yeah, and I mean I was literally hired because I wrote a think piece about what I would do if I won a bunch of money and wanted to give it away, because that's what Octant does. Everyone works at Octant. All of our job basically is giving away the staking rewards from the 100,000 ETH that we stake. And so what's better than that? Like how could you have a better mission first of all? And then the people are amazing. But I think that's a general symptom of a lot of people in web3 and crypto. And for me it's a tragedy that people don't actually know, because all they hear about is all the hacks and everything, and that's tragic to me because there's so many good people like yourself and different people in media. I mean, we had a creator round for people in the media. 451 applications. I had to do all 451 applications. Oh, yeah. Then decide 30 out of those. It was almost impossible."],[null,"By yourself. Wow. Well, I mean, we had other people helping with the round, but we were all trying to do multiple rounds. So, yeah. I mean that's what I'm saying: the media landscape, if you want to be in media, if you want to be in finance, if you want to start your own intentional community, a lot of DAOs are just intentional digital communities. And so, having lived in monasteries and lived in intentional communities on pieces of land, a lot of people are like, \"Hey, let's go do that.\" But I recognize the form of intentional community whether it's a digital one or an on-premise one. Right. It could be an urban one, it could be a rural one. It doesn't really matter."],[null,"Is it non-premise-ism? What is it, on premise? Yeah. Like digital versus, you know, being on the land. So if I'm on the land with people and I have to interact with them all the time. So on premise. Yeah. So you know, or if I'm now distributed all over the world. Also, if you just go look in the convention there, there's not more of an international, different groups of people, you know, every kind of, you want to talk about the global south showing up, you know, a lot of people from all over the world that look different from each other and everything, they all show up to events like this. And so there really isn't a more diverse set of people I could encounter anywhere. So all of those things combined, you know, from my perspective, there's diversity and unity and there's unity in diversity and they have to meet somewhere, and that place for me is the crypto and web3 world."],[null,"And I'm curious, I know that you spent a lot of time writing and thinking about identity in particular. Yeah. And I'm curious, how did that become a field of study or a topic, a subject matter of exploration? You know, I think that's probably one of the most interesting things about you that I found over time and I would say it's a reason I look at you as a remarkable white man in this space. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, I'm writing a book on decolonization from the perspective of my own discovery, and I'm actually inspired by James Baldwin's book, The Fire Next Time, and specifically he said, you know, we won't be free until they're free. And I think that it's a responsibility of anybody who has the kind of privilege that I've been born into to take that seriously and to understand themselves as a global citizen. And this also helps a lot: I worked in a native band for 8 years. So, you know, of all the people who have a reason to be afraid of people that look like me, it's those people I was working with. But the literal opposite of that, how it was so transformational to me to see how accepting and beautiful, and I was coming to fix their computers and they didn't care about that at all. They cared only about me."],[null,"It was unbelievable to me and I was just like, how can it be that there's a culture out there that exists that has more reason than anybody else to hate somebody in my incarnated form here. But then they literally healed me from the inside out and enabled me to talk about autism and come out in a way as a more authentic version of myself. Oh, so they were part of your transformation. They were, 100%. And so the distance between \"they have every right to feel this anger toward people that look like me\" and my actual experience of how they treated me and how they healed me from the inside was maybe the most extraordinary transformation I've ever undergone next to my own spiritual awakening. And to understand myself as like the universe, but from a social perspective it is really a remarkable thing and I will always be grateful to them, and frankly to people from the 40 Acres community and people like yourself for making room. And there's also, you know, part of the reason why I'm writing the book is because it's incumbent upon me to understand the narcissistic abuse patterns and everything that underly colonization across the world, and having experienced that myself. And also, you know, things like war set a pattern in place: my grandfather was traumatized from the Second World War, he's an autistic person, comes back, you know, and my dad and his relatives all had a really hard time because of the problems that he experienced, trauma from the war on top of his existence, you know, generations now back from that. And so people of color all over the world, they experience that same kind of inherited complex trauma situation."],[null,"Complex trauma, in some ways I think it gets into you genetically. And my mother experienced horrifying abuse at the same, you know, worse even than my dad. And so just understanding the role of how all the macroeconomic conditions, these abusive factors that happen, and then looking across and seeing somebody who might look different from you but they are the same fundamentally. One of my favorite sayings is that sometimes when you reach up to scratch your head you might accidentally poke yourself in the eye. And the thing about that is you're not going to yell at your finger for being bad because you consider it to be a part of yourself. And so if someone does an injustice upon you, the only real way out of that is to do the same thing, is to consider that person a part of yourself and accept them as identical to you or even exactly the same as you. So that's the magic key to kind of fixing all of that stuff."],[null,"I'm all over the place a little bit with that. You're killing the game. I was excited to talk to you. I said I was excited to talk, you know, I can sit down for two hours and talk to you, so don't worry. I think there's not a lot of people at this conference I would say that about, but I think you have a broad scope of expertise is how I'll say it, right? And I think that's really impressive. You know, one woman in Times Square today asked a question that I think is perfect for you. She said,"],[null,"are people in crypto, are they thinking about how this technology in the long term and how these rails are going to impact people outside the first world? And this white lady, Bridget, I said, wow, what makes you care about them? She said, we have to, right? And actually one of the works that I'm doing, I mean I have like 15 standards that I've created but one of them is the structural obligation standard. So the basic idea is that I took the idea of a role from the indigenous definition of it, which is if you have a role, really a role is more like a locus of activity which you are temporarily occupying. But the thing is that the definition of a role is it has obligations in six directions. So rather than to say I have an authority because I sit in this role, or I have an accountability to somebody else because I'm in this role and I have authority over other people, that's all frame-one thinking. And I invented an entire frame language analysis software and logic underneath it to be able to tell between the different ways you can think about language and the way you can speak about that. But the way we often speak about a role, it's using these reduced things like authority or governance or whatever. Governance implies a power over, right? Accountability implies an upward thing. But if you look at the indigenous approach to it, it's going in six different directions, right? And so that lady in Times Square was exactly right. So I built the Coordination Structural Integrity Suite, it's on GitHub, you can go there. This is a set of rules for a new organizational and coordinative activity thing that's not governance."],[null,"It's specifically not governance. It's a methodology for subverting all the things that happen. So there's asymmetry standards in there, there's consent standards in there, there's all this stuff that no one else is thinking of and creating. And so I'm trying to put all of that into these standards. So yeah, there's a website and a GitHub where you can download this. I feel like it's this next generation coordination thing, and I'm going to be building something called proof of coordination kind of in my spare time next to my regular job, you know."],[null,"Yeah. And you can tell it's like, coordination of grants funding is one thing, but then coordination between DAOs for example. DAOs as they existed are kind of a failed experiment now and the reason is because we forgot all kinds of aspects of that, and so I created a whole set of standards that would hopefully mean that we don't miss so many things next time. Right. I love that. So, and the whole thing with me is that I'm starting because I used to work at Gravity DAO and all I got to see was how people fail at all of this. So my starting point is failure modes. And then I was like, there are so many failure modes, and then I was like, can I find patterns in the failure modes, and then can I build solutions for those patterns of the failure modes? And so that's how I built this. So I started from the actual problem, not as some pie in the sky dude thinking about it, whatever."],[null,"What you actually saw wasn't working in the space. And I teach theory of change and strategy. And one of the most critical things about both of those things is you have to start with the problem. If you don't start with the problem, then you're not really fixing anything, right? And so it's really clear to me diagnostically how to make that work, because I now have done all this language analysis, using linguistic like neuro-linguistic programming principles and stuff. You can diagnose, I've got a tool that you can point at somebody's website. It'll read all of their content and then figure out if they're using language that's like top-down language or what kind of language they're using. So you can figure out where the person's coming from. The other part too is that even people who have good intentions, what they'll do is they'll have a good intention, but then the language that they're using constructs a separate reality from their intentions. And so what'll happen is a year later or two years later when they're having all these problems, their intentions and their structure are really far apart, and the structure wins every time. And so if you don't have an operating system for making sure you're navigating your intentions and your structure together, then that's why DAOs fail."],[null,"Yeah. Is because we didn't have that, and I've created a set of principles that allow that to happen. And where do we find that? I'll have to give you a URL for it after the interview maybe. So yeah, it's on GitHub, Coordination Structural Integrity Suite. There's a website with all kinds of AI prompts and everything. This is the expert. So pay attention. So yeah, that's what I've been doing for the last six months. So I created all this stuff. So yeah, 15 standards in 6 months."],[null,"That's remarkable. So yeah. It's been really great and I've got a lot of other byproducts from that too that should help. Okay. So I want to say a couple more things, right? So do you have a message for the builders? Yeah. I mean, it's just like what I just said, you know, make sure your intentions and the structure of the thing that you're building are in alignment. People start off with this intent that they want to make something which is different and then use exactly the same structural language and approaches and everything that constructed an unequal system to begin with. So, one of these examples for me is the network states idea, right? So you're going to put a techno king in place of a, you know what I mean? Like you're just replacing."],[null,"Techno king. I like that. You know, one master for another. And so the thing is, what I've noticed about a lot of the folks in this space is we all see the same problems. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. But because we've grown up in this abusive society, the thing that abuse does is it narrows your options and it narrows your thinking into a very specific lane of things. So the thing that you need to solve the problems is really outside of that."],[null,"And so taking the time to do that self-reflection and to understand who you are in relationship to that thing is the most necessary step to begin with. And so if I build a structure and then a person slots into it, the idea is that this new structure would then run on that so that it would gradually subvert the old structural assumptions that they were making and it would gradually replace them with new ways of thinking. And that's how we see conscious evolution, right? At scale."],[null,"That's exactly right. And so that's transformation at scale. That's right. Because not everybody's going to be able to be conscious about their inner life, right? And the whole thing is to not dissociate from that and really to unpack that, and even consider that we can do that in the first place. And the whole narcissistic abuse thing, what it does is it produces an outside-in thinker. So you're hollow internally, you don't know how to make assessments about anything. And it's not all 100% about therapy, but that helps. But if you don't know how to address yourself with respect to the wider universe and you don't know how to address yourself psychologically or in whatever healing ways, because we're all subject to abuse,"],[null,"absolutely, white, black, brown or otherwise, because that's the nature of the construct itself. That's the nature of the structure itself. And so if we want to fix that, we have to work inside out. We can't say I want to fix the structure outside. You're required to fix what's internal, and so as the designer of a structure I have a literal mandate, like I cannot do anything other than work inside out. And so that's encoded into everything that I do, all of my AI stuff. So I check everything to make sure it's all done inside out. And it's also important to understand how things fail and see the patterns in things that fail and be able to set up constructs, so you could have two individual things that together might have a failure, apart from each other have a failure mode, but when they're united together then they fix each other's failure modes. And even knowing how to discern that kind of thing is an enormously taxing internal diagnostic, spiritual, logical set of things, and those all stack on top of each other. And as I was doing this process I could even see the wisdom behind my own guru's work. My own guru used to have this saying: be good, do good, be kind. And the highest spiritual practice is to deal with suffering basically, or deal with the insult and deal with injury, right? And you suffer at the hands of that. And the reason why that's the highest is because there's a structure to it. The structure of that is you have to be good and do good, but then you also have to suffer disconfirmation. You have to suffer somebody logically contradicting you. You have to suffer somebody being mad at you. You have to suffer all of that stuff. And it's funny because when you're creating all this structure, it's an incredibly mental, logical, intellectual thing, but it's all grounded in this idea where I have to force myself to make sure that I'm inviting disconfirmation. I need to invite somebody to contradict me. I need to invite the thing that destroys my own idea. I have to constantly do that. It's like if you use a knife for too long, then you have to sharpen it against something."],[null,"Your ideas are unchallenged, they're really not. That's right. And so I have to constantly just beat the crap out of my own ideas, and that's the only way in which I can confidently step in front of somebody and say, I think you should use this for yourself, and have any kind of moral authority with which to do that. Even in my own conflict transformation stuff. So, let's say you and I are having a conflict, right? So, usually what'll happen is we'll both set up our positions over here and I'll be like, you know, that guy with his white hat, whatever the white hat, and so I'd be like, that guy thinks he's so good with the white hat, and I got my New York Yankees hat. And of course, the New York Yankees is the best thing that ever was. So there's no invitation for me to come across that without owning my part of it. So unless I go, you know, does it really matter? Like we both have hats on. They're both baseball caps. Are they really that different? You know, more style. And I have to own my. Yeah. Well, it's all custom made from Octant. You know, we had it custom made for us. But the point is you have to own your own stuff. It has to always be inside out. And so even if you are completely unwilling to compromise in any way, the best chance that I have to get that conflict dealt with is by owning my thing. And so everything that's healthy, everything that's good, it all has to work inside out. And the way the world's constructed now, especially now given what's happening in governments and all of that, and across the last 600 years of history, all of that has been a bunch of people who are unwilling to look inside of themselves and then basically force the rest of the world to conduct itself according to the fact that they are unwilling to learn anything about themselves. And so every movement that's ever made a difference against that kind of work has always been inside out. So Gandhi and, I mean, everybody."],[null,"So you know about Werner Erhard? I'm drawing a blank right now but I know a little about EST. Yeah. You have thoughts on EST or anything like that? Well, or Landmark as it is? Yeah, Landmark is the word. Yeah. I mean, those are like inside. Yeah, but it's not, though. I mean, it's like, we always talk about coded language, right? Landmark and a lot of those groups use coded language. So they'll talk like they're talking about a way to free you, but in fact those things just trap you. So it's like, well, and code switching, right, is a real thing. And so the thing is that the fact that we're often, and I as an autistic person have to code switch because I live in a very internal world. I have to kind of turn on a mode that's me being outside, right? And so that's an entire code switch and you know exactly what I'm talking about. The thing is typically my life's not going to be in danger if I don't appropriately code switch because I have a certain look, right? That's a very very difficult lesson for people who look different. But the thing is narcissistic abuse just uses a series of pretexts. The fundamental abusive structure itself is the same, right? It's just, you know, oh, you're tall, you're short, you're fat, you're thin, you're whatever. It's just a series of pretexts. So race is just another one. Autism, you know, my whole life I've suffered from that because why is that dude so weird? It's just a pretext. And so the first inclination is to harm, right? And we just need a pretext. And so we've built an entire culture out of this stuff. Hence, for me, it's a balancing act. It's the resistance to that kind of stuff and it's that together, right? And that's what America is. This resistance and this oppressive thing, that's the whole construct of the American experience really. So, I don't know if I answered your question somewhere in there, but I hope I did."],[null,"I mean, you did. You said it's coded language that says it's empowering people, it's actually trapping people. I mean, you went off. That's okay. My transformation has been largely facilitated by Landmark. I'm like a senior graduate of Landmark courses, which is why I was asking as someone who was speaking about transformation, right? And I know you're more familiar with lots of modalities, so I respect what you think on a lot of. No, but the thing is, here's the great thing about this: I left everything that I own and went and moved into a 4x6 shed without heat, electricity. I gave away all money in my bank account. They repossessed my car. I gave away my comic book collection. I literally gave away everything that I considered to be mine."],[null,"Yeah. And I learned enough about myself through the process of living at the monastery, from my teacher who was deeply flawed, deeply flawed as a person, to know that the way she was conducting herself was not correct, and then I had to leave. So it's okay. The thing is, did the process free you in some way? And if you've gone through that, no matter what their coded language and intention and subversive thing that they're trying to do to keep situations persist, right? If you transformed as a result of that, I'm just going to encourage you to try to see through into the deeper nature of that. If you want to walk through that one day, I'd be happy to. And I actually have the frame language analyzer. I could send you the website. You can run all of that language on their website and if they send you a PDF of something,"],[null,"just upload it and it'll tell you what the hidden pattern is in that. That'd be cool. I mean, I spent hundreds of hours in Landmark courses. I've been in communication courses. We Them Media is essentially a Landmark project. It's a project we're incubating. Sorry to be critical of them. You don't need to apologize for being critical. Every idea should be criticized until it's perfect and ready to share. Yeah. And like I say, the whole idea is whatever sets you free, to whatever degree it sets you free, then I can't really say something against it because it was appropriate for you at the time,"],[null,"right? Nothing else was. And I'm going to just encourage you to deepen that inquiry beyond those kinds of systems. So, yeah, there's a whole other universe waiting for you there. Oh, yeah. So whatever gets you there. I mean, the basic idea behind self-realization is, I don't know if you know this, I have tinnitus because I had a head injury. Right. So my ear rings all the time. Oh, wow. So I have a flap of skin that sits on my eardrum because I had a head injury and then bone came out of my inner ear and so the scar tissue just sits on my eardrum all the time. And for 30-some years now. There is a whole religion founded on tinnitus. Oh."],[null,"So there's a certain sect of Indian spirituality and this guy who was studying, he became kind of a big deal in the organization that he was in. He was meditating all the time and then he got tinnitus because of some problem with his ear, and so he started meditating on the tinnitus because he thought it's a cosmic sound, and he became self-realized through just focus on something that was really a medical issue that he did not know. And so you can do anything. You can just take this bean bag and you want to meditate on the bean bag. You realize the nature of reality because reality is all one and we're just experiencing ourselves as separate consciousnesses."],[null,"And so how do you think about the way consciousness works, like the space between the back of your head and your eyeballs? How do you think about that insane complex system? Yeah, well it's nonsense first of all and isn't true. And none of this is really happening at all. We're all just one consciousness experiencing itself in a subjective way, right? So the unified and the divided are actually encoded in our left and right hemispheres of our brain. So we have a right hemisphere of our brain which has never seen a difference of any kind ever. And we have a culture, all it does is validate the serial processor which is telling you that everything is different and broken up into small pieces. Right? The problem is that, and with many of the systems all the way through Western philosophy and everything, it is hardcoded to be limited to think that you can construct self-realization from components, but you can't, right? You have to see through into the mechanism of your right brain which has never seen any differences ever for your whole life. Every human being that's ever existed that has a bicameral brain and isn't missing one half of their brain"],[null,"actually has exactly the same hardware. So your right brain is like a parallel processor. Your left brain is like a serial processor. And combined together you get hatha yoga. Ha and tha. That's where that comes from. I didn't know that. Yeah, the left and right body and everything, and left and right hemisphere of the brain. I built my whole yoga studio around the ha and tha part. So that's where that comes from. So where you are now is, I think you've got an organization that has enabled you to construct a better reality. But the thing is that actual reality is not constructable. It has always existed. This transcends any, it's like the screen upon which you project any movie of any kind. You can change it to a better movie or a romantic movie or a movie where you come out on top all the time, or a movie where you don't come out on top all the time, but the screen remains the same no matter what thing is projected upon it. And so that's the actual reality that all of that movie that's being played on there is borrowing from."],[null,"And it is a reflection of, not the other way around. So yeah. So I'll leave you maybe with that. Oh, I appreciate that. I've been thinking a lot about the nature of reality the last couple months and just like, where did we come from? Where are we? What's even going on? You know, I close my eyes, I wake up every morning and I'm like, one day there was the first time that happened and it never stopped. Well, I mean the law of karma is a real thing and it governs everything, includes physics and all of that. All of the stuff that you see around you, all the physical world that exists and everything, exists because the universe is so inclusive that it needs to allow the divided to divide itself as infinitely as it wants to. But it also needs to provide another methodology for it to reunify with the actual reality of things. And that's not just your left and right brain. That's the nature of reality itself. Right? And so the point is that all of this division is allowed. But the further you chase that division, what you'll start to understand is, you know what? Those things are all suspiciously like each other and they're all reflections of some deeper thing. And because they divide infinitely, well, guess what? The actual infinity is being imitated by the replication of that infinitude of divisions. The same reason why we have a sex drive or a desire to reproduce is because we want to continue ourselves in the same way that that always continues. That timeless, infinite, unchanging reality continues. And so everything that you've ever seen is picking out a specific version of what exists in reality but is not manifest, and manifests itself by borrowing some portion of that reality. And so if you start to see it in that way, then some of the experiences and even trauma and things, all of that stuff kind of recedes a little bit and the volume of difficulties that we face as humans starts to go further and further away. I've had pre-birth experiences and I have some knowledge of my past lives. And so when you have that it tends to disabuse you of the idea that time is real, or distance, or this is real and that's not real, or that direction exists, or any of the other."],[null,"Relent to the organic concurrence of it all. Yeah. But it's also that there are no other directions because every direction you go, you are there also, right? So this person walking around, you might not be able to identify them, but they are literally you. Yeah. Right. They're just like the finger thing I was talking about before. They're one of the appendages of the consciousness experiencing itself as a finger or as an arm or a limb of a larger being. So that's why in Hindu iconography, or if you look at that Jimi Hendrix thing where he had a bunch of faces, that's taken from Hindu iconography."],[null,"Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah. So all the gods in Hindu thinking, the idea is that the multiplicity is designed to show you that all of these things are all one thing together. They manifest differently. They have different karmic loads, but they are all actually one thing. That's pretty remarkable. So yeah, all of the stuff I do in crypto and everything all comes from this place. So all right. I like to say booyah at the end of our content. Can we say booyah at the end?"],[null,"Okay. Booyah. Okay. 3 2 1. Booyah. Booyah. And where can we find you on socials? What's the tag? Yeah. I'm at Durgadas G on X. So it's on Twitter and that's probably the best place. I publish all my articles and standards and everything all there. So yeah, and my Paragraph is Holonic Horizons. So paragraph.com. Holons, talking about holons. Yeah. Holonic. Yeah. So that's integral theory. Do you guys have holons in Landmark? No. No. But this woman Carol, she's all about the peace movement and she's been making a book about puns and plants and peace, and she talks to me about holons sometimes."],[null,"Yeah. That all comes from Ken Wilber's integral stuff and I've found a couple of groups that go deep into Ken Wilber's integral work as well. So that's my whole game, is a really deep complexity theory and history of religion and different ways of kind of working through it. Because if you think about it, it's the weirdest thing in the world to be an apparently separate thing in a transcendent, timeless, infinite, unchanging reality. And so the whole spiritual thing is all about, how in the heck am I supposed to reconcile the fact that I appear to be this thing but then the universe is enormous and everything seems transcendent, and how can both those things be true? And so what I've told you about today about the hemispheres of the brain and all that. So my whole thing is I want to kind of let people understand that there are known pathways between this left and right hemisphere of the brain, and those are things that people know and they've known for thousands of years. You know, the hard problem of consciousness and physics doesn't really exist. It just comes from a very specific frame of reference. We solved the hard problem of consciousness like 10,000 years ago."],[null,"Yeah, in India, and before that, you know, native bands and shamans. That's their whole role in that society, is to be able to see reality as it is, and to do that you have to have a functioning right brain. And it's a whole different lexicon, it's an entirely different language, an entirely different way of framing and understanding how you speak and how you act and how you are in the world, and your relationship toward things is fundamentally changed by it. So yeah, I'm really enjoying being able to take my entire self and put it into the work that I'm doing currently here."],[null,"Is there anything else you want to say to the world? Yeah. Hari Tat. Thank you. Thank you."]]},{"id":"8J43O5f-EJ4","slug":"kafani-asks-lagos-four-questions-about-crypto-and-community","title":"Kafani asks Lagos four questions about crypto and community","place":"Lagos","who":"Kafani","paras":[[0,"Bitcoin pizza day is not complete without pizza. So, let's go get pizza. What is your favorite pizza? You guys want to be asking for garri fl."],[16,"Hi, I'm Kafani from Lagos, Nigeria, and this is for We Them Media and pizza d in celebration of Bitcoin pizza day 2026. I'll be asking people questions about what is Bitcoin pizza day. If they had 10,000 Bitcoin today, what would they do? And what is their favorite pizza?"],[36,"I'll also be asking them if they could ask anyone from around the world the question. What question will they ask? If you do not know, Bitcoin pizza day is a famous moment in crypto history. It marks the first widely recognized real world purchase made with Bitcoin. two pizzas from Papa John's. On May 22, 2010, a programmer named Laszlo Hanyecz paid 10,000 bitcoin for two pizza in Papa John's. At that time, Bitcoin was still experimental. So, this transaction showed that digital currency could be used to buy something tangible in real world, not just traded between developers online. So, there those bitcoins are worth thousands of dollars."],[80,"People also dropped that those pizzas were the most expensive pizza ever. Today, Bitcoin Pizza Day is celebrated May 22 annually. Is a day for people to come together to talk, laugh, eat pizza, have fun, and talk about and remember that historical moment in crypto history. Now, let's go and ask people what they think of Bitcoin pizza day."],[107,"Hi, I'm Kafi. for me is I'm Kelsey. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too. Okay. And what's your favorite pizza? Uh my favorite pizza is chairman barbecue with chicken."],[120,"Okay. You know, if you had 10,000 bitcoins today, what would you do with it? Wo. If I had 10,000 for asking me 80,000 USD time 10,000"],[136,"it's more than Well, I'll buy an island. Did you know that you're not the first or second person to say they will buy an island today? Like what's with you guys? I'm buying an island."],[147,"I love islands. My privacy then buy castle. A castle. Yeah. I mean first of all me and then maybe some donations. Okay. To know to the less privileged and everything."],[163,"Okay. Okay. Um do you know about Bitcoin pizza day? No I do not. Okay. So yearly um May 22nd the crypto community come together to celebrate the person that bought pizza with 10,000 BTC in 2010."],[182,"Wow. Okay. He bought soup about John. He ate his fortune. What happened to him? Is it still alive? Yeah, he is. He is. And yeah. So we have to laugh about it. I said that world most expensive."],[201,"Oh my god. Yes. Yeah. World most expensive junk food. Oh. So we come together and celebrate it every year and fun like an annual event and I think we are doing one in Lagos or Nigeria this year and would you like to attend like would you like to attend? Yeah, I I would like to the location and the phone."],[227,"Okay. You should definitely check out Peter G on X on Twitter. Okay. For more information. And if you could ask um a question to anyone around the world, what would you ask them? Like any question."],[239,"Any question? Yeah. Would they give me? No. Aside from that, like another question like question. What? Can you pick something like from the stage? Anytime any type of question what are we doing about"],[259,"okay okay that's deep but like can you tell us about like situation or in the current reality where we have passport holders from underdeveloped paying high amount of money apply for visas to accept other countries whereas we have people with those countries that don't have to pay and with their passport they can go to so many countries the country I'm not going to mention just last year make over 268 million well their currency if I mention you will know"],[303,"yeah from just um high level applications alone not for student visa not for tourist visa not from travel visa just a specific type of visa Wow."],[313,"So, a lot of money goes into it and people don't even talk about. So, um if you listening, what are we doing about Thank you so much and it was nice to talk to you. At least I learned something. Thank you so much."],[328,"Hi, I'm Kaf. Yeah, my name is B. Okay, B. Nice to meet you. Um, what's your favorite pizza? Sorry, I don't Are you for real? What do you do? What do you kind of sn?"],[348,"Yes. I'm not a smart person. Probably not. Okay. Well, um if you had 10,000 bitcoins, what will you do with it? 8,000 Bitcoin is around um um 107 something million NRA um buy stock."],[371,"What kind of stock? A lot of stock to buy buy shares from some companies as investment basically. Okay. Cuz I'm more into business too. Okay. Um Okay, that's cool. Um have you heard of Bitcoin Pizza Day?"],[387,"No. Well, May 22nd every year, crypto people come to celebrate a historical moment in crypto. Um, where basically, um, what happened basically was May 2010, 22nd May 2010. Um, a guy bought crypto, bought pizza with 10,000 bitcoins."],[410,"I think I've heard that. Yeah. Papa John's pizza. He bought two bitcoins. two pizzas for two bitcoin. He bought two pizzas from Papa Joy worth 10,000 bitcoins and that was the first time bitcoin was used to make a purchase in real life. Yeah. So we celebrate every year we come together to have fun celebrate talk about it post memes and everything. People even call it the most expensive pizza in the world. So yeah that 10,000 bitcoin that you used to buy stock used to buy two two pizzas. How do you feel about that? Well uh it's kind of surprising uh that someone was able to make do of that and then"],[459,"brought that invention and now Bitcoin is well known that one is still an amazing and something is still good. I'm not really into that but I feel it's great."],[473,"Okay. So would you love to um attend a Bitcoin event? Bitcoin pizza day. I wish. Yeah, they normally do like an event worldwide. So there might be one in your city in Lagos basically. So you should definitely check out Pizza D and um their page on X and see for more information. Yeah, thank you so much. Hi, I'm Kafani. What's your name?"],[496,"Hello, I'm Timmy. Hi Tammy. Um what's your favorite pizza? pork and pineapple. That's a crazy combination. I've actually never tried. Okay, let me explain. If you had 10,000 people watching 10,000,"],[521,"you won't be seeing me. You won't see me. Where will you be? I'll be on an island living my best life. Okay. Do you know about Bitcoin pizza?"],[535,"Um, yeah. No, I think so. I think I've heard of it. Okay. Tell me about it. What happens on Bitcoin pizza? Uh, so it was about this guy that bought pizza."],[553,"No, you got it wrong. Okay. He bought two pizzas. Papa Jo. worth 10,000 bitcoins. The 10,000 bitcoins that you said to an island. Okay. He used it to buy two pizzas from Papa. And like I wish I sold pizza."],[572,"Okay. But like, do you know why it's important? It's important because that was the first time Bitcoin was used to make a real world purchase. Like is it signify that crypto could be used to buy tangible um stuff in real life. So that's why we celebrate it every year on May 2. We share, we laugh, you know, and have fun. So now you know about Bitcoin pizza."],[597,"Yeah. And I think there's like an event they do like in different cities like Lagos, Nigeria, different countries like a worldwide event. I'm definitely educated."],[609,"Would you like to um attend one? Yeah, why not? Are you a crypto girl? Are you a cryptogirl? No, but I know someone who is."],[620,"Okay. Right. No problem. Okay. So, if you had one question to ask anyone around you, what would you ask them? Like if you could ask one question, someone around you. Can I have some of your questions?"],[633,"Oh, okay. Um, one question if I could ask them. Uh things like what do you react? Um genuinely I'll ask for a million dollars. You ask for a million dollars."],[658,"Why money? Because everybody love money is awesome. Everybody love No, like you have to ask a question. Like if you could ask them a question."],[665,"Oh, okay. A question. What would wealth look like to you? What would wealth look like to you? Okay. Okay. Um, I'm Kafani and it was nice to meet you. Thank you."],[680,"Hi, I'm Kafani and we meet. Okay. Nice to meet you. Nice meeting you. Um, what's your favorite pizza? Pepperoni. So, so pepperoni sauce. What's pepperoni? So, so"],[699,"ah don't you you don't you dig like that? I don't know. I only know pepperoni pizza now. Okay. If you had 10,000 bitcoins. Okay. What will you do with it?"],[712,"Ah, I'm buying a private island. 10,000 million 10,000 bitcoins. You have to edit that. That's millions of dollars. 10,000. Yes. One bit 10,000. I'm buying 10,000 private island."],[731,"Yeah. I'm buying a private island. Okay. Have you heard of Bitcoin pizza day? No. No. No. No. Okay. So, Bitcoin pizza day is something crypto people celebrate every May 22nd. So um we celebrated like mainly pizza d and it's because we celebrated it because May 20 May 22nd 2010 a guy a um a guy bought two pizzas for 10,000 bitcoins."],[759,"Bought two pizza. Yes. For 10,000 bitcoin. So we is a historical moment in crypto because that was the first time crypto was used to buy something tangible in real life."],[770,"Yeah. So that 10,000 bitcoin that you used to buy an island, someone used it to buy pizza in 2010. In 2010? Yes. So now we come together to celebrate it annually."],[782,"Yeah. So they normally Is there an event going on for you? Yes. Yes. They do events and there's like Yes. There's going to be an event May 22nd and Yeah. Would you like to attend?"],[794,"Would you like to attend the events? Even eventually with any schedule I have there. Okay. Oh yeah. Now you should check it definitely check it out on X and you can check out Peter Da on X as well. Okay. So if you could ask anyone around the world a question. One question. What question would you ask them?"],[814,"Just only one person. Yeah. One question. Anybody like a one question? Yeah. Why do we live to die again? Wow. That's profound. I just I'm looking I'm still looking for someone that can answer me that question. Why do we hear"],[830,"to die again? Okay. Thank you so much. I'm Kafani and it was nice to talk to you. Thank you. Welcome. Hi, I'm Kafani and me is"],[840,"Hi, this is George. Okay. Nice to meet you, George. Okay. Um, what's your favorite pizza? Favorite pizza? Yeah, that would be cheese. Chicks. That is the flavor."],[852,"Chicken and cheese. Yeah. Okay. Um, if you had 10,000 bitcoins today, what would you do with it? I'll probably say invest 50,000 5,000 then use the other 5,000 on myself."],[864,"What would you do like on yourself? House change my wardrobe and all that with 5,000 Bitcoin. Yeah. When you cover that to the identity that's"],[880,"Yeah. I'm saying change my wardrobe. Wow. Okay. So, have you heard of Bitcoin? Um okay. So this month pizza day is May 22nd and we celebrate yearly. This is the 16th pizza day being celebrated. So basically um 16 years ago a um programmer bought two pizzas for 10,000 bitcoins"],[904,"and that was the first time bitcoin were used to make real world purchase. And so we do like an event yearly. We celebrate that historical moments. We have fun. We eat pizza. We laugh. We share meals. It's just a fun day in the crypto space basically and they do like events in different countries for the same. So I think they're doing one in Nigeria this year. Would you like to attend? Um you can definitely check out more info on pizza on X and yeah. Okay. So if you could ask one person like a question anywhere around the world."],[941,"What question you ask? This is art. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Community is really important to me because I feel like we are all definitely shaped by the community we belong to. Communities are about learning from different people, sharing sharing same experience, interests, having conversation and you know everybody deserves to be a part of a community. Community is more than you know certain people. It's definitely people that make you feel seen. It's definitely people that make you feel safe. It's definitely people that share the same interest, people that inspire you, people you learn from. And I feel like community is one of the greatest, you know, things that a human being can"],[990,"be a part of. And I definitely feel like the pizza day is more than just a day of, you know, eating pizza, thinking back about the first um purchase ever made. And it's more about people coming together, people in crypto coming together to talk about how you know they are part of this historical moment. This historical moment shaped the crypto community we definitely have today. And you know because of that I feel like I have taken the time to reflect and think of the communities I am a part of and how they shape me. So for that reason I'll be asking people in my community"],[1026,"what community means to them. Hi, I'm Kafani and with me is Favor. Okay. Nice to meet you, Favor. Yeah. Okay. Um, in honor of pizza day today, I would like to ask you a few question. Do you know what Bitcoin pizza day is?"],[1042,"No, not really. Well, um, Bitcoin um, pizza day is an annual celebration in crypto where people come together to celebrate the first time Bitcoin was used to make a real world purchase. That was May 22, 2010. And the first um item someone bought with Bitcoin was two Papa John's pizza with 10,000 bitcoins. What is that? It's crazy."],[1071,"10,000. So if you had 10,000, what would you do with it? I buy your house in Banana Island. Buy my mom a car. Okay. Okay. But like if you could go back in time to like 2010 when Bitcoin was like like around a dollar or like maybe less or like more but it's not as much as it is worth. Do you think you'd have made the same decision? Would you have a custom tok?"],[1098,"Am I cream? No, obviously not. So you'd have held it. Yeah, I would really really keep it. Okay. Okay. Um what does community mean to you? M community is like um I won't say because obviously not place but being with people that makes you feel seen connected or heard people you share the same values or um perception like you can grow with them you learn with them every day and they give you fresh ideas to watch your"],[1131,"okay okay what what community do you love? Um I'm a feminist. So that's one that's the top four. Okay. Then I'm also a lover of music. So anything music I always Okay. So you're part of the feminism community."],[1149,"Okay girl. I see you. Do you think you ever buy pizza with crypto? Like can you knowing that crypto is worth a lot? Do you think you can buy pizza with crypto?"],[1161,"No. No. Why? Why? It sounds unnecessary to me telling now that crypto is like a big thing. Why pizza? Why you don't like pizza? I love pizza. But using crypto, I don't even know how to use crypto. That was just the language. But even if I did, they sound like a lot of pizza."],[1180,"No, but you know that there are like um different amounts of crypto. Like $10 can be like a certain amount in. So like it's not as if you're using a big amount of money. just the um price of the pizza. You use it the equivalent of pizza to buy pizza."],[1196,"But I call it if I don't have like cash for money man cuz it seems like a good pro just okay. Okay. Are there any type of communities you like to see? Like are you do you know about the crypto community? Would you like to be a part of the crypto community or what kind of community would you like?"],[1215,"Yeah. Yeah, I would like to be a part of but then I heard it's high and your heart is not strong. go and join them but still I still want to pull in to see what it's like and maybe because everybody looking for money so if I can go in that week okay what's the other type of communities are you a part of like what type of community you like to see LGBTQ"],[1235,"okay I want to see what it's like I want to explore one because so far I've seen so many different grow I don't want to be limited in just one so yeah LGBTQ And yeah, I think that's it for now. Okay. Yeah. Okay. What's your last question? What's your favorite Japanese?"],[1257,"Um, I don't have a favorite, but I don't like that's all I had. So, very nice actually. Happy pizza day to you. Thank you so much."],[1266,"Hi, I'm Kafania. With me is Patricia. Okay. Hi, Patricia. Hi, Kafani. I like your aesthetics. Thank you. Okay. So, in honor of Bitcoin pizza day, I would like to ask you a question. But firstly, do you know what Bitcoin pizza day is?"],[1281,"No. Okay. So, it's basically a day crypto community come to celebrate the first item in real time that was bought that was purchased with Bitcoin crypto. So, that was May 22nd, 2010. And the first item purchased was two Papa John's pizzas for 10,000 Bitcoin. So, like the crypto community always say that that's the most expensive pizza I ever gotten. Like if you had 10,000 um bitcoins, what would you do with this?"],[1309,"If I had 10,000 bitcoin now, I would definitely not use get pizza. What would you get? Um maybe a house, but a house is still like worth more than a house. 10,000 bitcoin is still worth more than one bitcoin is not like how much I"],[1325,"like over $7,000. Yeah. Get the house first. Okay. And um knowing what you know now, you knowing how much Bitcoin is worth now, if you could go back in time, what would you do with it? As at that time, crypto was um Bitcoin was like a dollar or like maybe less or like a bit higher."],[1346,"So what would you have done like knowing what you know now? Um I think I'd have gotten lots of Bitcoin know what I know now because I know like eventually Bitcoin to appreciate. So I've gotten lots of then as 2010 it didn't really have value to get something of value to just get lots of it and then for it to increase over the years."],[1366,"Okay. Okay. Um you know after as um what I've said about pizza day basically it's not just about celebrating. It's a day of community where we come together to eat pizza have fun laugh share memes and everything. And so I would like to ask you what does community mean to you?"],[1383,"I think community is a safe space for me. A place where I can like easily interact with anyone that holds similar ideas as me. Okay."],[1392,"And a place I can be who I am, a place I can be comable that is community. Okay. For me. Okay. What communities do you belong to?"],[1400,"Um I'm not very active in any community presently. Well, I think I belong to like the fashion community. Okay. Um literature literature community. Okay girl."],[1410,"And um I think it is mostly literature and fashion. Okay. Okay, I I see I definitely see the fashion. It's giving everything more. Okay. So, um"],[1422,"if you could ask anyone around the world a question, like any question at all, what question would you ask him? Um like anyone around the world?"],[1432,"Yes. Okay. I think my question will like go to M Shafa. Okay. Okay. Why was I acting terrible in episode 3 of Ephoria? Okay. Wow. Okay. But like I'm I'm actually not in that show so I don't I can't relate. But like aside from that, like any question you can ask anyone else like not a specific person, just people from around the world like you would like answers to. Like any other question? H"],[1467,"I don't think I have a specific person in mind or any specific question to ask in mind. I think most of my questions are like are not for particular person. Therefore like for like the world universe exactly"],[1480,"the universe is very expansive and we know like nothing about the universe cuz the universe is limitless. Okay. So what question would you like to ask the universe to what"],[1490,"how did it come to be like what is this like this glorious existence? What is it? Wow. Okay, that's that's deep. That's quite deep. Okay, that's very interesting. And I hope maybe one day you get answers to your question."],[1504,"Would you like to be a part of the crypto community or are you a part of the crypto community? I would like to be a part of the other I don't know how crypto works. I would like to be a part of crypto community."],[1515,"Why? To get money. To get money. To get money. Okay. What do you know about the crypto community except from getting money? Um, I know actually I don't know anything about it. I don't know anything about it."],[1531,"Okay, final question. What's your favorite pizza flavor? I don't have a favorite, but last I had was pepperoni. So, pepperoni. Wow. Do you know that like a bit of people that I've interviewed today said the same thing that they recently had pepperoni. So,"],[1546,"wow. Okay. You guys are out here having pizza parties in uni lag. Okay. Yeah, I'm here for it. Thank you so much, Patricia. It was nice talking to you. Thank you. With me is"],[1557,"Hi, my name is Simula. Nice to meet you, Simua. Nice to meet you, too. Okay. In honor of um Bitcoin Pizza Day, um I have a few questions to ask you."],[1566,"Okay. Do you know what Bitcoin Pizza Day is? Not really. But you know Bitcoin? Yes, I do. Okay. So like in May of 2010, so in May 22nd 2010, then the first ever real life purchase was made with Bitcoin and that was two Papa John's pizzas with 10,000 Bitcoins."],[1584,"Yes. So every year since then, we come together to celebrate that time as a community with a shared story and a shared history of how Bitcoin has become a real life um type of digital asset that you can use to trade for real life stuffs. So, um, if you had 10,000 bitcoins today, what would you do with it?"],[1605,"I'll run away from Nigeria. Why I run away? Cuz I'm tired of Nigeria. I run away from Where do you run to? I run to like Maldives or or Thailand."],[1616,"You will live there permanently. Yes. I'll stay there forever. Okay. Um, what does community mean to you? Um to me community is finding meaningfulness and realness"],[1629,"in a lot. Okay. That's what community is just to me like just finding that set of people that keep it real with you. Mhm. And you know keep you in touch with reality."],[1640,"Okay. What communities are you a part of? Like are you um community I'm part of like you know different fashion community, music community. There are school communities. You know is a community?"],[1651,"Yeah. I'm part of Unilaxon. That's a community. I'm also part of another community. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. What other type of communities would you like to see?"],[1663,"Um community a community for for people who are open. Yeah. I want to see a community for people who do not follow like the societal standards."],[1675,"Yeah. Yeah. I want to see a community for people that are open-minded, free. Mhm. People that that can express themselves well. Yes. I want to see a community for that. And I want that community to be accepted too."],[1686,"So like be open-minded. Yes, definitely. Openminded. Okay. Okay. I'm not of the crypto community. Have you heard of the crypto community? Oh yes. Are you a couple of times?"],[1696,"Are you a part of the crypto community? I'm not rich enough to be a crypto crypto broke. Like, but do you know I like I feel like everybody I've interviewed so far feel like you need money to be a part of the crypto."],[1707,"But you do need money. Do you? Do you know? I think so. I joined the crypto community with zero to my name. Oh wow. Yes. And you know it's not only about trading the crypto community like I told you the pizza day is for people coming together to eat pizza and talk and laugh. Like there are people that share memes. There are people that make art. They are photographers. Artists they are builders. So there are different types of people in the crypto community like people from different part of the world. So like you having money and trading is another aspect of the crypto community but that's not what the whole crypto"],[1739,"community is about. So you should definitely look into joining the crypto community. Yes. It's a place for everybody. Okay. So if you could ask anyone in in the world anywhere in the world a question what would you ask them?"],[1753,"Like anyone anywhere in the world? Yeah. Not a specific person. Are you happy? Oh yeah. I want to ask you that. Are you happy? Are you happy?"],[1764,"Yeah. Are you you are you happy? I'm not really happy, but like I'm trying to be happy. I'm trying my best. So yeah. But if you're not happy, like please stay happy. Okay. I love you."],[1776,"The crypto community loves you. Love you, too. Okay. Final question. What's your favorite pizza flavor? Uh pepperoni. No. I think the first time I had pizza, it was um this Domino's meat. Was it mitzah? Yes."],[1795,"Yes. That was the first thing and I was in love with it. So I fell in love with it like instantly. Do you think you'll be willing to try that pineapple pizza?"],[1803,"Maybe I love like side I love side quest. So if I see someone there like you know making pineapple pizza for like at like student at a student rate or student value, I'll definitely up on one. Yeah,"],[1818,"thank you so much. It was nice to talk to you. Hi, I'm Kafani and with me is Fortune. Nice to meet you, Fortune. Nice to meet you, too."],[1825,"Um, have you heard of Bitcoin pizza? No, I have. Okay, but have you heard of Bitcoin? Yeah. If you if you have 10,000 bitcoins today, if I give you 10,000 bitcoins today, what would you do with it?"],[1838,"Um, there's a lot of things to do with it. I think firstly, I'll get myself a house. Probably a car for my parents to then plan on leaving this country."],[1848,"What type of car? Ben. Okay. You have taste. I see that. Okay. What country will you go to? Par. I want to go to Paris."],[1865,"Yeah. So, I think I'll go to Par first. Mhm. The city of love. Wee wee. Mhm. Okay. So yeah. Okay. So let do you let me tell you about Bitcoin pizza day. Basically, it's a day annually where we where we as a community, the crypto community, come together to celebrate the first ever um um thing item that was gotten in real life with Bitcoin. That was pizza. Two Papa John's pizza. And it was gotten on 22nd of May 2010. And it was um gotten at Papa John's two pizza for 10,000 bitcoins."],[1903,"Wow. Yes. That's crazy. Okay. Do you think you would buy two pizzas for 10,000 bitcoins? Definitely not. Why? I mean, you said that was 2010. Yeah."],[1914,"Yes. I feel bitcoin was not worth as much as it's worth currently. So, why would I buy two boxes of pizza or 10,000 BTC? Nah, my village people will not do that."],[1926,"So, if you could go back in time to 2010, what would you do with this coin? I've gotten a lot. Oh, God. But it is not. Did you know that the price today is not what it was?"],[1936,"I feel like now that I have a peak to the picture um to the future, I can go back in time if I could go back in time. Ah,"],[1944,"but I will borrow to buy more then. But yeah. So, okay. Okay. So in um in you know in honor of Bitcoin pizza day and celebration of community the day of community the crypto community coming together to eat pizza have fun laugh you know share memes and stuff like that. What does community mean to you?"],[1964,"Well I see community as a group of people who who look out for each other people who who are just like kind to each other basically and look out for each other."],[1978,"Okay. So what what communities are you a part of? Why are you laughing? I don't think I'm currently in a particular community. Okay. But communities I would love to see or I would love to be a part of is"],[1994,"I think there are a lot of communities actually. We have the fashion community, literary community. I think I would love to be a part of the literary community more. I love to read books. I love to like learn about books. So I feel that's a community I would love to give back."],[2008,"Okay. So like I don't know like any community like that any reading communities are actually but I feel I've been the one holding back and why are you holding back? Don't you want to be in a place where people of like mind are like together reading having fun. I think they even do like this um live reading online. I think in a ka also like people come people book readers come together and"],[2031,"like I attended the book club meetings sometime I think last month or earlier this month but I don't think I've put in the dedication to call myself a community member so I feel"],[2043,"something I would like to work towards I think you should definitely work toward cuz being a part of community is very fun there are people that can push you you know aside although it's like a book reading club you can like exchange exchange um ideas and just like have fun, you know, learn from each other and grow together. I think it's definitely a good idea to be a part of those that type of community. Okay. Have you heard of the crypto community?"],[2067,"Yes, I have. I mean, everybody almost everybody's doing crypto at this point. Crypto. Yeah, crypto there. I think I'm the only one not doing crypto. Why you not doing crypto? Money is well, but you know that you don't actually need money to be an active member of the crypto community. No, it goes um beyond you buying crypto and you know having coins. You know, there are different members of the crypto community. There are like the photography crypto community, the NFT crypto community, their art community. There also content creators in the crypto community. So like you don't necessarily need money to be a part of the crypto community. It's just you"],[2103,"finding your way. You know, you can check Twitter for like active members of the people that you want to like join. You know, there are even crypto community for book readers. I think I know someone that is like working on an app that for people to read book and it's like a crypto app and stuff like that. So you should definitely check out and you know be a part of the crypto community is a place Yeah. It's a place for everyone from around the world that has like love for crypto to come together learn share ideas talk chat vibe you know and have fun."],[2135,"Yeah that's cool. I love to be a part. Okay. If you could ask anyone around from around the world a question like maybe not a specific person or like if you could ask the world a specific question like anyone in the world anywhere in the world what should you ask him"],[2151,"anywhere in the world could be Nigeria. There any question I would love to ask our president why is he evil? Well, any question for anyone anyone in the world anyone that is bothering me currently why is he evil"],[2171,"like the country is literally on fire and there's nothing being done about it. Okay. Yeah, that's a question I would love to that's the one pressing question I have and maybe around the world."],[2185,"I don't think I have a question. I just have something to say to people like kinder like sure you are not a reason someone is miserable. Just be kind to people. That's what I love to say."],[2198,"Yeah. Last question for you. Okay. What's your favorite pizza flavor? Sweet chili. Okay. It's really good. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's one of the best ones I've had."],[2209,"Okay. Thank you so much. Happy pizza day to you and I hope to see you in the crypto community someday. Thank you. I hope so too."],[2217,"Bye. Bye. Hi, I'm Kafania and with me is Okay. Nice to meet you. Um um do you know about Bitcoin pizza day? Bitcoin? Pizza day. Yeah."],[2229,"H no. But you know about Bitcoin? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you had 10,000 bitcoins today, what would you do is leave the country, invest, stop school?"],[2240,"Why would you stop school? The point of working or going to school is to get money. Is it? What else is the point? You get knowledge to get money."],[2248,"Well, well, I can I can't say I disagree. Um, so let me tell you about Bitcoin pizza day. Um, in on the 22nd of May 2010, the first ever real life purchase was made with Bitcoin. That was 10,000 bitcoin and the person made a purchase of two Papa John's pizzas for 10,000 bitcoin. So now every year annually on 22nd of May we come together the crypto community come together to eat pizza have fun you know vibe share memes I just laugh about it you know people say that that's the most expensive pizza I ever gotten. It will be"],[2284,"okay um so in order of that I would like to ask you what does community mean to you? Community A group of people working for a particular interest."],[2294,"Okay. But what does it mean to you? Like to you what? Yeah, that's what I feel like it is. Okay. What community? Particular interest. Okay. What community are you a part of? Like what community?"],[2306,"Uh community? Not really much. No, not aside from do you like community? Like you don't have any other specific put groups on Facebooks or Instagram or WhatsApp?"],[2317,"Yeah, they are online community as well. than those ones, but I mainly join them for my anime ma. I don't really go for social vibes that much."],[2325,"And so you're part of the anime community now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm also part of the anime community. What's your favorite anime? H there are a lot. I just respect them. I don't really have a favorite."],[2336,"Okay. What is like the one you most recently watched? Recently watched that would be Demon Slayer. No, the new one that just came out. Yeah, Infinity Armor Castle."],[2348,"Okay. Um, I just watched Welcome to Demon High School Rumor. That's what I watch. I was watching it this morning. Welcome to Demon. Yes. So, um, aside from that, are there any other communities you like to be a part of?"],[2361,"Not really much. As long as it doesn't interest me. I don't see any reason to join. Okay. Okay. But like I feel like communities are a place where people come together to have fun, socialize."],[2370,"As I said is when you have a particular interest to join a community. Okay. You can't expect how should I put this? Yeah, let me use this as example. You can't expect someone from engineering to start saying is interested in survey."],[2384,"Okay. Doesn't really work out. Okay. Actually, that's true. Okay. Have you heard of the crypto community? No, but I believe there'll be a community or such."],[2394,"Okay. Do you would you like to join crypto? Are you interested in crypto? Nah, business is not really my thing. Okay. Um, final question. What's your favorite pizza flavor? M go for chicken."],[2407,"Chicken chicken pizza. Okay. Thank you so much for your time. It was nice talking to you. Kaf with me is how you doing F? Nice to meet you face."],[2417,"Okay. So on behalf of um because it's pizza day, Bitcoin pizza day. Today I would like to ask you a question. Okay. So basically what Bitcoin pizza day is is an annual celebration where the crypto community come together to celebrate the first time Bitcoin was ever used to make a real life purchase. And the first thing they bought was pizza. Two papa join pizza. So I would like to ask you what does community mean to you?"],[2442,"Okay. To me community is like where a group of people that have the same belief share the same space like they're in a particular space together."],[2452,"Okay. That's a community. Okay. What what what communities are you a part of? Um in religion aspect any type of community. Okay. Like in a religion aspect, I'll say my religion is a bit different from the normal one you guys."],[2469,"Okay. What's what relig? Okay. So what's the community about? Like Okay. So like a group or a group of people that have similar beliefs different from the rest. My community is different from another person's community."],[2484,"Okay. What other type of communities would you like to see? Would you like to be a part of? Another one that I'm part of is the K-pop community."],[2492,"Okay. Army. YES. YES. YEAH. I I saw that the um BTS they just came back from their world tour. Okay. I'm part of that community."],[2508,"That's nice. That's nice. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you again. Okay. So, um how is the K-pop community for you? Like it's nice. So, I'm enjoying myself. It's different from the regular boy and you know there we go. We have BTS and there's a lot in the K-pop community and it's how I say I don't want to be too it's like we have our own world our own space. It's just us. Nobody can interfere."],[2533,"Okay. Okay. Yes, I definitely do see it online. Like I'm not an active member but I really like K-pop and I'm a I'm an army. I'm an army."],[2543,"Okay. But like most of those things are not really accessible like their merch and stuff you can't really get. So that's sad. Okay. So um out of the crypto community, are you head of the crypto community?"],[2553,"Are you a part of the crypto community? Not exactly. Exactly. Okay. Um what why do you say not? Not exactly. Um I've tried to join some but there's a lot of rumor that thing is not they will scam you, you pay for less, they will tell you that you money will go. I don't know how to get involved."],[2571,"Okay. But do you know that you can join the crypto community without actually you know paying money and stuff like that? There are different aspects of crypto community. There are like the arts, the photography, NFC like there are different even content communities in the crypto inside the crypto community. So they all come together to just they all come together because of crypto you get? So like you don't necessarily have to be an active trader to be a part of the crypto community. I'm I'm part of the crypto community too. And aside from being a photographer and an artist, I make content as well. So you can be definitely be a part of"],[2603,"the crypto community and that's what the Bitcoin pizza day is. Aside from the fact that it's the first time they use Bitcoin to buy pizza. So annually it is a day for people in the crypto community to come together to celebrate what it represents you get. So it's like a fun celebration every day 2 every year 22nd May since 2010. This is the 16th um annual celebration. So it's a day of enjoyment, eating pizza, having fun and you know so if you could ask anyone in the world like anyone around the world a question like not a specific person like anybody in general what question would"],[2638,"you ask him like just anybody? Yeah. Anybody like any questions? Any questions? I think I'll ask I'll ask J hope. Jo, you ask J. What would you ask J?"],[2659,"How you survived like criticism? Okay. Criticism about Yes. You know when you know you're doing nothing wrong, but people are just hating. Yeah. I don't think it to be me. I don't know how I don't know. How do you cope? like how does he cuz you won't always express it but in your mind"],[2677,"things might be clouding your mind you don't know why no you're not doing anything wrong even people that are still in they don't hate them as much as the hate you're getting online"],[2685,"so yeah how to survive criticism because I was thinking of going into the content yes or more I don't know let somebody know be abusing me for saying what I did not do"],[2698,"so yes okay um um another question if you had 10,000 bitcoins today, what will you do with it? 10,000 bitcoins. Mhm. That like a very big amount of money."],[2709,"One bitcoin is like $70,000 today. Like $70,000. Yeah. So 10,000. Guys, I'm going to Korea. I'm definitely going to Korea. That's it. We go to Korea."],[2721,"Yes. Come back. And you never Okay. And final question. What's your favorite pizza flavor? My favorite pizza flavor? The one I want to taste is weird, but I want to see the pineapple on pizza."],[2738,"It's actually taste actually quite I've not tasted, but I'm anticipating. I want to know what's what's that about. Okay, no problem. Thank you so much and happy pizza day to you. Thank you. I hope to see you in the crypto community soon."],[2752,"Bye. Bye. Hi, I'm Nice to meet you. Um, so in honor of Bitcoin pizza day, I would like to ask you a few questions. Do you know what Bitcoin pizza day is?"],[2765,"I have no idea. But you know what Bitcoin is? I guess so. So basically every year the crypto community come together on May 22nd and to celebrate the first time Bitcoin was ever used to make in real life. That was and the first thing they purchased was um two pizzas from Papa John's and they paid 10,000. If you had 10,000 I think I think Bitcoin is going for about one bitcoin is going for like 64 NRA or something. I think I'll squander it. Okay. Okay. Just to be serious, I think I'll build a couple of houses to be honest. I just want to secure my"],[2809,"investment, buy houses, lock some funds, invest some companies. I'll probably just get a financial advisor or whatever you have to just help me. If not, this is for just everything."],[2822,"10,000 honestly. Wow. Wow. That is actually crazy. So like do you think that if you could go back in time do you think you would buy food and then if you go back to"],[2835,"I think at that point in time nobody had an idea that this was going to be a disruption later on so I probably would have bought sweet instead"],[2846,"well actually so um you know because it's a day of where people come together people in the group community come together to have fun would like to ask you what does community mean to and just a place where you are safe where you feel like yourself can express yourself into the mountain without being shy to being insecure or anything that's basically"],[2870,"okay what are you talking about can I see my friend okay okay what what do you guys do like what what they make you feel"],[2885,"I think it's been fit for over 6 years and you guys have been growing together, watching you guys grow, building together, trying to develop, you know, in every aspect of life. So those are my bros."],[2898,"That's definitely why community people that you can laugh with, grow with, learn from, you know, and that's the fun part of Bitcoin pizza. It's a day where people in the community come together and talk about the history, laugh about the most expensive pizza ever gotten, you know, and just have fun. And what other communities would you like to see? Like what what other communities would you like to see?"],[2919,"Uh the community where they share money please is hard enough. You like money? Just share money please. Okay. Um are you a part of the crypto community?"],[2930,"No. Why? Why not? I barely know anything. Yeah. A couple of people I have spoken with they feel like they they need money. Do you know"],[2944,"I think you need you need leverage and yes money is the leverage but you know that there are other people inside people that make musically have to have money but those are like traders in the crypto community. So that's like what's that's the different community."],[2971,"Yeah. So um if you could ask anyone around the world a question like a specific question like not a specific person maybe the world in general question what would you like to ask"],[2984,"this is what I like to ask. Yeah. Ah, what would I like to ask? I don't know. I've not really put thoughts to this kind of person. I don't know. Am I going to be speaking to you? I might be insulting you. I just want everything to end. But I'm tired."],[3006,"Why are you tired? I'm just tired. Everything should just end. But if I'm to ask you a question, can we ask for money? Can we ask for You can ask for money. I'll definitely ask some money since Ellen Mox and the rest of them will be I know that they probably not give me the money but I'll be asking the world for money. Just give me money but give me information. I think that's better."],[3027,"Information is money. Yeah, I think information is better. Yeah. Final question. What is your favorite? You guys want me for Gary Flavor? Okay. I think I think I like the barbecue flavor. Okay."],[3042,"I'm not eating much pizza. You know expensive but I think So far the barbecue flavor. But do you know that I I actually think someone made garri pizza"],[3054,"they made it for people like us. You can make it. So we can relate. You can be the next African. Don't worry. garri pizza by Mckin. No by machines is coming to your"],[3066,"to your area. To your area. Watch out. Thank you so much for your time. All right. Bye. Bitcoin pizza day is not complete without pizza. So, let's go get pizza."],[3088,"That's cool. Yes, it was. You're welcome. Yes, crypto introduced me to people and different activities far different from where I live from Los to anywhere in the world. Community is a big part of each and every one of our lives and especially a big part of crypto. I'm Kafani signing off. Let's query the world. Happy pizza day to everyone who celebrates. Bye."]]},{"id":"yGDz77IGjBw","slug":"arikia-millikan-on-licensing-journalism-peer-to-peer","title":"Arikia Millikan, on licensing journalism peer to peer","place":"New York","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"The analog is that peer-to-peer transactions for article-based content eliminates the publication as a central intermediary. And that's important to do right now because the failures of the media industry's business models over the past 20 years has led to a financial collapse in the industry where publications are going out of business, going offline. One, the databases that hold the content in the Web2 ecosystem are changing hands then to the new management or just being completely deleted if nobody wants to pay for their maintenance anymore. We're enabling authors to maintain their own archives and then transact with those archives from a point of like they're managing their own ownership."],[49,"and so they're deciding what systems they want to be able to access their content and so as we move into the agentic era the authors can now control if they want agentic systems to be able to automatically access and purchase content from them including if AI companies want to use their assets for training because up until this point AI companies have largely just scraped the open web and stolen Millions of journalistic assets that do have a value and from the journalistic side there's no denying the need for something like this to exist anymore so we're losing troves of human historical knowledge and so by decentralizing the process which is what CTRL+X is facilitating"],[116,"Yeah, you have questions, right? Like, what did he just drink? Why is he honoring his late shih tzu at a basketball game? Who are the people even being decentralized? What does that mean? Well, that's why I'm here. Let's find out."],[136,"New York doesn't ease you in. You step out and you're already in it. A few million strangers, all going somewhere all at once. I grew up a couple hours away in Tula, close enough that New York was never some distant idea. It was a city you took the bus to or trained to, a place I get to go and see my friends from high school and college. That's the thing about this city, it's stacked. Bodegas under glass towers, old New York holding up the new one, and most new people have no idea what the old one even looked like. Oh, not you, sorry. This time I linked up with some friends out here in the city."],[169,"People are already connected, already a part of what I came for, an Ethereum conference, The kind of room where we're negotiating where technology is going But before any of that, you eat, you walk You let the city remind you why people around the world dream of being here And somewhere between these streets and the conference floor That's where the story really starts My name is Maceo Whatley and I'm the founder of We Them Media Over the last five years, we've been researching how cryptocurrency And decentralized technology can empower everyday people around the world And that's why I attended the Ethereum conference in New York City a couple weeks ago"],[203,"to better understand and share with you all how Ethereum is working to show Wall Street it is ready to be the global settlement layer for financial systems. And we're here to show you what it means. Let's go. What's up, everybody? We're here at ETH Conference in Manhattan, New York. It's 2026. It's June 8th. And I'm here with Arikia Millikan, the founder of CTRL+X. How are you doing today? I'm great. How are you? I'm doing well. I'm excited to be here at BSM. I'm excited to be in New York. You're in from Berlin. And so what brings you to the ETH Conference this year? I was in New York City anyway. I try and get over here once a year. I used to live in New York, and I was gifted a conference pass by one of my advisors, so I thought, better come check out the scene."],[245,"Okay, and what are you working on? What has the scene be of interest to you? So I've been building CTRL+X for the past 10 years in various capacities. It started off as a research project, and I started building the software about two years ago with a team of developers in Berlin. And we are licensing journalistic assets on-chain and monetizing those assets with micropayment transactions. So we're really addressing this problem that's been plaguing the journalism industry for decades, where the industry has chosen monetization pathways through namely the advertising industry, data mining of readers, and most recently the subscription model. and those three models alone can't support what's developing and passing through the rails of the digital publishing industry."],[307,"So what CTRL+X does is enables readers to bypass the subscription model and access articles one at a time via micropayment transaction. because right now people are like hitting the paywalls and leaving or like we don't want to sign up and subscribe for one more thing they don't want the recurring payments and even if they do want to subscribe then they're not accessing the entire archives of a publication so it's always been a kind of like imbalanced problem and we're introducing a new revenue stream into the industry and allowing journalists to really take control over the maintenance of their own assets and so what i'm hearing is that now people as opposed to"],[360,"necessarily uh paying for like i wasn't i was a student writing college and we had like uh like where all the student journals are right we can go search through all the academia stuff but you're saying as opposed to subscribing for like that whole thing now i could pay for access specific like articles isn't one i publish and that person will receive that money or is that is that what you're describing or something different yeah so the creators do receive the funds directly which is also a product of using crypto rails for this because it's a peer-to-peer transaction that eliminates centralized intermediaries. Like, you know, we're all familiar with DeFi,"],[396,"so crypto eliminates the bank as a central intermediary. In the journalism world, the analog is that peer-to-peer transactions for article-based content eliminates the publication as a central intermediary. And that's important to do right now because the failures of the media industry's business models over the past 20 years has led to a financial collapse in the industry where publications are going out of business, going offline. The databases that hold the content in the Web2 ecosystem are changing hands then to The New Management or Just Being Completely Deleted If Nobody Wants To Pay For Their Maintenance Anymore So We're Losing Troves Of Human Historical Knowledge And So By Decentralizing The Process Which Is What CTRL+X Is Facilitating We're Enabling Authors To Maintain Their Own Archives And Then Transact With Those Archives From A Point Of"],[463,"like they're managing their own ownership and so they're deciding what systems they want to be able to access their content and so as we move into the agentic era the authors can now control if they want agentic systems to be able to automatically access and purchase content from them including if AI companies want to use their assets for training because up until this point AI companies have largely just scraped the open web and stolen millions of journalistic assets that do have a value. It's just not a value that's been honored by these companies up until now or up until they're forced in a court of law to have to pay copyright infringement seats out by the billions."],[518,"So this infrastructure has really been missing from the whole process and now it's gotten to a point where everything's kind of ready. All the industries have matured enough and from the journalistic side, there's no denying the need for something like this to exist anymore. So we're ready to blow it up. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. And why would you say, like, what do you think is, like, the biggest issue, right, with these losses of, like, human knowledge, right, like, these things disappearing, these archives disappearing, like, what do you feel like is the biggest, like, yeah, like, what's the biggest impact you see? I think there is something really concerning about the thought that in 50 years when we try and look back at this moment and figure out what happened, like, you know, from the news perspective, like how events actually unfolded or like all the context around that of like people observing reality as it's unfolding and understanding what else was going on around that moment."],[589,"I think we are in for sort of like a new dark ages if we let things keep declining at this rate because it's already happening at scale and there's also something a bit concerning happening with the Internet Archive lately which is kind of like the failsafe of the whole human knowledge economy because the Internet Archive creates Digital Backups of like mainly media sites as they're published but a lot of different other types of content to you and The Internet Archive acts as a sort of library. It's an archive. They know they don't own the rights to the content But they're also not selling it. So their role is to protect these content assets and"],[642,"What media companies are now doing in the dozens is they're they're telling the Internet Archive that they don't want them to archive their journalistic works anymore because they're seeing that AI companies are using Internet Archive as kind of like a portal to be able to scrape more effectively which isn't what it was designed for and so these AI companies are in violation of the Internet Archive and the media companies and the authors that they're scraping from but they're taking the kind of like Silicon Valley approach of better to ask forgiveness than permission. Move fast, break things into their business okay. Yeah so they're moving fast and potentially breaking the entire"],[692,"record of human knowledge in the process so if we don't figure out ways to decentralize the ownership and management of that knowledge base we're going to lose it and the implications questions are pretty dire. I mean, if we don't know what happened and what's happening as things continue to unfold, we just won't have a sense of reality to be able to make decisions and render democracies. Yeah, I agree. I think we'll be rendered kind of powerless. We don't know what environment we're navigating in the first place, so the fact that we're associated and get the kind of outcomes we want. I'm curious, why are you the person that solved this problem? So I have worked"],[733,"in the journalism industry for the past 20 years. It was my first real job in FreerProp although I did study engineering as well so I've always been kind of like in the middle which is a unique place to be in this industry not being just like on one side or the other but having a builder mentality and a journalistic mentality and understanding how the industry actually works and how different types of like writers and editors and all the different roles inside of a publication interact and so I started tackling this problem and kind of like visioning out the solution about 10 years ago because you don't want to just come to the table with the problem set and not give people a way forward because then that just causes a lot of like doom and panic and"],[793,"I wanted to make sure that like when I brought CTRL+X to market, it was in the form of a solution that was immediately able to offer resources for individuals working in an industry that's becoming more and more constrictive. So we're almost to that point now. We're raising our pre-seed funding round and yeah, I'm just like excited to be able to give back to this ecosystem that has been systematically denied access to technological resources that were outside of the advertising and data mining areas that would be like immediately profitable. because this is a project that looks at the long-term trajectory of content and is really"],[846,"building infrastructure that's meant to last for the ages. And so like I myself I don't necessarily do writing or I do this and so would I be someone that would use control x and if so how would that work? So in the initial phases we're focusing on the written word that's my specialty with just Just Being Able To Kind Of Like Work With It As A Craft And Process It But Eventually The System That We're Building Which Is A Content Licensing System At Its Core Will Be Able To Theoretically Interact With Any Type Of Content So We Could Have A Licensing Marketplace For Video Content For Short Form Video But Also Every Video"],[896,"that has speech happening also has a text-based component if you were to drive a transcript from that video and that transcript could have value in a marketplace."]]},{"id":"6JcW_wQyVWc","slug":"vfx-artist-on-grief-art-and-starting-over","title":"Kale, a VFX artist, on grief, her mom Sarah, and working on Marvel films","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"I want to get this. I turned it on again. Alright, no, it's not there. It's not there. It's a living thing. Yeah, it's literally, it's all this is all in the past right now. But no, I completely get like that quietness. Something I wanted to ask you, how do you break the silence?"],[15,"That's the thing. I don't feel like me too, honestly. I truly don't feel there's any meaning. If I, if something in me, if my mind and body both align, and it's like, oh, I'm genuinely, genuinely curious about learning more about so-and-so and everything is connecting, then yeah, I'm going to say something. But if my mind is just telling me like, oh my gosh, so-and-so said this, you've got to fulfill their ego or you've got to, you've got to like delve deeper, but like, truthfully, I don't fucking care. there's power yeah, but like if my body is like kind of like if I'm like if I'm like reaching in and if I'm like"],[56,"getting you know like all right I'm genuinely interested because there's two things you know I'm like very like oh cool really no you don't say oh how about that you know it's very artificial like oh okay just going with emotions it's not real it's no literally and that's my go-to oh okay I can hear it too. You can hear it. You can so hear it. It's like go away. Go the fuck away. Yeah, it's just like I'm literally doing this for you. I truly don't give a fuck though. But if I'm genuinely interested in something and I'll make my eye contact, I'm like, oh, really? Tell me more. So how did you feel? What brought you to this? What was going on? It's the what and how questions that are really thought provoking questions."],[101,"If you start a question with like, what is it, I think how is the biggest indicator, just like a binary answer, like, or not how, you know, some word out there that is slipping my tongue right now. Binary answer. Yeah, just a yes and a no. That means I don't give a fuck. If you're giving me a binary answer, I don't give a fuck. I think a why is a genuine thing Yeah, a why, yeah, exactly, the why is the biggest, I owe you, and sometimes why, that's the biggest one, why, why are you feeling this way, that will create stories and a genuine connection, and then that's when my body is reacting, my mind is reacting, every part of kale is reacting, every part of kale is reacting, all my parts, that's the other thing, I feel like that's an acronym, kale is an acronym"],[153,"Somewhere Yeah, I don't know, we're just conventional, and a fruit But I And a human being And a human being And an alien, and a life-form, and a creature An artist And a star, and a creator And I mean so many things Like I really, not knowing, I hate labels I hate just saying I'm I'm this or that Growing up I"],[181,"My Family Struggled With Mental Illness And Alcohol And Drug Addiction And My Mom She's Been In Rehab More Than I Have Fingers And She Was Always Looking For That Next Diagnosis Like Oh I Have Bipolar Or I Have Depression Or I Have anxiety Yeah Something Is Wrong With Me And It's Like No Nothing Is Wrong We all have different brains, and that's what's so beautiful about life. We all have a different way. We all have different experiences. We've all been through different shit. If we've all been through the same exact things, it would be so fucking boring. And I'm not trying to bring me too down here."],[232,"You're all good. But, yeah, unfortunately, my mom, she did This is authentic, no ma'am, no soul Yeah, no, no ma'am With a camera, who are you? Are you Kale? There's no camera here, I'm just Kale, talking to myself Because I'm my own best friend and I love talking to myself It's my most favorite conversation, just talking to myself in the wall No, talking to Kale But no, unfortunately, my mother, she didn't do this for battle with mental illness and she took her life about two years ago now, actually, yeah, about to be two years in less than a month now, and that's, thank you, I, yeah, I mean, it's, thanks for sharing"],[274,"that with us, yeah, it's, thanks for listening, um, it's, it's definitely been the hardest thing I've ever found through in my life, and it's put me through this big depression I've ever been through, all I did was drink and smoke and mask my pain and not heal with my trauma but yeah I'm just like now I'm like you know what I it made me who I am here and I just like so appreciate life now and Sarah with an H and I mean she was she was such a vibe and she truly was such a bright light in such a dark room and she she loved the"],[319,"connections with people and just getting to know people and like genuinely getting to know people, not listening to your binary answers, but listening to your story. What are you here for? What is your, why are you here on earth? And even if you didn't know at that time, whatever, she didn't know what her whole, yeah, I don't think she truly knew what her reason for being here on this planet was. and many different people told her you're here to be a mom of four, the oldest of four siblings you're here to be a mom, you're here to be a deadhead, you're here to cook for the rest of your life"],[367,"so many different people told her things that I don't think it's like Jack Nicholson in anger management Who are you? Well, I'm a dad, and now who are you? Yeah, who are you? Like, no, who are you to others who are you? What makes you you? And I don't think my mom is ever comfortable answering that question. She just couldn't. It was just like, it was just, it fried her brain, honestly. Whenever anybody, because she, yeah, she genuinely did not know who she was. She was someone, though. She was someone. She was, she was a lot, she was a lot of people. and I don't think she even realized that in herself and I think I mean yeah my mom she went through a lot in life a lot of abuse and neglect yeah just a lot but she didn't like I mean I want to say she didn't let it define her but I think it did where you know she was like I'm a strong woman I can do anything I can be a mom I can do this and that's true and yeah it's totally true but I don't know"],[437,"Well, she fully felt it, because her past really came into play, a lot. She could only just enter her mind and not her body, and her body was in pain a lot. She had to diagnose fibromyalgia and a lot of other things, but she let that define her. She was like, oh, I have fibromyalgia, therefore I'm in pain 24-7, and I can't be anyone else but this person in pain. That's all I am, is someone in pain. She took her pills or whatever to make her move down to that base level where maybe she could be Sarah, her authentic Sarah."],[482,"But she never, the pills just mask that true Sarah. It wasn't ever truly Sarah. It's like pills, I have such a hard time with pills A lot of people told me I should take them, I tried them I realized, holy shit, I'm not getting anywhere with this It's getting worse No way And you become so robotic So, yeah, back to the automatic thing Yeah, I've been on so many different pills in my life I couldn't even begin to And it comes down to A lot What's the one thing that fixes it without pills? Like you were saying Who Are You and doing the thing with you, like doing the thing that you do, it kind of fixes, it doesn't fix everything, but fixes the part where you need to build"],[533,"Just being okay with yourself in the now, it's just so much, we've been, every single human has been through so much, all of our experiences, like how does one person even take all of that in, you know There's so much going on. So much to integrate. Like, he's asking me, other people ask me, how was your day, what's going on? I'm like, if I tell you, if I bring this up in my own head, it's going to completely fuck up every year on the earth. As much as I want to tell you, yeah, where do I begin? Like, can we just do what we were meant to do today, please?"],[574,"And that's the thing, like, we're, yeah, we, I just, I want to get back to the automation."],[581,"I don't have to work 10 times harder because it's very uncomfortable. We're very comfortable with just like living in our comfort zone and like breaking out of that comfort zone is very uncomfortable. Like dealing with your trauma, dealing with your past."],[612,"Yeah, and that's okay, and there's, and that's okay, if your brain and body wasn't ready for it, then it wasn't, it would have had me bumped up Yeah, and you cannot force it, and You can't, that's true You know what you know right now when you need to know it Yeah"],[632,"I have a very hard time with my memory and I don't remember a lot of my past, whether it be from the drugs or alcohol or trauma, who's to say. But also, here's another food for thought. We see 24 frames per second, right? I'm sure you guys know that. I didn't I didn't I didn't know that Pictures Second"],[658,"Remember all that all the friends all those photos one day you can"],[667,"Is at one point I thought I saw Like a glimpse into 60 like what everything is without without the motion blur It's like, that's so weird. That is so weird. It's like, now I understand why the brain was set up that way for a reason, because it's more alive. It's more like alive. But if you're a 60 person, you'd feel like a freaking camera. You'd feel like a weird, slow motion camera. Not slow motion, actually more fast. Instead of having a blur, you'd just see it, not the blur. That's freaking it. It's, yeah, that's kind of why I love psychedelics, because you very much get in that mindset where you see every single thing you bring."],[712,"I don't know, what was I saying? I had a really big point that I... You keep sidetracking. You said a lot, and it's like, thank you, you know, I don't know. Yeah, no, I just, you know, I don't know. I think people just care too much about what others think of them, and I think we just stop that. You were just speaking about how much we experience in the course of our lifetimes, right? And to be able to integrate, to be able to really make peace with all of those things and still experience some freedom and ease, right? And not feel anxious or overwhelmed or, like, afraid."],[742,"It's acceptance. It's just acceptance. And that is really the first step, and it is the hardest step. By far, the hardest step. If you go back and forth, it's hard to actually accept. you'll accept it in a moment, then you won't accept it later, then you'll accept it again, then you won't accept it. Yeah, but even if you don't accept it now, again going back to like don't force anything. Not like your body will tell you, listen to your body. Your body will literally put tension in places. You're getting out of your gut. Yeah, your gut is your second brain, almost stronger than your brain at times."],[782,"But sometimes it's also just informed by trauma, right, it's not always, sometimes it's reacting to what it perceives as a threat, when such a threat might not ever be there, too, so I think sometimes it's about respecting your body, trusting it's also just about respecting, like, I know my body right now is having this overwhelming reaction, or it's in a freeze mode, you know, and there's nothing wrong with your freeze mode body, and sometimes it's hard to not feel that way. Sometimes I'll be like, I shouldn't be doing this, and then it turns out to be this thing I shouldn't be doing But, there's also, you have to, there's times when you're like, I know this is not chill, and like, whether you're not going to be bad for me, like, physically or, but it's like, I am wasting the whole time of who I am"],[823,"Yeah Why am I doing this? You're like, here, we'll be doing it for other people, and you're like, I shouldn't be doing this for other people Yeah"],[835,"yeah and yeah I mean to be honest I don't I don't know if I believe I don't know if I believe in the word waste I think I unless you abuse nothing no what do you want to say though what do you want to say I just I I truly think the universe has everything like I whatever that may What they mean to you, if that's a higher power, if that's your god, if that's many gods, whatever, there's definitely a higher power, somewhat, yeah, but I truly, like, I, you are in control of what you're in control of, you know, but like, sorry, but I believe somewhat of this, you just let her finish her statement though, let her finish, let her finish, it's okay, I, yes, you can spend your whole day doing scrolling,"],[886,"And Playing Video Games And Doing This Brain Rot Shit Whatever And It's Not You Know You May Think That You're Not Getting Anything From It But There's Probably Something In There Somewhere That You Are Going To Remember Some Little Thing Like I'm Not Gonna Lie I Doomscroll A lot All The Time I Mean I Don't Even Want To Think About How Many Hours I Spent On My Phone It's Sad Really I Mean Yeah it makes me sad to think about, but I get something out of it. It might be the smallest little thing, but it might be one TikTok video or silly little meme that I see that in the moment I'm not thinking of, just something that I see in that moment that I will take with me in the future. Again, I'm not thinking of it at that moment. There are so many times I'm like, oh my God, I just spent so many hours."],[946,"looking at my phone, then the next day my co-worker, friend, family member, whomever, some random person maybe even, will bring something up where I'm like, oh my god, I literally saw this yesterday on my phone, like I saw this, like I know what you're talking about, and then you're able to have a conversation with whatever, with something that maybe you never even thought you could have a conversation with, but since you just saw that stupid little video for 10 seconds it did something in your brain and to be honest most of it 99% of it I don't remember I feel like it's kind of diluting culture though by creating these like artificial shared experiences"],[988,"I feel like it is diluting some of the meaningfulness of those things like memes or what are memes replacing the ritual Yeah, yeah, thank you. Okay. Yeah, just let's just let it just let it sit. It's cool, but But yeah, I won't even take us off on some philosophical tangent at this moment But I wanted to hear you talk about your art and yourself as a stop-motion artist and VFX Like I said, this is you kind of introducing yourself to our lore as a creator-driven agency Yeah, well, hello out there, all y'all out there"],[1031,"Hello everyone, my name is Kale, I'd like to think of myself as a creative, I mean I think everybody is creative at heart, my main passion in life is definitely animation and seeing life frame by frame, photography as well, my bread and butter, for sure like stop-motion with a little bit of VFX in there. I love me some practical VFX, you know life is all about a balance, and I know that we're no longer in the 80s, and it's not all camera work, and we do have to rely on our robots and technology. I respect the robots, I don't want to make them too mad, so they don't overturn."],[1082,"Yeah, you don't want them coming for you, right? Exactly. You don't want to be on the list. Yeah, I don't want to be on anybody's list. Um, yeah, I used to work in GFX right out of school for three years for a company called Love of GFX. Um, and, yeah, we specialize in, uh, hang on, sorry, pause. I don't know how much I can say about this company. Well, you can, like, skip, like, skip to what you feel comfortable saying. The video will not be edited, so just like don't say stuff you don't want to say. So this is perfect I used to work for a VFX company, super fun. I used to work on Hollywood films, Got My Name and Mission Impossible Part 1, Part 2"],[1130,"What? Marvel movies, I don't know, it's fancy Marvel? Big time, big time Yeah, it was pretty cool, it was pretty cool Trad artist Yeah, it's Yeah, it was it was pretty fun stuff"],[1159,"Terms like opportune moment"],[1173,"Oh my, yeah, that was actually, that was at Field of Vision, my boy is King Gizzy Um, but yeah, I, sorry, it's really hard for me to like admit that I'm a creative because I didn't believe it for such a long time and I just kind of, I just made art for me and, uh, yeah, I would make it when I'm angry or when I was sad or, uh, it was my and I release for a really long time and I think everybody needs to release our, everybody has a different term for it, but I just, I call it your metal, you know, life is all about"],[1216,"a balance, you are in your fluid state and you're in your very mechanical, rigid state and you just kind of want to come together and live in that grey zone and sometimes I I can be really up here and just silly, laughy, goofy, not giving a fuck about the world, you know, have to be brought back down and I gotta release that metal or alkaline or rigidness or whatever. And yeah, art creating was a big part of that for me. I grew up a lot with ceramics and throwing on the wheel and additive ceramics, just like adding little pieces, sort of like so much so I have another question yeah if you can work what's like the dream kind of stuff you want to work on"],[1264,"But where's the destination or what's the journey rather"],[1276,"Okay, yeah"],[1282,"Okay, we appreciate that invitation yeah, it is It's getting a little chilly Gosh, what is my dream? Where's the gentleman in me? I'm like, I'm putting on the zip of my coat I can say you want to sit inside? But I guess it was louder before, but continue It's quite loud in there You know, this is a really hard question for me Because I think about this every single day Where do I want to be with my art? You get the spitball though, you know, there's no like real destination, right? They're just like, the universe will take you where it's gonna take you at the end of the day"],[1319,"The universe will take you where it takes me and we're so money driven, you know, we're always, here's a memory that just popped up, you know, with my boys playing right here, it's perfect, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, I saw them at Field of Vision last year in beautiful Buena Vista, Colorado, and it was a really, it was a very difficult time for me, this was the first show I had ever done by myself, completely solo, first festival I've ever even been to also no that's it yeah I just gotten out of a serious breakup I had just moved back to Colorado I had just sold my"],[1362,"house oh wow own a house my VFX jobs pay me very nicely but everything just completely turned upside down started completely from the bottom bottom the The only way you can go is up. But I haven't created anything at this point for so long. It's probably like six months at this point. Never picked up a paintbrush, a pen, pencil, whatever. Nothing. It was very automatic. Go home. Play video games. Probably get drunk. I wasn't creating anything. Then I went to this show and I... The first night was very rough, I'm not gonna lie. I did not like it. I struggled in many different ways. setting up a tent all by myself. Very difficult setting up a 10-person tent with one person."],[1414,"Yeah, that's insane. And also it was raining and it was windy. It was horrible. I literally, I was like two hours in and I was like, you know what, I think I'm just going to go home. I'd have just gotten in my car and turned on the heat and said, I'll see you in the morning. But I just like, something told me, the universe told me like, hey, just stick with it. Something's out there for you. I was like, all right. Better than me. I guess fine, I'll stick with it I mean the first night was horrible I'm not even going to get into that right now"],[1443,"But you know that it was horrible But then the second day I woke up And it was such a bright day Not a cloud in the sky And I felt so alive And I was like, you know what I'm just going to listen to my boys, King Gizzy I'm just going to start making art I'm just going to start sketching and I did and I sketched for hours and hours and hours and filled a whole notebook just filled with shit. I mean actually some of not shit that's yeah I mean it is shit but it was it's good shit healthy shit but I just I anything that was in my head or I was you know having conversations with the universe I'd like write a question and like look up listen to the universe she would tell me something like write a"],[1494,"down and have a question right down and it's just like it's full feedback system and what was I getting to? Fuck, I had a really good point in fits. Yeah, I just like started, oh, money, that's what I was getting to. I was creating and I filled a whole sketchbook filled with just like Posca markers, very vibrant colors, very like psychedelic art. These people came by me and they like saw what I was working on and I probably looked like a crazy person I mean, I literally had paint splattered all around me Perfect place, Nick Yeah, like I literally was just like, nobody talk to me, I'm like Bob Ross right now"],[1537,"But somebody like took me out of my like flow And they're like, oh my gosh, dude, cool art, you should sell that And I You know, I was like Yeah, I just like had such a Such a weird feeling Such a different feeling I've never had And I was like, hey, you know what I appreciate what you're saying I know what you're saying, you're saying this art is like So cool and so People want this But you know, I just like, you know I had to be grateful in that moment You know what, I hear you But this is for me right now This is not for monetary value"],[1574,"I'm not trying to get anything out of this. I'm not trying to make a quick. It's my release. I just want to release Exactly, I just want to get my metal out of me You know, it was just like a quick like thank you I see you but I got to do me and I went like right back into it. I don't care what y'all think But like old me would have never been like that like I would have been like yeah You're so right like I could sell this for ten bucks like hey everybody get get your hey Hey, one of a one kind, Kale, print here, right here, hot and ready to go."],[1611,"You got so much energy. The screen is waiting for you. Hey, screen. But that's just like, that's not what I'm about. I think money is truly the root of all people. And my whole family, they've kind of struggled with money and are very much like, how are we going to make a quick buck? My grandma, she loves to go to garage sales and find something for a dime and flip it for a dollar She's the original Gary Vee She very much is"],[1645,"I grew up with it and I respect it I understand that the world we live in, we do have to make money somehow and income somehow And I've accepted it But I'm not gonna force it Yeah You Know and I'm not gonna Well it's perfect we just met up and like Synchronicity universe just working She works in mysterious ways And I think that's why I really Had a difficult time I might be When I was working for my VFX studio So I'd put all My creative energy and juices In doing What the client the director Whomever told me what to do Give me notes and then I'd get home and I'd have no energy, no motivation to create anything for myself."],[1691,"It was all like, okay, how can I make money off of my art? A speeding Mini Cooper wasn't on my list. Very Italian job. Never seen that before, I checked that off the list. But yeah, I know I did not like creating art for such a... I just had no satisfaction for many years because I put all my energy into my job and making a quick buck and yeah it just wasn't enjoyable art wasn't enjoyable for me for a long time but yeah now I'm at a point where I'm just you know working a minimum wage kitchen job job where I'm vibing I love the people I work with I'm not so trained at the end of the day and I can go home and I do my doodles I"]]},{"id":"Cyv1UwE_K3w","slug":"why-a-job-stopped-adding-up-germantown","title":"“The numbers don’t add up to work for nobody.” Mr. P on Haines Street","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[1,"All right. So my name is Maceo. That's my name. I live right down by Germantown High School. Not anymore, but, and this is for We Them Media. He said it's happening."],[14,"What's your name, man?"],[17,"Mr. P Moving and Hauling. Okay, get with him. He's doing, he's got business."],[31,"and I got a white van. I had a box truck at one point, but I had to downsize because I was moving too fast. I had to learn. That's what I had to learn. But what's the question? Well, I can relate to that to be honest. You know, I've been doing content for like three years. I had a podcast. My podcast is We Them Niggas. I was interviewing black people in crypto. I wanted to work in my music. It didn't work out. People tell me I sound racist even saying the word nigga. So I was getting checked all over the place. My YouTube is We Them Media."],[59,"We Them, like We Them Niggas, and now it's We Them Media, right, and, but the thing is, right, my media project, it didn't work, my videos weren't edited, they never came out, I went to like a slave trade museum in Nigeria, interviewed like a guy who runs it, he's like a Yoruba dude, that video's not on the internet, imagine, I've done like all these interesting things, but the videos never came out, and I made like over 100k, this guy gave me a lot of money through crypto, shout out to CY, but, I was moving too fast, and just like, wow, I get to go to another country, and smoke weed, boom, there I go, there I go,"],[87,"So now I got no money and I'm back, but now I'm thinking the fundamentals do a lot more"],[96,"But the beauty, right, is that now I have friends all over the world, right, and so it's like I have an audience internationally, even if it's small, right, who if I do interesting, meaningful things, like I believe will want to support me, and so I feel like what's cool is that like with this content, like they've never been to Philadelphia, they're probably never going to come to Philadelphia and walk down Haynes Street, right, and so now I get to bring them down Haynes Street anyway, and we get to think about the USA, think about about Germantown, think about Philadelphia. And like, we have people in Nigeria"],[120,"going out and asking questions too. We've been doing like a hundred bucks a week. So we have people go out in Nigeria, shout out Kafani. Shout out to, I do care. I can't think of his name right now. And John Bayo. So it's been sick, honestly, right? And so I'm trying to think, how can we kind of step into being like community journalism, community news, with just people walking down the street. So you could be like the community newscaster. Like, oh, you heard, what's your name again? Mr. P moving to Holland. See, you heard Mr. P moving to Holland and let us know what's going on, right?"],[146,"All right, that could be what they're saying about you because you're going out asking questions from WeTheMedia. I'm going to subscribe on the channel, though. You going to find it? God, yeah, I said I'm going to subscribe. Oh, yeah, let's go. Give me the 1,000. I got like 138 right now. But the question, right, the question is, what do you think about the USA today? And if that feels like, I don't know a lot about politics, like, I feel like I'm still figuring out politics. You can say what you think about Philadelphia, right? You live here. You have experience here. All right, listen, this is not going to be a popular opinion, though."],[178,"But my whole thing is Trump breaking everything down just so it could be greater. People just don't want to go through the process. That's the same thing with business, period. Like people right now, now people call on my phone because they see the business is growing. But ain't nobody was there when I started the business. I believe like the things that I'm using on a smaller scale, but Trump is using them on a bigger scale. I believe that formula works anywhere and people just don't want to be patient and get through the tough times. Amen. So I don't know if I believe Trump doing a good job. I just ain't"],[217,"got no proof. You just got to wait and see the results of it. That makes sense. That makes sense. That's the way I look at it. So I don't look at it like it's a bad thing. I just. If you could ask Donald Trump some questions, what questions would you ask him? This ain't going to be popular neither But I don't know if I'm crazy or not That's okay I believe Trump just woke up one day And said I'm going to take over the world And I believe he accomplished his goal Like that's like A high scale I don't want nothing to do with that scale"],[251,"But that's all I'm trying to do within business Is Actualize Yes, that's all I want to do Is make it happen I believe he That's why I respect him so much Tap in with Mr. P, moving and hauling. He got a hot dog stand. My girlfriend says I eat too many hot dogs. Yo. One more ain't going to hurt nobody. I mean, I'm not, I'm going to eat more hot dogs. It doesn't matter. I went to save a lot last night and bought more hot dogs. That's cool, bro. They going to kill my comment or something about that, bro. They going to hurt me, bro, but it's cool, though."],[282,"I mean, I think they can't say that much, right? Like, here you are trying to have your business. You got two businesses. You got this. You got to move in and hauling, right? So, like, what can they really say? Right. What stream of incomes are they creating for themselves? That's the real question. We could go deep about this though. I just had a job. I'm working for the trash truck company in Jersey. And they was paying me $18 an hour. And when I got my check, it was $671 the whole week. But they don't understand it cost me $400 to get to work. So at the end"],[311,"of the day, I was doing all that work for $200. The math is no way in the world it adds up. How did you get to work? Oh, I was driving a van, but it was an hour away because it was in Jersey So it was $30 a day in gas So I'm working 5 days a week, that's $150 And then you gotta think about it, I smoke cigarettes You know what I mean? So I buy cigarettes every day, then I eat lunch All that stuff add up, so at the end of the day, I'm paying y'all to work up for y'all I can't pay my bills like that, it's not possible"],[340,"So then in the beyond, I believe Trump is given the, I think Trump is where everybody to get off their butt and just go to work and just do what they got to do instead of working for the next person and stuff like that because he, I believe he opening, I believe he's giving me opportunities. I ain't going to lie because a whole lot of laws being passed that's not helping the average person, but it's helping me because I understand what they talking about because I'm into that type of stuff. I pay attention to a little bit more than the average person when it comes to business you mean yes because that's what I want to do"],[378,"the numbers don't add up for me to work for nobody what kind of business do you feel like would make the biggest difference if germantown people own for themselves i know i just came up with that question right now and i'm a little bit drunk"],[391,"but whatever comes to mind you feel like it's housing it's strength in numbers period so if For everybody to get together, there's no way everything couldn't be done and everything would be better. That's the way I look at everything. So, but what specifically- I guess, what could we come together and buy that would make the biggest difference? We wouldn't have to pay anybody else anymore. Life insurance. Life insurance. Okay. I like that. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Life insurance. He said we need our own financial products in general. Okay, financialinstruments.com. Come get with us. Mr. P Financial Instruments Yo He like a computer when he say that"],[437,"Yo, you gonna put this out? Yeah, it's gonna be on YouTube before I get to Transili They're probably closed, honestly"],[446,"And I'm subscribed, so I'm just gonna see it Let's go Bro, that's all I got Bro, they gonna kill me about this Trump thing But I ain't gonna lie, I'm riding, bro I ain't drunk, I'm in No, but I think it's cool, right? Because people get to hear where you're coming from, right? Like, you're a business owner and you're thinking about how do I sell the actual eyes, right? They get to see what you're talking about. Like how you see Donald Trump is Donald Trump said one day I'm going to run the world. And Donald Trump, he's telling everybody I run the world at least once a week."],[472,"He's on Twitter saying I run the world, you know, make some work. OK, talk about it. Talk about it. OK, go ahead. He said no."],[497,"So talk about it. Talk about it. How do you perceive Trump? And how do you think about what he's doing and stuff? It's cool because people get multiple perspectives."],[518,"business man, but everybody think he a bad business man, bro. That's all I want to be is a good business man. That's all I want to be. I can't, I don't see nothing else. I ain't going to lie. I got tunnel vision. He can't, damn, he can't do no wrong with my eyes. I ain't going to lie because he said he was going to take over the world and not be saying the same thing. I'm not trying to take it over like he did, but I'm trying to take over some type of industry to take care of my family and like secure everything. My future is not secure right now. That's all I'm doing everything for is to secure it, bro."],[547,"and so that's me, we survived it, it's not supposed to be like that, I don't have a lot of subscribers so y'all are some of my first I've been honestly only doing interviews on my walk there and then I walk and save a lot so I haven't done I've done many interviews in Germantown. But you got a mother place in, bro. Yeah, from Denver. Yeah, yeah. I'm right there. But I went to school downtown. I know. He said, really? I know. Oh, yeah, it's because I hide in my house. What do you mean you hide in your house? How old are you, bro? You can't."],[599,"Yes, yes, yes. Let's get some guesses. Like 30. Okay, I'm in the middle. I'm 26. Is that the middle? That's good enough. I don't think that's the middle, but it's okay."],[611,"Oh, yeah, yeah, but that's cool. Charlie, if you blow up one day, that means I'm going to blow up one day. Yeah, the whole point is that like, yes, without a question, but you're my neighbor. So, you know, the question is, how do we, how do we improve Germantown? So if I blow up one day, I'm still going to be in Germantown. I think they should support the hot dog cart. Okay. I mean, I've been shouting that out. Shout out to the hot dog cart. Talk about it. We got Pit Stop 215, Pit Stop 215. Get on Instagram, get on Facebook, get on Twitter. No, no, that ain't the right thing."],[650,"I came up here two days ago and it was like that. That's what I'm saying. I ain't get to it yet. I'm just trying to make my, I'm a struggling business owner. I hear it. I hear it. You're out here though. You're out here. You're not in the house like me. He's taking it off. No, listen, if you come outside more, I'll hang with you. Come up here and we can just talk about it."],[673,"Okay. I like that. Oh, really? That's how I'm feeling about the content this whole summer. I'm trying to put Philly on the map. That's my whole goal. I'm going to be walking all over Philly just like this. I need to get a real camera, but I feel like if I get it, if I look like if I get a real camera, I look more like a lick. So I'm like, if I walk around my phone, I look more broke. I don't know, but I stay in the house. People really think that about food when it's really not. Mmm, okay. It's just, you know, people going through what they're going through."],[707,"Yeah, that's real. There's water all over the world. There's two bags and this thing. But, my man right here. There was like a kid like this big. Last year. I've tried to play pick up with him. I hadn't showered in like three days, I'm not going to lie. I've been in the house. I've just been on my computer smoking weed, doing nothing else but sitting on my computer trying to get work done, stressed. And I come outside and I think I went to the corner store over there. And I went to get a soy and a hoagie and I'm walking back and I see them playing pickup basketball. I said, I'm not good at basketball. I said, Oh, let me play. Let me play. I fell on this dude. I went up. He like ran under my legs doing a layup and I sat on top of him. This kid's like 12 years old. He gets up pissed. Don't touch me. Why are you talking to me like that? And then the next day I come out, I'm going to the store. I'm on the phone. He said, I'm going to fight you right now. And I'm like, damn, now there's a 12 year old who wants to fight me in Germantown. So my concern is just going to be a 12 year old trying to bitch me for my, for my little $600 camera. When all I want to do is go up on YouTube."],[761,"You gotta come up here with your camera, bro. I believe you're gonna be all right. I don't have a camera. No, where'd you get one? I like that. I like that. Yeah, where'd you get one? You think I should get a camera or a new phone? I think you should do a camera. That's an investment. I think you're gonna make more money for the camera. Always investing yourself. Never hesitate to invest in yourself."],[781,"Bro, you gotta come back tomorrow. We're gonna make more content. Tomorrow? Yep, and I'll give you a story. Okay. I'll give you a story. Well, whenever you come back, I'll be here. It's okay. I mean, I'll come out tomorrow. You tell me I should come out every day. You're going to be right here? Yeah, I'll be here. Like, what time should I come? Oh, you're calling my bluff, ain't you? Yeah, yeah, definitely."],[801,"Anytime before midnight."],[806,"Anytime before, no. Let's say, I'm closing at 8 o'clock every day. Okay, okay. So, come between 3 and 8 every day out here. Okay, see, that's a window I can work with. I like that. My Google Calendar has a big it's not really a big open space, but I have an open space I do a lot of calls. I do a lot of calls So I got some friends who I met through crypto the last couple of years who are doing content with me Okay, yeah"],[834,"So I mean my goal after college I wanted to understand crypto I make crypto first the first money I made in crypto I made from being like an early user on a certain application and they give out like rewards for being early user I mean eight thousand dollars because I did like one thing on the website And I said, damn, where'd this money come from? Because $8,000, I never had $8,000."],[855,"I mean, that's the thing. You don't have to download $8,000. You should get down with a wallet. He probably got the key to life. He don't even know it. No, but that was timing. That was God's timing, too, because I didn't even know. You know what I bought? I bought We Them Niggas.Eth. Is this he might have? People can send me crypto at We Them Niggas.Eth. It's expired right now, though, but watch these niggas try and buy it from me. What did you say? You can buy crypto. Crypto is honestly down right now. It's not financial advice, but I believe in Bitcoin. You can buy some Bitcoin right now."],[886,"You can buy some more Bitcoin right now. It's down right now, like I just said."],[891,"If you got some Bitcoin, I'm happy for you, but it's down right now. It's because you didn't sell it. You should buy some more. I mean, I think it's going to change the whole world."],[900,"Yeah, yeah. If I could afford a camera, I would also be able to afford some Bitcoin. But it's coming soon. It's coming soon. But right now, I'm just trying to be consistent. Like I said, we got some people. I have my social media manager. Shout out Gishy's in Nigeria. They got clipping my videos. I have a podcast called Let's Talk About Ethereum. Ethereum's number two crypto. My guy clipping it. He's in Kenya. Shout out Fidesio. You think I'm an AI bot? Why is that? Because you talking like a robot, bro. I just talk fast and like a white person. That ain't no excuse. Who are you talking about?"],[937,"That's an explanation. I don't think I talk like an A.I. If the A.I. talks like me, I guess that's flattering because the A.I. is smart. Yeah, you probably the smartest person in the world, bro. That's definitely not true. I've been around the world, though, and I met a lot of smart people. And I know a lot of smart people. So the question is, can we get the smart people behind We Them Media so we can come and make a difference in places we want to make a difference? You haven't met somebody like him, bro? What is he talking about? The world? Are you political, right?"],[969,"I would say that I am political."],[976,"Okay, so why you come back here? This is a big, bad place, bro. Don't come back, bro. Why do you come back? So when you leave the country, why do you come back to this corporation? So, you know, that's a good question. Like, I was in Nigeria for three and a half, two and a half months last year. Last month, they only had 20 hours of electricity in Nigeria, and there was over 100 degrees on a lot of days."],[1002,"But can you imagine?"],[1006,"and you think you think you think employment is bad here? Employment there is terrible and everything is super expensive. The people there, they choose between internet, electricity and what they're going to eat today. They might have one meal today. But I'm just saying you think like it's hard to figure out how to be a successful business owner here and take care of your family. Like people are there. They're just rolling with it. Like they're just rolling. They're like, they don't even be like, they're like, yeah, I guess like, let me just, let me have kids, you know, let me chill out. Like, let me have a lot of"],[1033,"kids. Matter of fact, that's like rolling a dice. I'm about to put a hundred pieces on a board. That's how people think about it, I think, to be honest. And maybe that sounds crazy and maybe you all are offended by that, but I feel like, I don't mean you, but I mean like people in Nigeria, I feel like there are people who are just thinking about like it's odd. So it's not even like, I didn't feel like they have a choice. They don't even know they have power to have their kids be successful. So I might as well have a couple, not a couple hundred kids, but I might as well have a lot of kids. And a lot of kids can just mean I have different wives,"],[1063,"You were in the village? Definitely not, I was in the city. I was definitely not in the village. Well, that's what I'm saying, right? A lot of my friends are in the capital of Nigeria, Abuja. And last month, a lot of people only had 20 hours of electricity. 30 days. 31 days. 20 hours. That's not even one hour a day. It's because the electricity grid runs on gasoline. But some people are saying there's violence happening. It's like a cover for stuff going on. It's a crazy time."],[1097,"Yeah, but the question is, how do you make the most of it, right?"],[1105,"In a lot of ways, yeah."],[1109,"I mean, just to be able to earn your wages in dollars is a privilege, to be honest, right? A lot of people, they wish they could earn in dollars. Who is Uncle Sam? Tell me."],[1118,"Who is Uncle Sam? I think Uncle Sam is just the people who benefit the most from the choices the government makes."],[1128,"No, no, no. I think there are people who know exactly who they are. But I believe there is a deep state. You know what people should do? Stop thinking the government really run this shit. We really run this shit. I think they bluff us out. They do. Social media, they give us shit and we be satisfied. Satisfied for a little thirst. Satisfied for a little thirst. And then, I mean, they fuck us."],[1164,"We Need Welfare. That's for the white people came off of white people. He got big in all the black people. No, we know how to survive. They just hate on our survival skills. That's wrong. I'm telling you, that's why you think taxes came. Black people know how to survive. So what kind of job do you think I should get this summer? I need a job. I was thinking about going to the Boys and Girls Club. See, listen, that's your problem right there. You're thinking about working. Nah. I have like $300. I need to start working. I need a job before I run out of dollars."],[1205,"Business though, incorporate yourself. It's We Them Worldwide, LLC. But I can't even afford all the bills. What's this YouTube channel for? What are you saying? That's all you can, right? No, the Pennsylvania people sent me like four bills. I'm like, what are these bills for? I didn't do anything yet. I didn't make any money. Like, you don't want money from the money I made. $200 bill, $150 bill. I said, I might not even have an LLC anymore. It might have expired. I don't even know. But I paid for it, apparently."],[1244,"I didn't write down anything. So what do you think I should get a job doing? You think I should get a job doing what? I think you should come up here and work the hot dog cart. Okay, you'll pay me to work the hot dog cart? Yes, how much would you like to get paid? $15 an hour. So... Really? Yeah. Okay, bro. I'm not bluffing. I'mma sell the fuck out of these hot dogs."],[1268,"You want a hot dog! How much hot dogs? $3. Okay. Hot dog, $3. I'mma sell more than $5 hot dogs an hour, I promise. and we're gonna be on my YouTube. We're about to blow up the cart. I'm about to sit this thing right here."]]},{"id":"4Us2-ohD21k","slug":"black-women-as-the-most-important-global-issue","title":"Gigi, from Mississippi, on Black women, safety, and what matters most","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"I hear that. Well, what's up? My name is Maceo. I'm here for We Them Media and for poidh. We're here in Denver, Colorado. Yeah, yeah, let's respect this guy. He's doing it. And I'm here with you. What's your name? Gigi. It's nice to meet you, Gigi. Nice to meet you, too. And so you're here in Denver, Colorado. Are you from Denver? I'm not from Denver. I'm originally from Mississippi. Okay. And how do you think about Denver as compared to Mississippi? That's a big question. I'll give you my quick answer, but it'll say a enough. Denver is livable. I'm speaking from a black woman's perspective. Always. So Denver is livable to me as a black woman. I feel more safe here. But being in Mississippi, I feel like that gave me a better foundation for the type of person that I am. So I feel like this the type Denver is the type of place that you bring your persona to not kind of where you develop it. Does that make sense?"],[63,"So, yeah, thank you. Thank you. I have another question. So the weekly like this weekly bounty system thing that I'm doing, it's like in the crypto space. This guy, he puts up like $100 bounty every week and we've been encouraging people around the world to participate. So last week we had somebody in India, somebody in Kenya, somebody in Nigeria submit. And this week so far we have somebody in Las Vegas, somebody in New Jersey who are submitting, somebody in Nairobi and then myself as of yet."],[95,"Well, each week we ask a different question and we're trying to essentially get people around the world to get into a practice of going out and asking people questions. And then we come back and discuss what answers we got to that question. I think that's really amazing what you're doing. Hearing people's just thoughts on around us. I think that's very beautiful. Yeah, thank you. And so this week's question is, what is the most important global issue today? Oh, man, I'm probably about to get attacked for this, but I'm I like to speak my mind. The most important, I mean, downright most important issue, globally, locally, globally, at any given time"],[138,"throughout history, unfortunately and fortunately, is black women. Okay, talk about it. We birthed, we are the mothers. We are mothers, even when we aren't mothers, we are mothers."],[154,"How we are is a reflection of everything."],[167,"If you if you're not taking care of us, nothing's being taken care of. And that's just what it is because we're mom. My daughter that I that I speak of, she's she's my niece. I've never actually given birth, but I've raised her since she was she came out into my hands. Um, yeah, we are mothers. Is your sister? Is it your sister's daughter? No, I'm not."],[192,"Yes, so yes, black women are the most important thing What would you say to help us understand how you see the experiences of the black women who come before you in your family or in your life, maybe, right? The women you looked up to growing up Who are those black women? Who is taking care of them? How do you see those practices today versus then? Are we getting better? Are we doing worse? Are the things we're not learning fast enough as black men Yes, that's so cute. I think within, I would say just within the last six months, I feel like black men and people are starting to become more aware of what the, what the foundation is of things. But I would say for me, I mean, the way I am is because of the black women I have met. I would say that my mother wasn't the best mother, but there were so many other black women that I ran into out"],[250,"in a world that was such a mother figure to me um I know that how they are with me that it's so many other black women out there just like pouring into people like they they're their kids and they they don't have no ties to these people most black women do this most of us um we come from families where we even when we are kids we are mothers and we just we keep doing it until we fall yeah so my sister was my babysitter well see right so I don't think people know the energy that goes into that until you start seeing things collapse but even when you see things collapse you still can't put your figure on why these things are collapsing to me it's because you're not taking care of your women and your most important women your elders black women are the elders"],[307,"But I don't care if they're 12. If she black, she your elder. I'm not playing. You better treat her right. Don't talk crazy to no black woman. I don't care if she's one. I don't care if she's 99. She is a mother in the making or already a mother. So be kind to her. and she's gonna be the person that, you know, feed you, help you stretch your legs when you get your little hamstring, feed you, teach you how to flip over a poke chop and all these things, help teach you how to read a book and oh my god, just all the things, all the"],[343,"things."]]},{"id":"iq2RZffD-6E","slug":"bybit-kenya-mascot-on-getting-paid-to-dance","title":"Bybit Kenya’s dancing robot","place":"Nairobi","who":"Aziz","paras":[[0,"Hi guys. So, we're here at the Bybit crypto content creator uh um connect and we're here with one of the most amazing talents that we've come across. He's a guy that hasn't been in the crypto space, but he's now making money and value out of the crypto space. He is the mascot for Bybit in Kenya and we're just going to ask him his experiences with Bybit. Hi, what's your name? My name is uh the dancing robot and I'm a content creator and uh I just enjoy engaging with Bybe Africa."],[35,"So how has been your experience with Bybe and also you're not a crypto person are you? I'm a crypto person in terms of content. Yes,"],[43,"but mostly I do dance. Yeah. Okay. So how is your experience is is cryptocurrency bringing opportunities for talent like yours? Yeah. Yeah. for content creators. Join crypto. Be a cryptoc currency content creator. You'll earn a lot. Promise me you'll earn a lot. Amazing. So, we're here at the Buybit Bit Crypto Connect at in Nairobi at the Antler. So, if you missed out, please follow their channels. Follow what they're doing. Follow the Crypto Robot. He is an amazing talent. You're going to see some of his content on the videos like Double Tap. What are your handles on social media for people who want to follow you?"],[84,"On Tik Tok, this is the dancing robot or Bumblebee Kenya and Instagram dancing robot 59. Thank you. Support talent in Africa. support talent in Kenya and support pibbit."]]},{"id":"PdxBcoAEyVo","slug":"coffee-farming-financed-on-chain-project-mocha","title":"Coffee on the blockchain. Project Mocha","place":"Nairobi","who":"Aziz","paras":[[0,"Let me double tap. Already record. Hi guys. We're here at the by bit event uh the content creator connect and we're here with project mocha that has been serving up the coffee and the mood at the event. We're here with Peter Miner. Please come through. Uh please introduce yourself."],[23,"Hi everyone. My name is Peter Miner, co-founder at Project Mocha. Amazing. How was the event for you today? Uh, fantastic. The crowd was energetic. I love the whole ambience about it. Yeah."],[36,"So, what do you have? I mean, what what are your aspirations for partnering with uh bybit towards the future of crypto and adoption of the blockchain?"],[45,"Okay. Having a personalized approach like even for us, we are introducing um financing to coffee farmers through blockchain and hopefully our token will be on my bits. So crypto is passion pollutionless. So introducing farmers to blockchain and having by walk this journey with us be fantastic."],[64,"Amazing. So what are you going to be doing? What are you guys doing? How can we get to be more involved with what you guys are doing at Project Mocha?"],[72,"So we're creating opportunity for coffee consumers to become coffee investors by directly investing into coffee farms. So go to our website project.com and start investing in coffee farming. So, if you haven't jumped into the blockchain yet and you'd like to be part of the blockchain, this is a project that you should support. This is an opportunity for you to make money passively. Thank you. And this is Aziz at the Antler for the Bybit content creator connect. Thank you guys. So much."]]},{"id":"F-vrPxqAwHY","slug":"why-africa-has-few-crypto-creators-chasing-mavericks","title":"Chasing Mavericks CEO on crypto creators","place":"Nairobi","who":"Aziz","paras":[[0,"A is Moto Moto here. We are here at the Bybit event and we're going to be talking to the organizer. We're here at Ankla. Her name is Sheila Wasa, the CEO of Chasing Mavericks. Sheila, join us, please."],[12,"Hi. How are you doing? I'm fine, thank you. How are you? I'm fine. Would you like to introduce yourself? Yes. My name is Sheila Wasam. I'm the CEO Chasing Mavericks. We are a platform that powers blockchain innovation and adoption across Africa."],[23,"Amazing work. I love what you've been doing at uh the bybit and I can see that there's a lot of opportunities. Would you like to tell the people at home what the opportunities are?"],[31,"Yes. Yes, definitely. So today particularly we did the bybe x chasing mavericks content creators mixer or connect. And the idea behind this is to create content creators on crypto right because we have few of those. We have influencers on fintech. We have influencers on fashion but we have very little when it comes to to crypto. So we are taking advantage of the many influencers that we have um on Tik Tok, on Instagram, on X and how they can be able to monetize uh with Bybit."],[63,"Okay. So how would people that are interested in participating in this campaign be able to participate? Yes, definitely. So we have the it's called the Bybit affiliate partner, right? So you can be able to go to the ByBit website, uh check it out and definitely sign up. I think it's, you know, open for everyone at the end of the day, but the more followers you have, the better. And I think it's an opportunity where the early movers will we we we will will reap the most because it's still very new."],[92,"Amazing. So, we're here with Sheila. Follow her on social media. Follow Chasing Mavericks. Follow by bit K and get a chance to collaborate and make money with crypto. Thank you."]]},{"id":"oeJDSQV8aFI","slug":"has-the-internet-made-information-easier-nairobi","title":"Has the internet made information easier?","place":"Nairobi","who":"Aziz","paras":[[1,"So, we're doing these interviews for poidh, picture picture it or it didn't happen. Uh this is a platform where individuals can put up different bounties for the community to participate in. This bounty is $100. The question is, has the internet made it easier or harder for people to access information? The truth. I think the internet has made it easier, but confusing for people to get access to information. So, initially, if you had to look for information on a particular subject, you had to scout through massive repositories, right? And that's through libraries, that's through physical copies of books. But now with the internet, um and I especially with the artificial"],[42,"intelligence being embedded into the internet, you're able to get information without necessarily going through the hassle of reading through books, searching keyword searches have become even easier for you to target specific reads. If you have to read through that that you know, the books manually. But again, it's also made it a lot. So, um with this density of information than the scarcity of of the the the how much of it is there, the volumes of them being readily accessible means people are not actively trying to understand the information because it's at your fingertips, right? So, it's it's it's it's available for you whenever you want it. So, people have become less"],[83,"intentional about creating more. People value information less because it's now more available. Um so, yeah, I think it's made it easy to access information, but information is becoming less valuable um for the regular human being unless you want to you know, my you you have the capacity to absorb a lot of information, then simplify it, um get data sets, etc. If you're just a regular human being, people are less likely to value that information a lot. Yeah. And how easy is I mean, how easy is it to be to I mean, how easy is it for the internet to spread misinformation as well? Or information? Ooh, spreading"],[126,"information is also really easy. Like um surprisingly, during the floods for instance, right? Um which just happened in Nairobi, Red Red Cross had sent alerts. So, because of the internet, spreading information is easy. And this does not just happen to information which is meant to educate and inform, etc. It's also across misinformation, disinformation, or um you know, information which is meant to to slander, to destroy, to ruin. It's also become really easy to spread that. When you go to X right now, you of course know there's going to be that one random X account that will tell you uh Elon Musk is releasing this coin and you see"],[166,"you do this and this and click this link, etc. So, misinformation is becoming a lot easier as well with um internet. Yeah."]]},{"id":"qwRsD8N6nkc","slug":"internet-information-or-misinformation-nairobi","title":"Internet. Information or misinformation?","place":"Nairobi","who":"Aziz","paras":[[1,"So, hi. My name is Aziz and I'm doing an interview for poidh, picture it or it didn't happen. The interview question this week is, is the internet good at spreading information or misinformation? I think both I think on I think it does both depending on what do you want to watch exactly. If you're more into business, it might give you maybe good prices or fake. If you're into gossip, it will give you truth or maybe So, I think it's it's both. I think it's both. It's not one-sided. Have you ever experienced a situation where you found misinformation on the internet? Yeah. What was that experience like? Like"],[43,"people selling stuff online. You find like something is being sold at a price that even you as a customer it's it's a bit it's a bit sus, yeah. Like you might find somebody selling a car maybe at 1.7, another guy selling the same car maybe at 700,000. So, it's a bit like, okay. And I mean, what what measures do you think we should take to ensure that we keep the internet safe? Do your research actually. Do your research and know if if something is sus or something is real cuz you don't don't just jump into something cuz you might jump into it and then find"],[79,"yourself you've been conned or you know. Yeah. Thanks for"]]},{"id":"6d7hh7IskWM","slug":"nigerian-students-on-the-power-outages","title":"Nigerian students on the power outages","place":"Campus","who":"Gift","paras":[[0,"You really want me to do that now. I believe it has done more harm than good words to do. Hello, this is for poidh and We Them Media and today I'll be interviewing my fellow students, asking them how the current lack of electricity is affecting their student's life. Come with me. So how has the lack of electricity affected you as a student? You really want me to do that now. Let's hear it. So it has affected me in all ways like reading, eating, sleeping, cooking, watching, doing assignments and projects. It's really really stressing because you don't have time to go to your phone. You have to like projects or let me say you have to create a term table"],[45,"for how you cook, how you fetch water. Everything is not your own convenience again. It is like an opportunity not a convenient thing you do for yourself. It's not longer a means of life. It's not in survival mode. If you want to live as a student, you can't get it. Yes, you've managed your butt. Honestly. It's very stressful. Thank you so much. Well, it's actually affected me. It has affected me a lot in terms of my project, delayed project. I'm also trying to meet deadlines. It has always been a lot for me, but I just hope that things get better. As a student, well, I believe it has done more harm than groups was still because"],[85,"And looking at exam periods, we actually need light a lot. I remember last semester, they said I wake up in the midnight and then there's no light. Like, bro, I'm just like, what kind of thing is this one? And then it doesn't motivate me to read sometimes. That's why when I don't see people reading, I'll just go back and sleep there. We go again. So actually, I feel like it does more harm that good. And also, we need to be charging our phones and systems. Look at people in final year two that are going to be writing projects. They'll be needing these lights and stuff like that."],[117,"Now that's not the situation of the country but I believe that our students will deserve more. Thank you very much. You're welcome. So nice to see you there."]]},{"id":"lDwehFphZ9I","slug":"post-graduation-pressure-and-being-the-breadwinner","title":"Post-graduation pressure. Son of God","place":"Campus","who":"Gift","paras":[[0,"Hello, this is We Them Media and Picture it or it didn't happen. Hello, good afternoon. My name is Gift Angel. What's your name? My name is Son of God. Son of God, nice to meet you. So, I have a question for you. Do you often feel pressured to have your life figured out after school? Well, I don't think I will feel any kind of pressure cuz I have all my sense about me here from school. So, I have my life figured out after school. So, I won't feel pressured at all. Okay, so you you you have never gotten pressure from like the society, people? Yeah, the pressure is quite real because"],[32,"we've seen uh people graduate from school and you see them going back to their parents and all so. And considering the fact that I'm a man, so there's more pressure to step up and be the man, be be the breadwinner for the family and just have a job and that. So, that's the only pressure. The fact that I'm being a man and that's that's that's quite gender-based, so. So, how are you handling this pressure now that you're still in school? How are you How are you trying to like control the emotions? Well, the goal is to plan and plan right. Plan well, plan right. So, it's starts from making sure that"],[65,"you excel academically, okay? So, it gives rise to opportunities of actually landing a job immediately after school, so you won't be stranded. So, the goal is after school, the best thing to figure out my life is the plan of not being stranded and I'm planning from now. Okay, have you ever gotten gotten questions like, \"Okay, what are you going to do after school?\" And then what's your reply to those questions?"],[85,"Yeah, I've attended some conferences and especially in my faculty when they ask us law seminars when they ask that, \"What does any one of you want to do with law?\" And I would say, \"I want to do academics with law.\" Yes, I'm looking forward to being a professor of law. Professor, that's amazing. That's What about How do you deal with, you know, any other friends, your peers that maybe you're already talking about your plans, \"Oh, my dad has connections and all of that.\" How are you, you know, check keeping your emotions in check and all that?"],[112,"Well, that can be quite overwhelming, especially if you find if you find yourself in the circle of people who are big wigs, I'll say. Some say you you Big wigs, I see. Some say, yeah, you know, after this LLB everything, I'm going to get my masters in Post National University. I'm going to go to"]]},{"id":"ltsk8j36Lh8","slug":"what-nigerians-think-of-the-usa-abuja","title":"What Nigerians think of the USA. Paul in Abuja","place":"Abuja","who":"WalkwithGod","paras":[[0,"This is for poidh and We Them Media. I'm on the streets. I just met this young man and I'm trying to ask him what his the stake on the USA today. I'm sorry bro, and what's your name? Yeah, my name is Paul. Good evening. Yeah, you know me I'm out of a courage. I'm a media guy today. I'm trying to stop a point. So that's it. So what's your take on the US today? Yeah, it all depends what aspect of the US you want me to talk about. The US is a is a big country and we all know about the US. I think you can generalize. It could be"],[31,"politics, it could be sports, it could be entertainment, whatever. However you feel about it or you know. The USA is is really crazy though. You know we we've not been to the US but we we only see news news about the US on the media. We watch the news, the politics and even the sports and we know US to be a very big big state. And they control most of the affairs in the world. And more like they have the power right now I think. Okay. And um but the the the rate of inflation right now in the US is really bad. The rate of"],[66,"inflation. I I think for more social that I know about. And then also I I would love to also point the politics too, you know. Politics politics. Why do why do the past presidents keep coming back? You know, why do they I've never heard about the liberals winning. You know, it's always the conservatives and stuff. If I'm wrong Sorry sorry. No I don't even know much about politics and stuff man. I may not really know much but I think it's only one party that wins all the time. So I think we should do something different. You know, that's all. If you have any other parts"],[101,"to ask about that I don't know. Okay, and then me and me I know about entertainment I'm concerned of I like Ye, I like Jay-Z, I like music and thing. I like rap. I don't know what you think about all that. No, entertainment is top they are top notch. They are top notch. They I think the entertainment industry is doing pretty well. And then also I know a few artists that I like. I like to listen to Coldplay. I love I love a different kind of music. I love Jay-Z also and I used to like this other guy called What's his name? Um for you"],[137,"He was once featured with the G Unit at one time like that and I couldn't remember his name. Okay, Obie Trice. Obie Yeah, Obie Trice. He featured Tupac or something in a track and So we have lots of other good artists and good musicians. Eminem is a topic for me, too. And then I I like I like so many other artists. I just don't want to mention names. Okay, that's cool. So what else about the guys? Would you like to be there sometime? Do you have plans to do all that kind of stuff? Of course, of course. But I'm not into music right now. I do I do creative stuff. I do"],[173,"interior designs, but"]]},{"id":"TKOlX3ithsU","slug":"what-made-you-smile-today-nigeria-campus","title":"What made you smile today?","place":"Campus","who":"Kaspa","paras":[[0,"This is for poidh and We Them Media. All right, today is going to be a beautiful day and I'm in the streets of A Ife 9. You know, we did the palm side. All right, she died she okay. So, we're in palm side and we want to go out there and ask students what they're going to be saying what actually made their their day. But before I start, I want to say a big thank you to uh We the media and poidh. They're doing something really, really great. And if you're out there, you're going to be watching this video as a youth, you like to document, like to make"],[34,"videos, like to talk to people, you like to uh just have fun, okay? We the media has been creating a weekly contest where you get to go interview people or they give you a certain challenge which is easy to accomplish. And when you do so, you can actually stand a chance to win bounty. You feel me? And not not only that, in poidh, there's different tasks where you can make airplanes, where you can make um stunts, where you can do different kind of tasks, different kind of tasks that is accomplished anywhere and you can actually get paid for it. So, check out poidh, check out We the media. All"],[71,"right, so now I'm in the I'm in the school again, so let me ask one nice person. Let me meet anybody. All right, I see I can see my guy over there. Can you hear me? All right, let's let's walk up to him. Let me know what he's going to say. Hi. Hello, it's it's it's just a normal video. It's you actually, it's you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, do you mind not being on camera? I just want to ask you a very simple question, okay? All right, it's just a very simple question. It's very easy to to to actually answer. You don't mind?"],[100,"All right. I'm Casper. Daniel, nice to meet you. So, what I want to ask you is, what actually made you smile today? My mom. Your mom? Wow, okay, okay. What happened? Is it that she she sent you money? I was like I asked my students, like oh, she sent you money. bro. Nice, nice, nice, nice. Nice, nice. she. All right, it's nice to meet you, bro. All right, take care. So, we move on to the next person. It's more machine learning smile. God. Let's go to the next person. Let's go to the next person. All right."],[129,"Hello, my bro. Say cheese, bro. Oh, my man. Okay, do you mind being on the camera? All right, just want to ask you a very simple question. All right, this question is the question is this, what actually made you smile today?"],[144,"Oh, don't think about it. Just say don't even really think think about it. What actually made me smile today? Yeah, what actually made you smile today?"],[151,"Um It's a bad day exam that we write today. Whoa, the exam you wrote today? Because most of the question is just what I read yesterday. Yeah."],[161,"So, that means you don't download you give the lecturer assignment. Come on, come on. Let's get this started. LET'S GO. AND UH SUCCESS TO YOUR EXAMS, BRO. Good day. Good evening to you. I hope you don't mind being on camera. I just want to ask you a very simple question. Clement is wrong. Clement, relax now."],[181,"All right, what I want to ask you is this, yeah. What actually made you smile today? Okay. I would say God. God made you smile today. All right, when you pray to God yeah, you actually So, what about your exams, sir?"],[193,"Yeah, we thank God it was fine. You thank God, right? I appreciate I appreciate. But, God made you smile today. It's like I'll be more grateful to God."],[199,"All right, now take care, everyone. All right, chief. So, let's see the street. Let's see the street, bro. Hm. We the media is doing something great. Come over. Come over here. Come over here. It's hard to see people smile. When you look at individuals right now on the street, a lot of students it's hard to see them smile. But, when you stop a student to ask them a question that what actually made them smile, bro, it's different. It's not it's it's it's it makes them to think about what they actually did today that actually made them smile. You feel me? So, let's get started. I can't wait to interview"],[231,"more people. You feel me? You know what I mean? Let's She's walking fast. Hello. Good evening. My name is Casper. I want to ask you a simple question. It's a street interview. It's a very simple question. It's a street interview. I want to ask you a simple question. You're in a hurry. All right, take care. All right, let's get started. Let's go. So, I think we're going to interview the next person and let's hear from her what she has to say. Hello. Good evening. My name is Casper. I hope you don't mind being recorded. I want to ask you a simple question. It's a street"],[259,"interview. I'm in a hurry. You're in a hurry? Just one question. Is that okay with that? I'm not okay. All right, take care of yourself, okay? So, I wanted to ask you a simple question. I I wanted to just a street interview. So, I hope you don't mind being on camera."],[275,"What is the camera for? Okay, we're actually running a street interview and I want to just ask you a simple question that you can just give me a reply for. Is that okay by you, sir?"],[285,"Where which platform are you on? All right, which platform? Yes. I I'm I posting my videos? I post on X, that is Twitter, and I also post on TikTok sometimes."],[295,"Okay. All right. All right, so what actually made you smile today? I'm alive, of course. The fact that you're alive made you smile? Yes, I'm I'm alive, healthy, strong. As you can see, the atmosphere is very encouraging."],[312,"Very, very. Very encouraging. At least uh for about 24 hours now, we are feeling like we are in London. So, the past uh 20 something hours now, it seems like we are in hellfire."],[328,"Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. Everybody Everybody is enjoying the atmosphere. So, I'm happy. All right, stay safe. Stay safe. Guys, I'm out of here for me. Thank you very much for your time. I really appreciate you. So, let's move on. Oh, what's up, I hope you don't mind being on camera. I want to ask you a very simple question, man."],[344,"Okay. All right, so what made you smile today? Um nothing really. I never stopped smiling. So, how far waiting to smile? Um the weather is really good."],[361,"The weather is good, but The weather is good. It's cool. Time sheet. Time sheet. Aside from that, nothing has made you smile today? I'm not sure."],[368,"Um but if I if I can tell you something I can make you smile, but you might have to put some work. Will you be able to do it?"],[377,"Do you do you can you make content like this? Do you mind hitting the street and making content like this? No. Nah. You don't have that strength for it."],[386,"Yeah. Okay. Do you make airplanes? Like do you have sometimes Can you do some you mean a mini mini mini tasks that can actually pay you dollars? Can you do some something like that? Some you see. So, my name is Casper and I'd like to hit you up. Give me my number so you can trust me. I'll introduce you to Voice and um you can check out some bounties there. It might be something that might help you to actually make money for yourself while you're in school. You feel me? So, you can hit me on WhatsApp, okay? Just tell me you you met me on the road and um"],[422,"I'll reply you, okay? I'll bring you on Voice. Text me now. I'm Casper, k s p All right. See you, my man. I'm with you. The next person to ask this very simple question. So, follow me as I interview this very beautiful couple over here. So, yep. Good evening, chief. Good evening, miss. Hi. Good evening. My name is Casper. I'm doing a very a very short street interview and I just want to just hear your answer. Hope you don't mind being on camera."],[448,"I mind. You don't like me. You don't like how my day You don't like how I talk abi? So, no leave am. Yeah. All right, now. Levels. Levels. All right, now. Time sheet. Hello. Sorry. Do you guys mind being on camera? I want to say I want to ask you simple question. Do you Okay, okay. I see. Let's get it started. Hi, what's up? Very good. All right. So, my name is KAS APA. So, I want to ask what actually made you smile today? Okay. Wow, see. Let's get it started. She's okay, okay, okay. Now, let's return the question to you. What actually made you smile today?"],[486,"I don't know, but I smile for so many reasons. You smile for so many reasons, right? I see. I see. Oh, she's so fine, I see. That's why she actually made him smile. Let's get it started. All right, I will thank you so much, my G. All right, I will take care, man. All right, thank you."],[502,"Let's get it started. Every single person that I that I asked what are you or what made you smile today has actually smiled first before I showed that question. So, if I told they are having a bad day, they think about what has actually made them smile. So, this is a very thoughtful bounty, and man, 100. We have come to the end of this beautiful street interview in the street of A A Fun Night. Come on, man. So, it was lovely to see some students smile, and those that actually had their own things, you feel me? So, I see. See you on the next one."]]},{"id":"TPOsbR4jecs","slug":"the-500-dollar-bounty-that-paid-for-pizza-day","title":"The $500 bounty that paid for all of this","place":"","who":"We Them Media","paras":[[0,"All right. What's up, everybody? My name is Maceo. I'm here from We Them Media. And I'm announcing that we'll be giving away over $500 to people who submit to a content bounty around Bitcoin Pizza Day. Every year, Bitcoin Pizza Day happens. People from around the world come together in the crypto community. We eat pizza, we vibe, we chill out, we talk about crypto, we talk about non-crypto. And I think it's one of the most interesting things that we don't see enough content come out of every year. And so this year I'm inviting content creators around the world to come out Shoot content, document the scenes in a We Them Media kind of vibe"],[29,"And, you know, put your best foot forward for a chance to win $500 And we'll see what other prizes show up But yeah, let's make it happen You can check it out at wethem.xyz slash pizza day Boom"]]},{"id":"gX_sgFitIoc","slug":"pizza-dao-since-day-one-philadelphia","title":"Saucy Saucier, Pizza DAO since day one","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"say it now. Hi, Mom. Hi, Mom. Thanks for letting us Thanks for letting us use your high taps. Yeah. Thanks, Mom. Yeah, that'd be awesome. So, what's your name?"],[11,"I'm Sau. Okay. And I'm Miss We're here with We Them Media at the Philadelphia Pizza Party. What year pizza party is this? This is our sixth global pizza party. This year we were in over 400 country uh 400 parties in over a 100 countries. And how long have you been involved with pizza?"],[29,"I've been in there since day one. So I collect street art and it was during lockdown of co and my friend was like you should get on this app club house."],[40,"So I was like all right. I went on and I went all the rooms that were about art and a couple You're welcome. You're welcome."],[49,"Introduce yourself. Hi I'm Stephanie Smith. We can continue. Yeah, do your thing. We can pause the interview. What's your channel though? What's your channel? We Them Media."],[66,"We know Daniel's friend. So what?"]]},{"id":"v_yspgq6KvY","slug":"how-pizza-dao-started-on-clubhouse","title":"Saucy Saucier, the full conversation","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"It's mirror. Hi. Hello. I like it. Oh, thanks for letting me join. A long skinny. Happy pizza day. Pizza. There we go. That's cute. That's going to be cute. Send me that one."],[27,"I like that. So, oh, it's recording. I like that. The whole thing's on video. Sorry. Us taking us taking a selfie. It's on uh Yeah."],[35,"On the We Them Media YouTube. Welcome. I went I signed up for Hello. Uh I signed up for all the art rooms on Clubhouse and I started going through it and they were talking about NFTTS and I was like, I do not have a clue what that is. So, I started I went down this big rabbit hole. I was off a whole week from work and I was 24 back then everyone was 24/7 on Clubhouse. There wasn't a minute of the day that you couldn't go on and find like some room."],[59,"This is like around pandemic too. It came out like 2021 beginning. Um and I went to some room and Snacks was talking and he happened to mention that he was from Philly. So one day when I was back at work, I was taking a lunch break and I went on a room um cuz Snacks was on it and we started talking about like what things to do or whatever and I was like, \"Listen, I got to bounce. I have to go back to work.\" Then I came back five hours later, they were still there talking. He's like, \"Wait till you hear what we dreamed up.\" And he told me the"],[85,"whole story. He's like, \"We're going to sell NFTTS and use the money to buy pizza.\" And I said, \"Were you smoking weed the whole time I was working? Cuz that sounds crazy.\""],[95,"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, this was psychedelic inspiration struck for real. It was February 21st, I think, 2021. Somewhere like that. Somewhere in like the end of February."],[104,"Yeah. Yeah. And we launched I remember that we started doing it. That was when the idea started. We started really building the NFT I want to say in March and we launched we launched it live on Bitcoin Pizza Day May 22nd which is when we had we had a giant party in New York that was insane. It was like the height height height of NFT madness when NFTYC it was during NFTYC and they said they had like I don't remember 150,000 people at the conference or something and we rented this entire building that was like a block from the conference and it was macked. It was four floors. There"],[142,"was a a line around the corner. All right, I guess we have to stop. Goodbye. Bye, Mom. Thank you. Sorry. So good."]]},{"id":"p-4ojzGe300","slug":"crypto-mondays-philadelphia-and-crypto-taxes","title":"Sean, on the Crypto Mondays community he helps run in Philly","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[4,"What do you want me to say? I'm going to ask you like your name, your age, where you're from. Ask for your side. I'm just like,"],[12,"you're the interviewee. You get to decide. Yeah, exactly. You can choose to answer. What's up everybody? Say media. We're at the Bitcoin pizza party here in Philadelphia 2020 for the pizza party. What's your name?"],[27,"I'm Sean. I uh do crypto taxes and I also organize crypto Mondays here in Philly. So we have Crypto Monday organizers. What is Crypto Monday?"],[36,"Crypto Mondays. It's a Crypto Monday DAO just spreading the word, educating people on crypto, um Bitcoin, AI and all those discussions. We have developers, uh investors, uh people who are doing startups as well in the area. They come by Crypto Monday like how big is that?"],[54,"They're uh at an international level. So we have about close to Yeah. about close to almost over like 70 cities now. So all across the country and then as well as over international. What's"],[67,"it been like for you organizing? I know I'm interrupting you but they're going to go soon. So I'm trying to be there for too. And so what's it been like for you organizing the crypto community here in Philadelphia?"],[75,"Oh it's been an amazing experience. You meet a lot of like-minded people. you make new friends but at the same time you're learning about you know new technologies coming into blockchain um any other events like Bitcoin pizza day amongst like other Salana day events as well so bunch of like crypto crypto events and you say you do crypto taxes has that gotten like harder or like less demand with AI"],[101,"um a little bit but it's a very gray area so the rules regulations um they're still kind of like some parts are still up in the because the IRS is still trying to figure things out. But for the most part, you know, with AI, it's getting a little bit simpler, but we won't have a clear sense of direction until the IRS tells us exactly how to, you know, kind of follow those transactions and kind of determine what to do."],[125,"What kinds of questions do you think I should ask people around the party tonight? Me just trying to see what got them into the crypto scene, how active they are, and whether or not if they want to cover crypto Mondays. So,"],[138,"of course. Okay. Nice to meet you, Sean. Thank you. Hell yeah."]]},{"id":"PWZifcl9Ooc","slug":"deaf-rights-hope-and-philadelphia-since-1961","title":"Carol, a Philadelphian since 1961, on finding hope in unlikely places","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"minded and and lighthearted. It's that combination of where your head is and where your heart is and when they like and then everybody around her like not just around the but you know like a tree with you one space in something called pizza dough. It's very wild, but it's it's hope inspired. Hope instead when every day you struggle to keep hope alive my entire life and it is frightening for me to keep the goal. That's what we're down to. What do you want to see happen? I wouldn't be able to get up here. There's still hope as I listen and watch to some new horror that's presented to us all."],[69,"And we know what we talk. And are you originally from Philadelphia? Yeah, I'm a Philadelphia. Um, moved into the center of the city in 1961. Been here literally forever. a very magnificent."],[87,"Okay. Oh yeah. Manhattan. Then I came back to Philadelphia to change the world as I knew it. Then I wanted to bring what I took with me from New York City. what I learned and experienced, bring it back to my city and change the picture invisibility literally of the world of my own kids who are deaf. So my my passion and my fight for civil and human rights is focused on deaf rights and the language and cultural rights."],[124,"Oh yeah, that's what you're signing. Uhhuh. Yeah. I would not post anything without Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, here I'll take this out of your hand then. You're doing work for people"],[135,"and sign language and I'm not a professional interpreter anything close to it. But I want to make sure that people who watch me and see me and listen to me know that I'm conscious of the need for full accessibility beyond ramps and wheelchairs built to those steps that kind of thing. Communication accessibility is everything. said that's my passion, my fight, my struggle, my cause and it never ends. Like we're watching a devolution of civil and civil rights just adds the death issues. It's unmatched. So that's what gives me reason to wake up every morning and stay healthy and stay healthy person. I like that."],[199,"Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Can I ask you one more question? Of course. So, I've been building this platform called We Them Media. And our goal is to be like a"],[212,"is to be like, you know, a public good. Oh, I've seen this artist before. A public good in the world of like uh journalism specifically. And can we empower like community reporters in different countries, different communities around the world, you know, to come together and use our platform, you know, while promoting discourse across cultures and borders, but really also thinking about how do we make that sustainable for them? How do we get them access to resources, visibility, you know, accountability, you know, how do we actually give them the ability to be the fourth estate for their community, but also, you know, the people looking out for what's once needed and missing."],[245,"And I'm curious, what do you think when you look at like Philadelphia in journalism or the US in journalism? Like what do you think about the state of information?"],[251,"Oh, it's horrendous. It's horrendous. There's a I'm I'm an MTR addict actually. One of their fantastic journalists murder every day in Gaza for the past two Murder, parking, boom, boom, boom, party and everywhere. They were all confessor most incredible and just shut down NBC. It's gone. It's gone. What you ask me? Thank you."],[355,"Yeah. Thank you."]]},{"id":"opBIiXE69HU","slug":"housing-and-jobs-the-most-important-global-issue","title":"Johnny, 23, on housing and jobs as the most important issue","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"That's right. One second. One second. Are you ready? Okay. I know you got to ask, right? So, what's up everybody? This is for PO and We Them Media. I'm MO. What's your name?"],[9,"My name is Johnny. Okay. Thank you. And yeah, what's the most important global issue today? Um, I would say housing and finding jobs. I would say that. Yeah."],[19,"Okay. And when you when you look at Denver, what makes you like what do you have to say about that here in Denver? I don't really agree with it, but it's like that everywhere now. But it is what it is. I don't know how to really put it."],[34,"Okay. Well, you could say anything. If you were gonna tell people about what that's like here in Denver, what would you say? It's hard. It's hard to like I guess move around and find your path. That's how it is for me. I'm young so I'm just finding everything out now."],[54,"How old are you? I'm 23 years old. 23. Mhm. It's nice to meet you. I'm 26. Nice meeting you. And let me get to this bus."],[61,"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do your thing. But thank you."]]},{"id":"WjOTWRTM2Gk","slug":"bring-our-people-home-denver","title":"“Bring our people home”: on focusing overseas instead of here","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[1,"Yeah, I'd say the biggest problem right now is thinking the bigger problems are outside of our country and focusing on, you know, um, international interests instead of helping the people here. Can you say more about that? And this is for Poetic We Them Media. You don't have to say that. Yeah, Poetic. It's called Pics or It Didn't Happen. It's just like the the kind of competition project we're doing. Okay. Um Yeah, I think far too long we've been interested in, you know, oil and resources and making money outside of the US and we got to get back to focusing on our people and our our"],[44,"country. What do you feel like? I guess, what has you say that? Uh, I used you point to? What would you point to as examples? Like, do you want people to like get what you're saying and be like, \"Oh, let me go look more into that.\" Um I just say like, look at the climate of of your of your state of of like how things are where you're at. And uh the fact that we've got all these people fighting this unnecessary war. So, we got to bring bring bring our guys home. Bring our guys home. Yeah. That's good. And then I have one one second question. Mhm. If you could ask"],[90,"the whole people around the world in the next 7 days any question, what would you want to know? Um What do you love about life? Yeah."]]},{"id":"qDFnt8seI6c","slug":"skating-filming-and-getting-stuck-in-denver","title":"Who the hell is Tim P?","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[2,"What's up? Hella Tim out here walking the dog. He's the boss. I've I've been told there's questions for me. Yeah, we got questions in the house. Are you ready for him?"],[14,"Uh, could never be ready. You're I guess we're down here on Grant Street and 13th as you should on in Denver, but you know, we're taking the dog with us. We don't know where the night is going. We're going where she takes us low key."],[33,"What's the question? Um, what's your name? My name's Tim Hella Tim on Instagram. And what kind of stuff are you into? I am more into"],[45,"Oh, we can go. What average people on the street might say excessive and dangerous, but I just call it life. um skateboarding, snowboarding, film making, hiking, any day of the week. Let me know when it is. We're just trying to make something happen out here. So,"],[67,"and where are you from? From Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, downtown Southside. And it's a great night. I don't even know what month it is. It's so good. What is it? 70°."],[82,"Denver, Colorado, something like that. And so how did we meet? We met doing a well we met because I met some people at a uh at an area where you know people are trying to better themselves and you know I got involved with some other filmmakers. They said there's a documentary that uh they wanted to make and I jumped on it immediately and uh"],[107,"you know my boy from Philly. I I feel like you know we connect on that side of things the the way you know the PA side of things."],[117,"So you know he was he was there he drove all the way here and now almost all the way here. Car broke down but now he's stuck in Denver as he should be. You know could change anyone's life."],[128,"Mhm. Um, so this is a green everything. Going to a studio tonight. Talk about some business about a um high times, that's the weed company event that's going on and about on March 18th and we're going to see what we can do for them. I just bought a drone so trying to get some aerial shots. Um, besides that, yeah, I guess we're walking around with the camera now. How's it going?"]]},{"id":"JDu-GZRgofc","slug":"narcan-youth-and-colfax-avenue","title":"An overdose prevention worker on Narcan, youth, and Colfax Ave","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"I work with an organization called I for prevention and we work in um preventing overdoses. Oh, okay. So, like Narcan, stuff like that. Yeah, we just administer Narcan and give it out to people who we think may need it."],[16,"Okay. So, uh yeah, that's really useful here in Denver, right? So, do you think that's a growing problem or Um, for sure. I think uh substance misuse is a growing issue for literally all walks of life, no matter how old you are these days. Yeah, it's definitely affecting everybody."],[35,"So, you help a lot of people. I'd like to think so. Wow, that's cool. I think you do help a lot of people. A little goes such a long way."],[44,"Yeah. And so we go into schools and um into hospitals and we talk to students and people about um prevent preventative measures and harm reduction and um things to improve their mental health."],[59,"So it's a young person problem with with opiates and stuff. Yeah. We focus on the youth. Really? So how long how what kind of hopefully damn"],[70,"saving lives? I should give them some Narcan. Oh no, we got fine. It's crazy. It took them like 5 minutes to get through here. All you got to do is move. And"],[86,"so are you two from here in Denver? Yes, I'm from Denver. Okay. And so how do you see like Denver changing over the last few years?"],[91,"Um you feel like it's gotten better? Stay the same. It's gotten worse. I think it's gotten worse. I don't see a lot of people, if that makes sense, like I used to see, especially with diversity."],[107,"I feel like a lot of people's moving out of Denver and my neighborhoods, at least the ones that I grew in, are getting gentrified a lot. And then look at Colfax. It's crazy."],[119,"Yeah. So, so for people that don't know what's Colfax, talk about Colfax. Um, well, me and my family, when I was growing up, we referred to Colfax as literally the street you don't want to end up on. Drugs, prostitutes,"],[134,"people just staying around, things closing, construction all the time. Just don't be on Colfax. Wendy's was just open. It It literally was. I saw it like a week ago and I'm like, \"This doesn't look right.\""],[149,"But, okay. What do you What are your thoughts on Colfax? Um, you're saying you work like in this like domain of addiction, huh? Yeah. Um, to me, I consider Colfax like I guess you could say the New York of Denver. It's just like for the most part it's like pretty fastpaced. There's like stuff to do on every block depending on who you are. Um, piss on the sidewalk at every block."],[173,"Piss on the sidewalk. Y it's worse than that. It's It's a little bit worse than that. Um, yeah. Colfax. Colfax goes crazy. You wouldn't want to live here."],[184,"Food on every block. And then you get you get further down towards Aurora. You got that good Mexican food. Mhm. Mhm. You better get it while you can."],[192,"Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like Mexican food. And we're fish. All right. No. Do you guys want to shout out your socials or anything for credit or?"],[201,"Um, I hardly use social media. I I like craft all this stuff and then I like don't even use it. Um I don't blame you. I'm only using it for business now. Um, I can shout out I for prevention, you"]]},{"id":"9xCbxQZKKDA","slug":"what-the-songwriting-camp-footage-is","title":"Rooftop recap: Maceo on the songwriting camp and what comes next","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Yeah, come over. Come over. I want to like do like an overview of like what all this content is. So, I feel like it's like an intro to what this YouTube playlist is. You recording already? Oh, hell yeah. So, what's up everybody? It's Mo. I'm here in Denver still since ETH Denver and this guy Tim. He brought me out to this songwriting camp um which been super sick. Blunts and Blonds been putting it on and so I've been able to connect with different artists, EDM artists, rappers, producers, DJs. It's honestly been super sick. People from Florida, people from LA, uh people from Phoenix, people from"],[34,"the East Coast, too. Uh this guy Tim, like I really didn't anticipate it honestly, right? You guys know, some of you know, right? I got into making content in the NFT space. Um and I was super excited about artist stuff, but I haven't really found a way to, you know, play my role, per se, in that domain. And I've been doing man on the street content the last couple weeks here in Denver. So, I've been walking around just walking up to people asking them questions. And so this kind of got to put my my interview chops kind of more on the on the spot, I guess, right?"],[59,"While doing more vlog type content. Um, and I think it's been super sick. I feel like this is like a a new kind of lane, more open format for actually helping artists tell their story and create content with them, right? That can support them in their uh marketing campaigns, right, over coming months. So, I've been trying to do like profiles for the content. And I'm kind of just excited to kind of see how this plays out, right? It's definitely not something I'm used to doing. Um, but I think it's dope to help them speak about themselves. and I feel like I'm learning as much about how to interview them as"],[84,"they are learning how to talk about what it is to be the artist that they are and how to build their brand more in public. So, it's been pretty sick. Um, I hope that you enjoy the content. I am looking forward to doing more stuff around music in the arts back in Philly and wherever else I go. I feel like this has let me know that DJI is nowhere I can't go and find interesting to shoot. So, that's what it is. Peace."],[102,"I've seen you on social media."]]},{"id":"cYJrCPx_oCQ","slug":"what-is-the-american-dream-charlotte","title":"What is the American Dream?","place":"Charlotte","who":"Devin","paras":[[0,"Yo, what's up? We the media. I'm with Nia. NASA. NAS and I'm Devin. This is my first interview for We Them Media. Mo, I told you I would do it. Um, okay. I guess we just finished a impromptu soccer game and now we're going to"],[14,"we're going to go for it. So, Neon, it's good to meet you, man. Um, let's just start big. What do you think of the USA?"],[20,"So, USA, I mean, I live here. I have a lot of thoughts about it, but I think that stuff about uh the American dream, freedom, I, you know, it's here, but it's not for everybody. It's for, you know, billionaires, CEOs, rich people, celebrities, presidents, but common folk, not so much. Uh people like me and you, people in the middle class, people that have to work. Yeah. 9 to fives don't have time to live much life. That's not real freedom."],[51,"Yeah. So it's like wade, you're caught up in the the grind, the rat race, and that's not your options are limited. Your options are limited. You don't have time to really live life. You you have to struggle to get by. That's that's struggle. That's not living."],[65,"And do you think that that issue is maybe isolated in certain areas more? You think that's just the United States specifically all over is just inundated with these millionaires and people struggling? Yeah, I think around the world if you if you look at it, you have places like the United States where there's huge wealth disparities, you have"],[85,"huge concentrations of wealth, and then you have these nations that are wealthy, but wealthy in resources that are not that are taken from them. So, I think I think you're you're either either one or the other. USA definitely falls into the former in my opinion."],[99,"So, what do you think? Do you think this falls on the government or do you think it falls on the rich to be like self-proposed philanthropists or is it like the government needs to step in?"],[108,"It's a good question. I think um I would rather look at it as uh I think the government serves the rich. I really see them as one in the same force."],[118,"I think the people should, you know what I'm saying, start taking things into their own hands a little bit. Maybe start to rely on one another rather than looking for handme-downs."],[127,"Little less doggy dog, right? Because I feel like being, you"]]},{"id":"deECm33sCDE","slug":"el-temazcal-con-senor-cesar-acapulco","title":"El Temascal con Señor César","place":"Acapulco, Mexico","who":"Maritza","paras":[[1,"El temascal como una práctica, ¿no? Aquí dice, ¿cómo dicen? Para todo, ¿cómo dicen? Para todo mal. Mal. Para todo mal. Mescal, dicen mezcal. Pero yo digo que para todo mal un buen demascal. Ah, sí. Y para todo bien. Y para todo bien. Ejá. Mejor. Claro, mejor. Ah, claro. Gracias, señor César por este tiempo que nos da y la echamos larga, ¿no? Sí, sí, pero aunque ya ahorita tenga la use la la una. Este, pues gracias por compartirse y compartir la experiencia en su recorrido del Temascal. Sí. Que en la salud empezó por tema de salud con su familia, su esposa y ahora su esposa lo apoya."],[51,"Sí, está de ella acudió, inició, pero usted se sigue. Yo yo me seguí ya ya mi familia ya no me siguió, pero yo sigo todavía en la en la lucha. Eso eso me ha fortalecido porque ahora ellas están siguen enfermas y y yo pues los apoyo al Ay, sí, sobre todo estar bien usted por ser la la fuente, el pilar. Eh, yo no puedo quebrar, yo tengo que estar fuerte como un de la familia. Sí. Y bueno, es el ejemplo porque el ejemplo arrastra. El ejemplo es el que más Bueno, sí, ahorita sí mueve para que mueve mueve. Exactamente. Para que se sientan ahí contenidos, apoyados,"],[97,"respaldados. Ahorita últimamente nos hemos unido más o estamos más unidos. ¿Será que ya los años también ya cuentan también? Cuentan. Sí. son los tiempos, diferentes momentos de la vida. Bueno, pues hasta aquí. Gracias por compartirnos y déjenos abierta la puerta, la oportunidad para seguir conversando el día domingo también cuando eh será se da la cita allá en el Temascal donde nos va a poder explicar más. Bueno, muchas gracias. Muchas gracias por la por la este oportunidad de la oportunidad que me dio para explicar sí para lo mucho o lo poquito que sé porque esto es inmenso. Este conocimiento es inmenso y no lo puedes en un libro"],[146,"no se encuentra en un libro. Ese son episodios de la vida de la vida y entonces ahora hay que ocuparnos cómo sí se quede la la se siga la tradición. y hasta se haga eh por escrito el la evidencia o el antecedente. Bueno, esta es una forma, la difusión de que de utilizar la tecnología ahora en favor educativo y y es una de muchas eh maneras que se requiere, como por ejemplo antes eh los antepasados escrib escribían códices. Finalmente la escritura en libros eran los códic los códices o los grabados. Exacto. Exacto. Las tablas, no sé, todo lo que ellos. Todas las tablas. Sí, pero ya ves,"],[198,"nosotros últimamente la no tenemos acceso a todo eso. Casi todo es de boca, experiencia de boca a boca. Y de la persona que usted, el profesor que usted comentan que sí escriben, será bueno ir acercándose trayendo literatura. Se ha metido. Y es de es de Morelos. Es de Morelo. Es de Morelos. Sí, ha venido aquí a promover sus libros. Yo no he comprado ningún libro, pero sí tiene varios libros. Entonces, este, las personas que me están escuchando pueden conseguir esos libros. Conseguirlos para tener una visión más de ¿Cómo se llama el autor? Arturo Mesa. Arturo Mesa. Sí. De la Universidad de Morelos o del grupo"],[246,"Me imagino que sí, de la Universidad de Morelos. Sí. o algún grupo de mexicanidad, como dice usted. Eh, yo sé que él es eh eh él estudió estudia todo ese tipo de la mexicanidad y todo. Él se metió a fondo. A fondo. Muy bien. Bueno, pues muchas gracias, señor César. Y por aquí nos vemos allá más bien aquí en Acapulco, pero en el Temascal, allá en el parque Papagayo, el día domingo a las a las 10 de la mañana. 10 de la mañana empieza el temas. Están invitados. quieran y que sean de otro lugar aquí serán bien recibidos. A empezar esta tradición de medicina natural."],[284,"Sí, natural y mexicana. Bueno, listo."]]},{"id":"uCQv5G4joHo","slug":"climbing-gyms-and-meeting-people-in-denver","title":"Luis, who climbs","place":"Denver","who":"Tim Palka","paras":[[5,"My name is Tim with We Them Media. What's your name? I'm Luis. Luis? Awesome. What are you doing here tonight? I'm about to do some climbing. Do some climbing, do some lifting, you know. Climbing, lifting, you know, upper body strength, gotta have it, you know what I mean? Do core, get it tight, you know. Go, get it tight."],[25,"Alright, so, you from Colorado? Yeah, I'm from here. I'm from Denver. Denver, Denver, fuck yeah You know, we're talking to a lot of people from all over the country, even the world So I'm happy we met a local What got you into rock climbing? Honestly, I did it as a kid Just like Something we would do, like on the weekends and stuff But recently, I don't know It's a great way to get outdoors In the city, it's a great way to meet people That's what I was thinking too Just kind of like, your mid-20s, you know It was down to climb, have a beer after kind of thing"],[56,"Yeah, I've not been to I'm in in Denver in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I have yeah, we do not have alcohol served at climbing gyms at Yeah, and we just walked by and and there's like a trivia night or something. Yep. Yeah, dude That's what the people do. All right Well, this is actually great information for people who haven't been in Denver yet because it's kind of a new thing to me I'm sure it is for a lot of people on the East Coast You know if you want to meet people And you like climbing and you like staying active and you like taking care of yourself and meeting other people who give a fuck to"],[88,"You come to the spot? Yeah, nah, this is the place. Good culture, great people, everyone's friendly, you know. Heck yeah. Super inclusive sport. It's sick. It's a spot to be for sure. Heck yeah. Well, good to meet you. Nice to meet you too, bro. Take it easy. See you later. Ask him about the internet. You gotta say it's for Poy and We Them Media, though. All right, so. Do what? It's his thing, so hold up. This guy, he's doing like a bounty, where if you, like, you can post videos asking people about different questions, and he's getting like $100 right now. Yeah. And so. What do you think about that?"],[123,"Okay, so should I say a company name? Oh yeah, you say this is for poidh. poidh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And also this is for poidh. We're wondering about the internet. You know, we're out here using the internet, I hope for good, but wondering from bystanders and other people doing activities in the city, do you think internet is spreading misinformation or giving information out that we ultimately kind of need if we didn't have it? I think it's both. I think it's both. It's definitely a tool for both. Definitely seeing a lot of misinformation lately, so you kind of need to be discerning, you know, be like a critical thinker with your sources and everything."],[164,"Yeah, I care a lot about that. Yeah, me too. That's like, you know, getting into media. AI is very destructive. It can speed things up on the production end of things, But when our iPad kids of 10 years from now are going to be like, this is real, this isn't real, this is what I like, this is what I don't like And it's all just garbage So, you know, we've got to keep our kids outside, in my opinion Keep them at the spot, you know what I mean? Filled community, that real life connection, you know, super important Heck yeah, well yo, good to meet you"],[199,"Why is that stuff important to you? Ask him, ask him, ask him Real-time coaching Honestly, yeah. Honestly, honestly. Why is that important? Because, you know, deep down I know why it's important. I feel like a lot of people don't have to explain that, but You know, why is it important to you, right? That's what it's about. You're trying to get his point of view I was about to get there, dawg Oh, I'm the problem We'll cut it, we'll cut it Alright, so, yeah. So, why is that important to you? You know, I'm trying to I feel like a lot of people, definitely, I was born in between Gen Z and Millennial"],[231,"I Know Why It's Important To Myself But We're Trying To Get The Answers From The Public Why Do You Think The Truth All Of This Is Important To You It's Important To Me Because At The End Of The Day I Feel Like As A Country We're Built As A Society We're Very Collaborative And This Whole Thing Depends On Us Trusting Each Other And Depending On Each Other So I Feel Like That's The Most Important Thing At The End Of The Day you know um it's being able to like fall back on your community um you know trust your community you know keep everyone safe keep it supportive yeah I feel like it's super important dude"],[270,"couldn't have said it better myself heck yeah man yeah have fun tonight uh we'll do we're gonna do the same and uh I'll talk to you later I might come here within a couple weeks if you're here bro you should you should I will I will it's a spot for shit heck yeah"]]},{"id":"TW1hm-EiW8I","slug":"eth-global-nyc-trailer-why-we-went","title":"Blockchain: the next foundation of finance. ETH Global NYC, the trailer","place":"New York","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"The people that love to be decentralized, you know what I'm saying? Just for y'all. And also, rest in peace Sugar Plum, that's my Shih Tzu, she died about 10 years ago. Appreciate you. Woo-hoo!"],[13,"Yeah, you have questions, right? Like, what did he just drink? Why is he honoring his late Shih Tzu at a basketball game? Who are the people even being decentralized? What does that mean? Well, that's why I'm here. Let's find out."],[33,"New York doesn't ease you in. You step out and you're already in it. A few million strangers, all going somewhere all at once. I grew up a couple hours away until close enough that New York was never some distant idea It was a city you took the bus to or trained to, a place I get to go and see my friends from high school and college That's the thing about this city, it's stacked Odega's under glass towers, old New York holding up the new one And most new people have no idea what the old one even looked like Oh, not you, sorry This time I linked up with some friends out here in the city"],[66,"People are already connected, already part of what I came for An Ethereum conference The kind of room where we're negotiating, where technology is going But before any of that, you eat, you walk You let the city remind you why people around the world dream of being here And somewhere between these streets and the conference floor That's where the story really starts My name is Maceo Whatley and I'm the founder of We Them Media Over the last five years, we've been researching how cryptocurrency and decentralized technology can empower everyday people around the world And that's why I attended the Ethereum conference in New York City a couple weeks ago"],[100,"to better understand and share with you all how Ethereum is working to show Wall Street it is ready to be the global settlement layer for financial systems. And we're here to show you what it means. Let's go."]]},{"id":"m9Cx4VP3Ios","slug":"bitcoin-hedges-debasement-not-inflation","title":"One builder’s perspective on Bitcoin, Chainlink, and Ethereum","place":"New York","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Every single one of the cryptocurrencies, they all compete with Ethereum for this one thing called decentralized immutable settlement, right? Mhm. And and and unlike Ethereum, Bitcoin has no competitor, right? Bitcoin only competes with gold. What Bitcoin solves Bitcoin solves the problem of currency debasement, right? So, if you work for 40 hours in a work week, you're and you say and you get paid for that, the government comes along and they they print 20% more money for Ukraine, uh"],[29,"Israel, COVID, then the price automatically go up. So, Bitcoin solves this huge problem cuz of currency debasement, right? And there's no competitors. The only thing Bitcoin solves with competes with is gold, right? It only competes with gold. And if you match Bitcoin and gold up side by side, Bitcoin wins. Now, Ethereum, every single cryptocurrency is trying to compete with this immutable settlement. Likewise, Chainlink also no competitors. Chainlink was I mean, it basically there's no one that solves the problem of previously unsolvable problems that Chainlink solves. Uh and provides data in a decentralized way, right? So, the data itself is decentralized, different from an API. It"],[66,"comes from a decentralized network rather than a single source oracle. So, in crypto, I'm always for looking for like what sort of previously unsolvable problems are being solved by these cryptos. And I do like ETH, but it has a lot of others."],[81,"Yeah, I get that I get that I get that. Especially with their whole L2 thing they did. Now, they're like, \"We don't need L2s.\" And it's like they kind of screwing over people who are kind of like"],[88,"Well, I don't I like L2s cuz they're cheaper and I hate paying gas fees for ETH. But uh the problem is that that takes the demand for ETH."],[95,"Yeah, exactly. And and the price of anything is where supply and demand meet. Exactly. Uh and so, if supply if demand is down because they're going on other blockchains, price also go down."],[105,"Exactly. I know I agree I agree. And I think debasement's a good word. I just talk about inflation in general. I don't really talk about debasement per se."],[111,"Bitcoin does It's a common uh misunderstanding that Bitcoin solves the problem of inflation. We If you just simply look back at 2022 as they started raising when the Federal Reserve started raising interest rates, Bitcoin was plummeting as they were raising interest rates. So, it just using that example, using that example, yeah, Bitcoin didn't have it did not hedge inflation in that circumstance, right? But, what Bitcoin actually hedges is currency debased. Right? The history of governments, the history of debasing currencies, mixing more less and less valuable metal into the coins and printing more and more money and spending it as you get out of your afford the rest of the and"],[151,"it causing inflation. Yeah, cuz it's totally good. I live in downtown New York. I'm from right here. That's called Detroit. This is Michigan. You know what I'm saying, right? Or we we stay decentralized. We stay decentralized. You have a message for the builders? Build on Bitcoin. Build on Bitcoin. You like Nostr? Yeah, dude. I run a Nostr relay. I run a Nostr node. I Bitcoin node. I have an AI agent that can use all three of those tools. He runs on the same machine. Yeah, I love Nostr. Decentralized Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you probably the benefit of decentralization is that no one can change the rules to benefit themselves."],[191,"Right? There's lots of competition that happens in the economy, but most of it can be actually be prescribed as rent-seeking middlemen. Yeah, absolutely. Not necessarily truly fair competition cuz it's not going to be conducted fair."],[206,"Fair market. That's who I'm about to disintermediate. That's what I do is I disintermediate the the rent seekers in the economy and we're going to basically kick the rent seekers out of the cuz if you're not solving a problem, you're not really providing value. This is what cool is what this is what decentralization solves. Well, no. All right. And Dharma. Thank you."]]},{"id":"ItZXyjdym94","slug":"estonia-ran-government-records-on-a-blockchain-first","title":"Estonia ran government records on a blockchain first","place":"New York","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"So, what's your name? Hi, I'm Shirley. Okay. Where are you in from? I'm from Estonia. Okay. And what are you working on? I'm working on a couple of things. So, I've been past eight plus years in blockchain and layer one protocol and ecosystem development. Currently, I'm with Logos. So, Logos is a privacy-preserving open-source local-first blockchain. Which provides privacy at the base layer and customizable privacy for normal privacy on the application level. And we also have a storage and messaging protocol. And then I have my own company, Satoshi Girl, which provides which provides advisory, outsourced development, and fundraising assistance."],[40,"Okay. And how did you get started in this space? I got started in this space like 10 years ago when I was looking at investment vehicles that are low barrier. As I was like pretty low income, but I wanted to start my journey with something and I didn't feel like stocks is enough low barrier. So, I got involved in crypto by by Bitcoin and other altcoins. So, and then I moved to Zug, Switzerland, which is free crypto valley in Europe. And I started my career back in 2018. I've been ever since then 24/7 365 in the space, falling in love, gone through ups and downs, and yeah, I found"],[80,"my space. Okay. And you told me a little bit about Estonia earlier. Tell us a little bit about Estonia and its history as like a progressive technology space."],[89,"Yeah, probably probably I could have some technology running in my blood cuz I am Our our country was the first to ever adopt private blockchains. It's like trusted permission blockchain at the government level early 2000s. So, we had e-voting, we have health care, and all kinds of government data and citizens data and processes backed by private blockchain. And we also e-residency. So, we have we have a very favorable tax jurisdiction with zero corporate tax. And by e-residency, we allow everyone to leverage on it by setting up a company remote. And um So, we're like very front We're like one of the frontrunners in adopting a"],[133,"digital innovation. We're We just launched a grant program for AI and privacy-enhancing technologies to uh adopt these technologies even further at the public sector level. Well, yeah."],[146,"Help me. I'm getting beaten up. You're not the only one that's been hit since you were sitting here. I um What do you think most people outside the blockchain space or tech space don't get about the moment we're in?"],[158,"What do they don't get? Um Well, still, I think they don't get we're still early on. Like uh there's still time to enter the space, uh pick up all the fast learnings, and uh start building, and uh and right away, because I mean, we're we will see like trillion-dollar markets soon in RWA and um traditional finance entering. But we're still early, so it's People think it's too late, cuz they see the price of Bitcoin and think like there's no chance they're going to get in, but that's still early."],[198,"It's still early. I love that. I love that. And so, what is ETH? Sorry? What is ETH? What is ETH? ETH is a first programmable um digital asset and infrastructure. And uh I mean, what is ETH? ETH is is a pioneer in programmability in Web 3, so"],[220,"And what is Bitcoin? Bitcoin is the store of value and uh digital gold for me. And And yeah, so they're very different, but they're they're here to stay, and there will be something for everyone."],[235,"Okay. Do you have a message for the builders? A message for builders like come and explore Logos if you're interested in local first, uh, decentralized infrastructure to claim to claim ownership and control over your how your data is being used or assets or freedom of speech. So, we're all about revitalizing the civil liberty and human rights through infrastructure, through technology, but we also have a social movement. So, come and explore on uh logos.co, and uh yeah, start building."],[265,"So, Logos is the home for social movements? It's a technology stack and a social movement. So, we have over 200 destinations in the world where we have regular local meetups uh for people to detect local meaningful issues and solve it later with our help, like with fundraise help, um technology, uh building, um So, yeah, come and explore. We're open to expanding to the further to further locations, uh but we also for builders we also have a grant program RFPs. So, come and explore."],[297,"Okay. Excellent. Excellent. Any other X's or something like that where we can find you or tag you when we post it? Yeah, so local um we have Logos Network on X, and just Logos as well. So,"],[309,"That's cool. That's cool. Don't worry. Don't worry. All right, thank you."]]},{"id":"UbebBKiNS4M","slug":"go-crazy-or-go-home-on-the-j-train","title":"On the train after the Knicks won the finals","place":"New York","who":"Maceo & Isaac","paras":[[0,"Okay, so where we at? We on a J. We just, we just, we got to just Hugh Street. Okay. Who we with? Who we with? Yo, squad go crazy, go crazy, go crazy. Hold on, hold on. Go crazy and go home. Y'all not ready for this. Y'all not ready for this at all. Y'all got it? Y'all got it?"],[16,"If you're not going crazy, what the fuck you're doing, man? We here. Look, I got a motivational quote for the kids, my boy right here, the young folks, old folks. This is for the world For the world I got a title for the world Go crazy or go home I don't know if y'all can see it but Basically I should know what that means in life You're not going crazy, you're going home And I don't want y'all to just go home Cause I might even wanna say just outside In this world there's so much you can do it As long as you go crazy and do it"],[44,"What I mean by go crazy is just put your all into that shit When I say your all, your all, your everything Cause it be that one time that you do something and be like, hey my god, now look, the Knicks, I'm a New Yorker, the Knicks is the fucking champions of America, like come on, come on So what does that mean, the New Yorkers, the Knicks just won, what does that mean? That means, anybody could do anything, nigga, the Knicks ain't won since, what, 19, what the fuck, is we in 2026, come on bro, anybody could do anything What would the world be like, every New Yorker, do they come back by 30?"],[80,"I ain't more for it, like who, Spurs or the Knicks? If every New Yorker knew, they could come back by 30 like that Yeah It's a metaphor, right? They know they can always come back What would the world be like? Every New Yorker just I feel like the world wouldn't be like how it is now Because nowadays, everybody doubt us Everybody doubt New York, so everybody thought that it'd just be regular Everybody be so cocky How do I say that? It's them, my stuff Okay bro, make me strong Get that, get that, get that, get the dude This is how I stop This is how I stop"],[113,"At least it's not Marcy, you know, at least you're not gonna be in Manhattan"],[121,"What type music are you doing? I do a hip-hop, R&B, and I'm trying to get into singing, like, you know, just regular singing You know, like, Hurricane Wisdom, and I'm trying to, Hurricane Wisdom, Royal Weed, like, I'm gonna be like, I feel like Hurricane Wisdom, I feel like he's like an industry plant, like, I feel like he came out of nowhere I like Hurricane Wisdom, but sometimes I feel crazy that I like him. I'm like, damn, where did they come from? Featured with everybody. I said, who is this dude? He's been making music for eight years. I said, where? That's my generation, gangsta. What's another person I've seen? I don't know. Should I shout him out just because we're from there?"],[161,"Hey, well, bro, shout out to my son, Jay-Z. Bro, he's one of the biggest, bro. niggas say fuck Jay-Z, but you do gotta get him this credit, bro, you gotta really get this credit, you know I'm from Mossy, bro, I'm like, I gotta get him this credit, man, my son, my son did this thing, he said, I don't know what I'm saying, bro, try to be like, no, this thing got a billion, probably a trillion thousand in his pocket and fake, this nigga can spin all his bread and get all that shit back, who's doing that, name one nigga, what, I think this is going on YouTube, bro, name one nigga in the comments, please, please, you gotta have a good conversation,"],[199,"What's your favorite Jay-Z album? I ain't gonna know Okay I was one of them first Especially like being from the hood He mostly talking about shit that's going on That shit What do you feel like transplants don't get about Like the real New Yorker experience? I said like I don't know I saw the answer Like I grew up here so it's like everything's so natural, you know what I'm saying? Even if I've never been to Manhattan and today's my first day going to Manhattan, I feel like everything will be so good You know what I'm saying? Yeah You're a bitch, you're a bitch Nah, I'm in Philly"],[236,"I don't even live here I'm just outside It's up to your interest Yeah No shit, how old? See, I've been here all my life, I'm trying to drive, I've never even been to Philly I've been through Philly driving through it, so I've never been here Yeah, yeah, yeah I gotta go How old are you? 18 You got time, you got time You got a decade to do everything you want and put your whole self in position You got a decade to do your self in position, a decade That's a lot of time A lot of time I don't know if you told you, my son's leg got a horn"],[266,"I wish I had your jeans I got some wavy eyes jeans I could wear them Customized one of my jeans We got the one on the back That's so hard"],[285,"I said give me another question if you don't mind"],[289,"Why are you trying to make content? Why are you pushing right now? I ain't gonna lie, cause I grew up in the hood, like I said, I'm from Hulson from here As the churches, I'm the people to fuck, but besides me being there, I'm not gonna make it a solid story It's just the fact that as people there I mean, just say what I'm gonna say, it's okay Nah, yeah, there's people there that feel like since they from there, they can't do shit Outside the thing bro, you could be from the garbage nigga and still make whatever you do, whatever you do, you feel what I'm saying?"],[315,"I don't think just that you from the level of fuck, you can do whatever you want in this world bro I'm not saying you do some crazy shit, but I'm talking about in a positive way, you can do a lot in this world bro I don't see a lot bro, and learn a lot, nigga should be surprised bro You just got to make your own way, bro Don't be doing no dumb shit out there, bro People that do dumb shit or try to influence you to do dumb shit It's dumb people You know, most of the niggas like dumb Most of the niggas I don't focus on receiving rules"],[344,"You know, bro You play sports? Yeah What? Growing up, I play football I ain't gonna say I'm the nicest, but I've definitely been on teams and shit I've been on every lowest level already in New York Junior Knicks New York Jr. Knicks, Gangsta, I played for them Oh wow 2000, I don't want to lie, I think it was either 2018, 19, or 20 One of those before COVID"],[373,"You made that face He said 2018, 19, or 20, I said okay One up though, I don't remember that exact yet That's why I made the face, they said okay, I hear you, look That's why I made the face, that shit was a good experience though It was teaching us shit about the practice we were just playing games throughout the whole program, that shit was low. How do you feel like playing ball impacted your mentality for work ethic? I'd definitely say like, my damn, that's a good question. It definitely like, it gets you prepared for shit, like for example, if you know you gotta, if you know you gotta get ready to go somewhere,"],[406,"that's like getting ready to shoot it through, getting ready to shoot it late. You gotta be prepared for that shit, you gotta make sure you're prepared, you gotta make sure you're ready, you gotta make sure everything that you about to do for that thing and after that thing is ready, shit like that. That's what I'm gonna say. Nah, I think that's ready. You gotta be ready. Just to make sure you take time to get ready. Proper preparation for this poor performance. Hmm, baby bro. That was good. What a word. Did you hear people say that? I ain't hear that one, but that was the worst shit."],[433,"I ain't wanna know. I say that in a soul in my school. Ah, you should, bro. And what's your socials? How are your socials? Yo, you already know me. Like I said, it's guaggo crazy. My business is guaggo crazy. We are AZY, but my motivation to the words is like I said, go crazy and go home. If not going crazy with me, I'm doing it, I'm doing it."]]},{"id":"aFLVXj6g0Uw","slug":"unlearning-a-hate-for-blockchain-ethiopia","title":"Gloria on pop-up cities and web3","place":"Ethiopia","who":"We Them Media","paras":[[null,"Personally, I didn't buy Bitcoin, but I've heard from parents and relatives talk about how it's just a pyramid scheme and all. So that was my idea of blockchain at the start, so I've learned more about Web3 side of things and I'm loving it, yeah. It's been quite interesting, I've really gotten new perspectives, new lessons and just exploring the culture in Ethiopia, it's amazing. And what is a pop-up city? The pop-up city is a meetup of Web3 builders, mainly in Africa, to use Web3 as a tool to develop the continent and make it better, yeah. And so how would you say your perspective on that has shifted over being here the last"],[null,"two, three weeks? I don't think much has shifted. Well, okay, the only thing I would say is I didn't expect as many builders to be there, but I was shocked by the numbers. There can still be more, though, it's a good show-up, yeah. When was the first time that you first heard about blockchain? August last year, yeah, and I had to unlearn my hate for it, because all I knew was Bitcoin scams, but yeah. You said all you knew were Bitcoin scams? Yeah. And what was your experience with Bitcoin scams? Personally, I didn't buy Bitcoin, but I've heard a lot of people say Bitcoin scams,"],[null,"I've heard from parents and relatives talk about how it's just a pyramid scheme and all, so that was my idea of blockchain at the start, so I've learned more about Web3 side of things and I'm loving it, yeah. Do you feel like blockchain is important for the future of Africa? The possibilities of how it can be integrated in different industries, like my specialty, women's sports tech, so I'm here to just learn as much as I can and see how it can be moved into or merged with women's sports, yeah. So I do feel like it's an important skill, I feel like it's a key, I feel like it's"],[null,"a key to our society and to our society as a whole. Brought to you by The Bitcoin Hub. Join the conversation. $500,000 is the $100,000 $100,000 there is. So I think it is $56,000. Yeah. That's crazy. I think it's the best thing that you've done in your time. It's a great opportunity to create something that I think has been extremely valuable for you and all of you. Thank you."]]},{"id":"r4zEY2e6Hl8","slug":"what-is-ethereum-mumbai-street-interviews","title":"What is Ethereum? Mumbai street interviews","place":"Mumbai","who":"Sherzin","paras":[[0,"We are on the streets of Mumbai and this video is for We Them Media. Hi. So guys, what is Ethereum? Dog Dog OK Cat Rabbit Rabbit Do you know Ethereum? Or pizza pizza perfect. So guys, what is Ethereum? Aetherium. What is Terrarium? I don't know, do anything. Errarium means slow process slow process ok this is out of syllabus question do n't know do anything. Think you will do this. Some guy might have some name. Something that comes out of the ground could be called Ethereum. Meow no you can give any reaction yes it is a blockchain what is ethereum? What does Ethereum mean ?"],[85,"What time this so this Ethereum. There is a cab. Yes. Cab? Cab cab? Yes. Cab from Mumbai. Brother what is Ethereum? Friend, I am just a simple man from Mumbai. What I do know is Ethereum. What is Ethereum? Am."]]},{"id":"0ylkTXFoXGA","slug":"what-is-ethereum-university-of-lagos","title":"What is Ethereum? UNILAG street interviews","place":"Lagos","who":"Kafani","paras":[[0,"This is OPO and we them media. What is Ethereum? Hi guys, I'm Kafani and today I'll be going to the University of Lagos to ask students a question. What is Ethereum? Let's go. Hi guys, it's Kafani here and today I'll be asking students of the University of Lagos what Ethereum is."],[40,"Hi. Hi. I would like to ask you guys a question. Um, what is Ethereum? Ethereum? Yeah. Is it not like I don't know a cryptocurrency?"],[53,"Yes, a cryptocurrency. How do you feel about Ethereum? from my mom. How come? How come? How does your mom through a friend? I remember like some years back a friend told her to I don't know what they told her to do but she was doing it and I was the one that helped her to write down the phrase but she has we've lost or you've lost cash is now worth a lot money actually it's one of the leading um cryptocurrency alongside Bitcoin and um that's very sad"],[84,"but you can't recover your face once you use it but okay our mom was a OG educ transaction on the blockchain. You can use it to mint, you can use buy um you can buy, you can use, you can do that, you can actually make purchases on blockchain. So now you know. Thank you so much. If I want to buy now, um, you can buy when you create a wallet. You have to create a wallet."],[125,"And is it very expensive to buy? Yeah. Onearium is about um almost $3,000 right now. Yeah. But you can buy you can start small. You can buy um you can buy as low as $1 worth of"],[142,"So, all you need is to create a wallet. I recommend using the P app. You have an onchain wallet here and it's like a social media app as well. You can also use metam mask or rainbow wallet as well and um you just put your card or and then you buy or you can also buy a device app on supported in Nigeria as well. So yeah or somebody can even send you"],[169,"Abraham. Okay. Um I have a question for you. Um what is your You've never heard of before? Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Bye. Hi, I'm Kafani and we meet. Hi, F. You look so beautiful. Um, I have a question for you. Um, what is Eter? What is Earium? I have no idea. What? You've never heard of Eterum before?"],[203,"No. Not at all. Have you heard of Webp? No. Cryptocurrency? Yes, I've heard about it, but like I can't actually define us or like explain what it means to you."],[215,"Yeah. Um, but what have you heard of any type of cryptocurrency? I doubt I'm not really wise like I'm not sound cuz I know I know they talk about like what's it called? Forex all those stuff, but is it crypto and what you said earlier? I can't remember. I don't. Yes, I don't think. Hi, I'm Kafani and with me is"],[235,"Bori. Hi. Hi, I'm Bori. I would like to ask you a question. Um, what is Ethereum? Is a money? Bitcoin money. Okay. Okay. You've not heard of Bitcoin?"],[248,"Bitcoin. I've heard about I've heard of those things, but like what they are, how they just know they're common guys and everything. I don't know."],[258,"Um, but you know, ladies still use cryptocurrency. Oh yeah, we do. I use I use Ethereum and Ethereum is a um type of cryptocurrency that you use to create um do transactions and um transactions which include minting, doing gas fee, buying stuff all on the blockchain. So it's like a type of cryptocurrency like Bitcoin like meme coins, dodgecoin, USDT, USDC, those are all cryptocurrencies."],[287,"Yeah. So now you know or you have an idea of what is. So I hope you take the time to actually check and like read about what"],[295,"Hi guys, I'm Kafani and with me is to Okay. Hi to like the song Mo I don't know but that's an actual song. Um I have a question for you. Um what is Ethereum?"],[310,"I've never heard of it in my life. But you've heard of cryptocurrencies? I heard of cryptocurrencies. What um cryptocurrencies do you know? Bitcoin. Dogecoin meme coin like"],[324,"well Eterum is also a cryptocurrency um yeah you can use it to um do transactions on the blockchain um you can swap you can do gas fees and basically it's a cryptocurrency and so would you like to use Ethereum? I would like to"],[342,"somebody I don't know. But you don't you don't even know what Ethereum is. Do you do you have a wallet? No, I have a wallet."],[351,"So you you literally are not a web three person. You have no knowledge of web three? Nope. I have never Okay. So um should I send you some Ethereum?"],[360,"Yeah, send me some Ethereum. Okay. Um let's do this. Um I'm going to be creating Professing some Ethereum. Okay. So, you'll need a wallet to get Ethereum. And um I recommend you downloading today's app to get your first ever Ethereum app."],[374,"Yeah. On the app store. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's it. This app for Coinbase. Okay. He has downloaded this app. Um settings and I think you have to save your password and your seed phrase. You do not do it to anybody cuz you can get hacked. Never share your seed phrase ever. And so you save it or you save the pass key for your base app and you sign in and basically you have your wallet."],[399,"You want to sign in? Yeah. Yeah. I will send you. Welcome to the B app. Can you see it? Okay. So create an account. He's signing in and he will be having his first ever wallet. My username should be"],[420,"Well, you can pick whatever username you like. and he has created his first ever wallet on base on the base app and now I will be sending him Ethereum. Okay, so um to has opened his first ever wallet on the base app and now I'll be sending him $5 worth of Ethereum on the base app. Um yeah, so um what do you have to say?"],[448,"Was it good? No problem. Um, so you just send me your wallet address. Um, send it on WhatsApp. Let me add you myself on WhatsApp. Uh, so I am going to like get it on my WhatsApp"],[465,"as Yeah. So this is his address. Okay. I'm going to copy it and send you um Ethereum. This is Ethereum. We're going to be sending him some Ethereum. $25 on debt."],[523,"Okay. Have you seen it? And yeah. Okay. I'm glad I unboarded you to I'm glad I on boarded you on chain and I'm glad you now know what Ethereum is. According to Google, Ethereum is a decentralized open-source blockchain platform that acts as a world computer for running smart contracts and DABs without intermediary. If you've watched this video to this point, now you definitely know what Ethereum is. You're welcome. I'm Kafani and I'll see you in my next video. Bye."]]},{"id":"0z1AGIBN3do","slug":"what-nigerians-think-of-america-lagos","title":"What do Nigerians think of America?","place":"Lagos","who":"Kafani","paras":[[0,"This is for poidh and We Them Media. I am Kafani and today at I'll be asking people what their opinion of America today is. I have a question for you. When you hear the US, what comes to your mind?"],[15,"Racism. What's your opinion on the US? When you hear US America, what do you think of school shooting? School shooting. Your opinion on the US? What do you think about the US? The US US country right?"],[30,"Yes. America. Uh my opinion about US first of all is the currency the US dollar I mean it has large value compared to other countries. I don't know"],[41,"why. Well due to like social media like videos I watch on social media. Uh they discriminate the darker skin like if you anybody from another country they normally treat you like trash or something like that like you're different or something. So I feel it's also a red flag for their for their country."],[63,"Why like why why do you why is that what comes to mind? Because since they allow guns in America and it's very like illegal, people misuse the opportunity and they kill people that are innocent, especially children."],[78,"Wow. Wow. That's actually deep. That's such a deep dig. Um what else do you think of when you think of America? white people. Okay. What about white people?"],[93,"Because I'm not because I'm in I'm Africa, so I'm used to seeing black people. So apart from the fact that they racist, I still admire their white skin color."],[104,"What's your opinion in general? Aside from racism, what's your opinion of the US in general? I'll just say places like New York, their thrift store is attractive. So I would like to go to places like New York to like go for shopping and yeah they are fashion fashion sense."],[121,"Okay. What do you like about the US aside from the currency? Outside the currency everybody wants to go to US. I don't know. I don't know what's what's going on in the US. Do you guys have what we don't have over here in Nigeria? Everybody wants to go to US. I think it's because of their oil. Do they have oil?"],[137,"I don't know. Do they have oil in the US? I don't know. But every everybody wants to go to US. I think it's because of their tourist attraction. Yeah, we can also see something like that tourist attraction and the people are friendly to an extent though."],[150,"I have a question for you. What is your opinion on the US? What when you hear the US, America? What do you think? Uh, it's a nice place. I would say it's a nice place, but I don't have any opinion yet because Nigeria is the best for me."],[167,"And Nigeria is the best place. Nigeria is best. There's money in Nigeria. Well, well, if I want to go to the US, all I just want to go is just explore, just see how exhibitions cuz I'm based more on art. So, if I can walk just if I'm walking in just three or more months and I'm back. So, Nigeria there's money go a"],[190,"Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. You're welcome. What's your perception of the US? What do you think about America? Generally, I don't really have much about them. I don't know about I don't know about them. So, I don't really have perception. I just think it's a place and uh we have the top boys there. That's gangs actually."],[214,"Oh, okay. That's okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Thank you. What is your perception of the US? What's your opinion of the US? Um what exactly pertaining to what? Okay, maybe fashion, food, movies, politics, whatever. Like what's your opinion? Your general opinion of G US?"],[234,"Well, in terms of movies, I think um they actually leading in the world. Like they have the best movies currently and they are actually the ones um how should I say it? They control the market movie currently. Yes. So um when we're looking at statistics when you're looking at the box office they are leading in the world currently. When we look at movies like Avengers, movies like Avatar, then there's a new franchise um now. So we don't know how it will do compared to the former franchise."],[271,"So you've heard what people have to say about America today on the streets of Yabate. I personally would love to visit New York City in America someday and I think America is just a fun a fun it's actually a fun place for the fashion girlies the um shopping giries art and you know I don't know but aside from that I don't really have any video of us today. Thank you Kafani out and I'll see you in my next video. Bye."]]},{"id":"TT5Wu6OCUTs","slug":"how-nigeria-has-changed-a-lifetime-in-the-market","title":"How Nigeria has changed","place":"Lagos market","who":"John Bayode","paras":[[0,"Jim, my name is John B. This is for poidh and We Them Media. So we've been interviewing some of our old women here in the market to ask them about how the world has changed in their lifetime and how it has affected them or how it has changed them. So come along as we interview our mama here. So and let's hear what she has to say about that person. Good afternoon ma'am. Uh my name is John and um we are interviewing random old women to just ask them about how the world has changed in their lifetime and how it has affected them. Um so that's question"],[37,"good afternoon. How are you? Fine. How is your during our time things as things is not as it is now? during the during the the days when we were young. Let me start from the education aspect of in terms of education when we were young. We we faced a lot of thorough education from the primary level up to secondary school level up to level. Initially we went through primary education to modern school education there was what we call modern school education after primary school teachers college secondary school you will start from then the you pass through the other school then you will start from form one. Mhm. Finish at from five. But"],[106,"these days it is no more like that. You go to go to nurs primary school to primary school to secondary school to tary institution. Academically it has affected most of these material especially if their background is not as solid as as it should be. It used to affect them educationally and that is why you see some graduates cannot speak two correct sentences when you get to graduates and some they can they can be fluent because they will be using English language get with them when they were young yet when they get to higher institution some of them are not complete is but then there wasn't nothing like it in"],[166,"terms of economic activities learning our own time things were money were scarce there was no enough money our own time to to enjoy life for instance when we are young in the primary school we used to go to schools barefooted without sugar. But later but this time around you can hardly see a a a student of nursery primary school that will not put on shoe as well as then there was then there was little money. So, but now whoever wants to buy a television now and does not have up to 600,000 700 700,000 cannot afford it. So, economically things has changed. The price of goods and services has"],[230,"moved up seriously. And in terms of work for school levers, then there was work for school levers. You are a graduate then nearly you pass out of the university government you will be given a car a driver as a graduate but this time around if you are a graduate even if you have your MSE there is no work so things are changing rapidly and it is not favoring the whole nation at large look at What happened to this economy? That is why our people our children are moving out of the country mass to another country to seek for greener pasture which should not be. So"],[283,"all things has changed and social life of our of our people have changed seriously and that is why some children now move to be involved in fraud criminal activities and all those things. They involve themselves in jawu practices in ritual practices and all those things during that during our days there wasn't anything like that. You can even move freely in the nights without stress without problem. Now it is a a situation where now you cannot move out of your house after 12 otherwise they will kidnap such people. So things are changing rapidly and they are not is not beneficiary to everybody terms of marriage. Some friends these days are not ready to"],[350,"get married because there was no there was no financial backing that amazed them to get married even after 30 40 years. Some men are still are still not ready to get married and the reason is there was no money there was no steady work for graduates after leaving schools. Likewise, women or girls rather, some of them not ready to get married because of the affecting the population of the country because some people some people these days some men and some women and men these days even when they get married and there is little or No disagreement between themselves. They can force themselves. So this is all that are happening in the"],[414,"country these days. They are not okay. So we can only pray for God's intervention. If God intervene and if the government of the country lost every member of the country, there is going to be changes in the situation."]]},{"id":"16gGcoy6sqE","slug":"social-anxiety-nigeria-student-interview","title":"Social anxiety in Nigeria","place":"Lagos","who":"John Bayode","paras":[[0,"Um GMGM um my name is John B and um this for We Them Media and for this week episode we'll be asking different people um about their take on social anxiety and right here with me I have Mr. um Ado"],[16,"uh Mr. If you are being asked um what does social anxiety means? Like what comes to mind? Yeah, social anxiety. It means like something like stage fright. Yeah. Something like stage frights. Occurrence of stage fright. You know when they call you out on the stage to come and like say something to thousands of people understand? Thousands of people. Then you'll be like you can be afraid. Understand? You'll be afraid and um stuff like that. So you be like when they call you out on the stage to come and say something in front of thousands of people what's what's going to happen is that it's either you are looking down"],[55,"or you're looking side you are sweating or you're stammering either one of those things I said so well you can just um social anxieties it means like there are plenty definition of social anxiety you understand so but in my own thoughts my own thoughts I believe social anxiety is like when you're about to do something you've never done before and you're feeling scared about it and you miss like you lose like your feeling you lose your cool you some some people might even break down oneself"],[87,"okay yeah um thank you for that um okay my next question regarding that is u you're a student right as a student have you ever felt social anxiety about maybe an upcoming exam test or"],[102,"eventually I won't lie. I guess every student feels it social anxiety every time. But I'm not sure for others. I'm not sure for other student. But I feel like to me some most of my friends, most of my Yeah. friends and maybe relative, family members, they all feel it too. But I don't know about every other person cuz I've never met every other single person in this world. So well to me, yes. Mhm. when most people feel it"],[134,"at that moment. Um, this is more like a personal question. Like how does it feel like maybe just one of those moments? Like how do you feel? And"],[145,"the last the last time I felt social anxiety, you know, like I feel like I was going to die. I feel like I couldn't die."],[153,"So I feel like everything I was sweating. I like I couldn't answer a question correctly. Like I started stammering like like I was like I I I"],[168,"you know what you Yeah, I know what I wanted to see like it was in my mind but to me speaking it out you know thousands of people I was on the stage that time in school I was on the stage thousands of people on watching me all eyes on me you understand all eyes on me so everything just I I don't know how like everything just went black like I don't want"],[192,"right to me I feel like it's not a nice experience Yeah. So, um how do you now how do you plan on preventing something like that?"],[203,"Well, preventing something like I've um talked to myself about it that maybe next time when maybe next time when I'm on a stage or when they call me out on the stage, I have to like prepare before I even come out on the stage. I don't know if you get me. So like um preparing like what I mean is by maybe um practicing in front of a mirror, practicing in front of your family members what you're about to see when you get there, what you are going to see when you get there. Understand? Then especially that practicing in front of a mirror so you know that yeah you know"],[241,"that yeah maybe what you are doing you know how you're moving what you're saying you will be seeing it in front of the mirror like in the mirror. So you know whether you are doing it correctly or you are doing it right. No one is supposed to tell you no by yourself because you're looking at yourself. Then practicing in front of your family members. Obviously there are family members. But they can anything you do wrong they can correct you without being so harsh like harsh. Understand? So just like mirror your friends that you trust your trustworthy friends your mirror family and trustworthy friends"],[280,"that's that's actually interesting and another thing uh you know social anxiety can come in different forms uh so um as a student do you also feel anxiety about life after school or you just live your daytoday life from"],[295,"I used I used to I used to do that when I was in secondary like I was like oh my god what will happen when I'm done with secondary school life after school you know I'm going to write exams to enter uni"],[308,"then after uni I'm going to serve if I want to do my masters and everything so what's what will come after school like when I'm done with my whole process of school that's life after school so I felt like that before like felt like that"],[326,"now you don't well now to say I'm feeling it like right now. It's just like you know like I give a I give like how would I put it now but but at the same time I don't really give you conscious trying to plan your life. I'm trying to not on the point of being scared what will happen will definitely happen. There's no changing it. No changing. You can't you can't you can't rewrite your future. Understand? You can't rewrite it, bro. No, you can walk towards it, but you can't rewrite it. You know what is going to happen in the future is obviously going to happen."],[367,"Like we don't know. So what is going to happen is going to happen. So there's nothing you can do about it. That's just what I feel. So I'll be like whatever happens will happen. There's nothing I can do about it. What advice will you give to someone maybe that's watching this and feel anxious about maybe they want to take a next big step um in their life but they're always anxious about it. What advice you think you can give them that can be of"],[396,"advice? I'll just be like just it's better not to worry about what will happen in the future. You feel me? It's better not to worry about what will happen in the future. Instead, worry about what will happen what what will happen the next in the next step you take."],[413,"Okay? Understand? Like what you're going to do later on, not later in the future. H you don't get. Okay. What what that means is that when you if you worry about what you're going to do like me now like as I am now I'm worrying it's not like I'm worrying about what will happen in the future. I'm worrying about what will happen after this."],[435,"Okay. After this like what am I going to what am I going to eat? What is it I'm going to do? Am I going back to the hotel? Am I going to meet a friend?"],[443,"Um to get you right you mean um you try to like worry more like maybe two step step not like 100 step like that. So just forget about"],[458,"you might have like bad days, you might have like days that are not really good but just because a chapter in your life feels bad bad doesn't mean your whole entire life will crumble down. So just forget about it and just move on five steps ahead. That's it. That's what I really like."],[482,"That's what I think. Thank you very much for that. I really do appreciate your like you giving us your time to talk and stuff. So let's assume that I'm to approach another random person. Now which question do you think it makes sense for me to ask them?"],[498,"That one that one depends on you. No, no, no, no. You there are sometimes that you just have a question in your mind. I just like I would like to ask people just to hear their perspective."],[509,"You can just ask them how are they coping with their anxiety if they have one like if they feel one how do they cope with it so that everybody else can learn from themsel how do you cope on it? what steps you need to take in order to like forget about it as if what you see is relating to that."],[533,"So I think that's my biggest option for now. Thank you very much for your response. I really appreciate that. So that's all. Thank you very much. You have a nice day."]]},{"id":"WkCICP2Dtlw","slug":"verifying-income-you-cannot-see-onchain-credit","title":"Income verification, onchain lending, and neobanks","place":"New York","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"No one wants a CD, so you have a problem, like, you know, and Stablecoins is also solving that problem by making it easy to just send money to someone in, like, a second without having to, like, really adopt too much of the infrastructure and change, like, what you're doing. Yeah, and being able to, like, save in Stablecoins, right? I think outside of the US, we have, there are fundamental problems that actually, you know, that this technology is actually solving, like FX issues, like with the currency devaluation, that was actually the solution to a lot of the problems that we had when it comes to like being able to streamline that process of accessing credit, right?"],[42,"Yeah, so at Credentials, basically what we do is we provide a unified way for lenders, neobanks, and fintechs to be able to verify people's income in the digital economy that are earning from platforms like Shopify, YouTube, Upwork, TikTok, right? People that love to be decentralized, you know what I'm saying? This is for y'all. And also, rest in peace, Sugar Plum, that's my Shih Tzu. She died about 10 years ago. Appreciate you."],[70,"Woo-hoo!"],[73,"Yeah, you have questions right? Like, what did he just drink? Why is he honoring his late Shih Tzu at a basketball game? Who are the people even being decentralized? What does that mean? Well, that's why I'm here. Let's find out."],[93,"New York doesn't ease you in. You step out and you're already in it. A few million strangers, all going somewhere all at once. I grew up a couple hours away until close enough that New York was never some distant idea. It was a city you took the bus to or trained to. A place I get to go and see my friends from high school and college. That's the thing about this city, it's stacked, bodegas under glass towers, old New York holding up the new one And most new people have no idea what the old one even looked like. Oh, not you, sorry. This time I linked up with some friends out here in the city."],[126,"People are already connected, already part of what I came for, an Ethereum conference. The kind of room where we're negotiating where technology is going. But before any of that, you eat, you walk. You let the city remind you why people around the world dream of being here. And somewhere between these streets and the conference floor, that's where the story really starts. My name is Maceo Whatley and I'm the founder of We Them Media. Over the last five years, we've been researching how cryptocurrency and decentralized technology can empower everyday people around the world. And that's why I attended the Ethereum conference in New York City a couple weeks ago."],[160,"To better understand and share with you all how Ethereum is working to show Wall Street it is ready to be the global settlement layer for financial systems. And we're here to show you what it means. Let's go. Well, what's up, everybody? I'm out here. I'm Maceo from We Them Media. We're at ETH Conference right here in Manhattan. This is the first ETH Global conference they've ever organized. And I'm here with? Elon McCullough from Credentials. I'm the co-founder. Heck yeah. And so tell us a little about where are you from? So I'm from Houston, Texas. Okay. How old are you? 26. Okay. Wow. Like myself, 26."],[191,"Yeah, young. So what's it been like for you being a young builder in this ecosystem? A young black man building in this ecosystem? That's a very nuanced question. I think it's been great, right? Right. Like there's not many people that are our age and of our skin color. So being able to add that perspective. Building real products. Building real products. That's why I want to say that too. Exactly. There's not many people doing that. So being able to like be in these rooms with people that have all this experience and all this capital and everything like that. And also being able to provide value has really been like awesome to witness in this time period. Yeah. So. Okay. And so tell us a little about credentials."],[226,"Yeah, so at Credentials, basically what we do is we provide a unified way for lenders, neobanks, and fintechs to be able to verify people's income in the digital economy that are earning from platforms like Shopify, YouTube, Upwork, TikTok, right? We find that there's a huge problem in the world right now. These subset of earners really have a hard way or really have it hard when it comes to accessing credit. And we're basically here to make it very easy for them to access credit to get to get access to credit edit that part out hear that okay but that's cool that's cool and so how has it been for you actually working on this product"],[266,"things where you are right now how would you describe the face right now yeah so like um we've actually been working on this for some time now about two years um but over time the vision has gotten a lot more clear and i think it also has to do with timing as well this space really wasn't ready for what we were building like two years ago. But over time, like when you look at neobanks and fintechs, right, they've done everything from the stablecoinback cards. Then, you know, they're now in the yield phase, like yield products. But the next frontier is unsecured credit. And now the timing is starting to get a lot more ripe. And we're seeing a lot more interest in what we're building. So people can actually lend to individuals and businesses."],[314,"is through Crypto Rails. Yeah, yeah, and you know, it's remarkable. You're building, you're thinking about real use cases. You know what you just said, right, around lending. I think that's remarkable around credit, right? And I'm curious, like, what's your background? How did you even identify this as a problem? Like, how did you become qualified to even explore this design space, this problem space? Yeah, so two parts to this, actually. I first started off unqualified. I actually experienced the problem while in college with my co-founder. We had a website business, you know, We Were Just Like Making Money Like I Was Even A Freelancer To Making Money From Random Places"],[347,"But When I Tried To Access Credit They Asked For So Much Documentation Just To Reject Us In The End"],[356,"You Guys Been Doing Paperwork Though Man Like They Just Had Me Doing Paperwork And Stuff Like That So Look After That Like I Was Like Okay That's A Problem And You Know I've Heard This My Whole Life All These Types Of People That Are earning Online In Non-traditional Formats Really Struggle To Access Credit So like I didn't have the solution for it at the time. The solution came when I started to work at the Ethereum Foundation in specific PSE, privacy of scaling explorations at the time. And I worked on zero knowledge like proofs and like I was a lead lead dev row and I was onboarding people to open source tools. And that was actually the solution to a lot of the problems that we had when it comes to like being able to streamline that process of accessing credit. Right."],[402,"Right. So I put two and two together, the problem, the solution. And I'm like, oh, yeah, we need to start a company and do this thing. Right. So that's okay. And for those who don't know, like, what is what is your knowledge proofs mean? Yeah. So, you know, I don't actually explain this term too much, really, because he's overqualified to break it down. So let's hear it. Basically what zero knowledge proofs are is it's the ability to verify that you know a certain piece of information or a certain piece of data without actually revealing the underlying data itself. So in the case of like what we do, we can verify people's income without even seeing the data ourselves, right?"],[443,"how can you possibly do that it's you know that that that's fine you want but definitely it's just mathematics right at the end of the day is polynomials right you don't know polynomials that's okay we'll break it down don't worry yeah but yeah it's all just like mathematical equations that equal to a true or false statement right in the end so that's that's how it works okay awesome and who are the people that you're targeting to be used to your application like who are the people you're really solving a problem for yeah so we are beat to beat C2C company. So we kind of are solving the problem for two sets of people. The businesses being the"],[480,"neobanks, the lenders and the fintechs. They have no visibility into their like users of where their income sources are. So we're helping them make that a lot more clear so they can actually like give credit and expand their product offerings in this competitive like crypto space that we're in today. And then you also have the consumer that is actually the users of our, the customers that we aim for. And we're helping them, you know, be able to verify their income and share that with these institutions so they can access credit or whatever financial services, a credit card, buy now, pay later. So yeah, those are like the two sets of like users that we essentially are working for."],[527,"Okay, man. And congrats. Congrats on where you're at. I think it's awesome that you're right in that intersection and being able to serve people on both sides. It sounds like you're in a space with a massive market. Oh, for sure. Yeah. And you're an early mover. 26 and move it early. I like that. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And so what would you say is a long-term or are you trying to build to be like public infrastructure? And I guess I think of public goods is something that I like in this crypto space. I think it's really cool that we can see emerging. Does your product evolve to be a piece of decentralized technology?"],[556,"technology, or is it something privately owned in the long term? Yeah. There's no, it could be either. I'm just curious. Yeah, you know, even come from EF, like I'm very big on public good infrastructure. At this time, it is private, but I can definitely see- Get that money. Yeah. I can definitely see over time, like we'll begin to open source some of our like infrastructure to where like anybody will be able to verify their income without needing us to do so. But as of right now, it is like a private institution So you get that $1 billion EF grant Hey, then we can change some things"],[594,"Wow, that's sick, go ahead"],[599,"Yeah, I was going to talk about something else, but it's okay What were you thinking about? I was just thinking about like, you know We're also working outside in emerging markets as well To establish open banking Okay, we'll talk about that, yeah Yeah, like First of all, what is open banking for those who don't know Open banking is really just the ability To, you know, be able to access Financial statements From any bank, right Yeah, in a Compliant way And right now If you look at, like, countries like Ghana And Kenya, etc. There really is no Open banking infrastructure to be able To easily access your statements"],[644,"without needing to like do that whole PDF thing and everything like that. So we're actually in talks with the government and stuff on like building out open banking infrastructure as well. That's just like it's a long it takes a while to like close those things. But that's something I'm very excited about, like enabling open banking in these like emerging markets. No, I think that's incredible. I know that you were just in Africa. How has that shaped your perspective on the opportunity in that space? I'm curious to hear. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. You know, I'm Nigerian, too, at the end of the day. Isoko. Isoko. Damn, I didn't know that one."],[680,"It's a new one. You haven't heard of it, huh? Yeah, it's a smaller one. From where? What state? Delta state. Okay, okay, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isoko. Yeah, Isoko. So I would say, like, going to Africa and being in Africa really has opened my mind just in terms of, like, you know, how different it is from the West and how you also have to build for that region as well. It's not like you can just take a product from the West or take the product from the U.S. and just take it there and think that it'll work because it's not. It's fundamentally different. It's relationship and trust-driven."],[723,"and actually you know the market is just not is not as established as the United States so there's a lot of figuring out that needs to happen by being on the ground by actually talking to people and developing those relationships and that's something that I learned in my travels throughout Africa okay incredible incredible man and then my last question would be like you know when you see this ecosystem when you see this technology what do you feel like everyday people aren't getting or taking for granted that you know you could and how would you address that yeah so looking at this ecosystem right now um it's very institutional you know even if confident where we're at right now there's a"],[764,"lot of institutions that are here and that's cool um and it's that time for them to come in um but when you look at the west i think we're really focused on yield like if you look at actually look at all the booths here most of them are like yield driven right or institutional privacy, etc, etc. But honestly, like, that is not really the major focus outside of the US. I think outside of the US, we have, there are fundamental problems that actually, you know, that this technology is actually solving, like FX issues, where like with the currency devaluation, yeah, and being able to like save and stable coins, right? Or other problems in order to hedge against inflation."],[811,"Yeah, to hedge against it. Exactly. There are other problems like, you know, currencies are not actually communicating with each other. Like Nigeria and Ghana being right next to each other. Nobody wants that Naira. Nobody wants that Naira. No one wants the CD. So you have a problem. Like, you know, and Stablecoins is also solving that problem by making it easy to just send money to someone in like a second without having to like really adopt too much of the infrastructure and change like what you're doing. What I Want People To Realize Is The Use Cases Are Actually Abundant And They're Necessary Now You May Not See That In The West But Just Look Outside Look At Your Neighbouring Country Like Latin Has The Same Problems Africa Has The Same Problems Asia Has The Same Problems And I Think This Technology Was Really Fundamentally Built For Them Yeah Yeah Oh Yeah And You Have A Message For The Ecosystem A Message For The Ecosystem"],[872,"them. I'd say, you know, it's a bear market right now, but it's actually a builder's market. Actually, my friend Maceo told me that. Maceo. But Luciano told me that, so we're back to Luciano. Back to Luciano. Maceo, got you. Sorry about that. I called him Elo at first. That was wrong. We're both learning. Yeah. So it's a builder's market. And what I'd say to that is just like, you know, this is the best time to get the relationships and, you know, actually build what matters because when all the people start to come, that's when it's all annoying. But right now it's just signal. So just go out there and connect and build"],[911,"and create something great."],[914,"All right, man. You want to say where you're coming from one more time? Yeah, so coming from Houston, Texas and... Representing your company? Okay, coming from Houston, Texas, representing credentials. That's CR3Dentials."],[931,"And then we like to say Booyah to close out our interview So 3, 2, 1 Booyah"]]},{"id":"NKBsYvQM4m4","slug":"bitcoin-pizza-day-in-abuja","title":"Lorah on the ground in Abuja","place":"Abuja","who":"Lorah","paras":[[0,"Hello, beautiful people. My name is Lorah, and this is for We Them Media. I'm live here in the city of Abuja, Nigeria, celebrating the biggest day in the history of crypto, the Bitcoin Pizza Day. Make some noise! So in this place, 16 years ago, a man traded two boxes of pizza for 10,000 BTC. Yes, you heard me right. 10,000 BTC. Mind-blowing, right? So come with me as I interview different people, show you around, and give you a summary of the event. I'm super excited! Let's go!"],[46,"Hi, I'm Lorah. I'm with Me Them Media. Can I know your name? Hi, my name is Rahmar. Nice to meet you guys. What do you do? Like, take space? Do you do anything take key? You're free? Actually, I'm something where you call like an event mascot. I go where the vibes are in general. That's what's up. Alright, that's good. Is this your first pizza event? Yes. So how excited are you? Fun fact, someone actually gave me their ticket and I knew I had to come. So I know I have very high expectations. I'm hoping the team can actually deliver. So let's see. They will definitely deliver"],[82,"So how many slices of pizza can you eat? At a goal? In my fit farm era, around 50 50? Slice! At a goal? At a goal Trust me to the I'm here Last question Okay, okay Describe pizza without using the word pizza Ah, you, you, you They said the question to be easy It's easy Someone that don't know what it is How can you describe the word without using it? only one word or like in sentence is not described anyhow i would say food coma food coma food coma like a food coma okay thank you so much i really appreciate it it's an honor to meet you i really love your vibes"],[124,"it's no questions it's your questions hi good afternoon you guys look gorgeous today thank you my name is laura can i know your names my name is bright all right okay um today is bitcoin pizza day Is this your first event? Is this your first pizza bitcoin event? Yes So what are you expecting today? Like what is your biggest expectation? I'm expecting massive pizza giveaway, I'm expecting joy Giveaway, what are you expecting? Pizza Pizza especially, how many boxes of pizza can you eat? Boxes, not slices Oh my god! How many slices of pizza? Just one, one slice Alright, I hope you have fun today, thank you so much"],[166,"Thank you What's your name? My name is Perl, how are you doing? I'm good. Today is Bitcoin Pizza Day and what are your expectations for today's event? Well, I expect to eat lots of pizza and also... You expect to eat lots of pizza? How many pizzas can you finish? I can finish half. That's like half box of pizza, right? It seems you are good. No, I'm not. I'm not. Anybody can eat half. Alright, thank you so much. Can I know your name? I'm Matthew What do you do?"],[225,"I'm into buildings I'm a builder Alright, so do you know what today is about? What pizza day? I said you should come out and eat pizza How much do you like pizza instead of one step? Eight How many slices of pizza can you eat at a goal? A goal"],[249,"Three Three slides, you are not much of it Thank you so much for your time My name is Grace Grace, you are so fun Thank you Alright, is this your first event? Yes, this is my first event Bitcoin and whatever event at all This is my first event Right now, how can you rate it?"],[278,"To be honest, I would say I would say a 7"],[285,"That's fair, but why That's fair, that's fair, because, I don't know, it's a bit not like I expected, somehow, not organized I think it's because Pisa is not getting it Maybe You'll give it a 10 over 10 Maybe So let's do it What we'll do Okay, in the Web3 space, I'm a community manager That also creates videos, by code, automate, and those two, all of that They're genius Not like that for sale but just around the angle Thank you so much I really appreciate you talking to me"],[330,"I can see you are really enjoying this pizza Honestly we don't want to get it, rate it Ten Ten This one is Ladi Make sure you don't miss it like this High point to you, it's not that nice But what about you?"],[364,"Tix I'm here with a beautiful host and I know your name and what to do Hi, my name is Great Lady. I'm an event host and I'm into Web3 full-time. I'm also a trader. Alright, that's very, very good. So, what do you think about today's event? How was the planning? How was the management? Can you just give us a summary of how you brought in this great event?"],[391,"Yeah, the planning went successful as you can see. Everybody's having fun. We did a lot of networking, a lot of teaching about Web3. The pizza was really, really tasty. I really enjoyed the pizza. I really did. Thank you so much for your time. You're welcome."]]},{"id":"uRiZBwpOP5M","slug":"the-tiny-phone-and-a-peer-to-peer-plugin","title":"John and an OG Pizza DAO member, shot on an iPad from the floor","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"This is the smallest Android phone you can get. The Unihertz Jelly Star, people should buy this because I want this company to stay in business. What's it called? The Unihertz Jelly Star, it says it right here, like a little Unihertz. Okay, Unihertz Jelly Star. Yeah, they even make weird phones. They're doing all kinds of cool stuff, but this is one of the phones. It's basically It's the smallest Android phone. It's got Android 13, 8 gigs of RAM. It's like pretty solid phone, but it doesn't work for scrolling content. So I can't do scroll on Reddit. I can't like browse crypto Twitter. I can't go on Facebook. Well, you can, but you can barely see it."],[47,"Yeah, but it works just well enough to use Signal and Uber. Yeah, it's not fun. It makes a phone less addicting and less interesting. Yeah, it's less dopamine. It's less immersive. Yeah, but when I do get a link, I do want to read, which inevitably happens, but I have to send it to myself. and primarily I use Signal note to self and that works except the downside of Signal is for instance you can only link five devices so if I have more than five devices I can't I literally can't link all my devices through Signal even if I wanted to right and then so you have to either create other messenger accounts you use email it's all really complicated involves having an email having a login having a cloud server"],[102,"But, so there's better tech for this. You can just do pure peer-to-peer. So I wrote a browser plug-in that will peer-to-peer sync text data between all the instances. Yeah, and because it's a browser plug-in, I can just install this as a plug-in in the browser of this tiny little phone. And you don't need a full Android app. Yeah, the Miracle peer-to-peer. You don't need a cloud server. You can just connect your devices. Well, you do. You need what's called a relay server, but that's a bit different. It's a much lighter weight. It never stores your data. It just helps devices make connections to each other."],[152,"Yeah, this is the phone. so when did you get this? a year and a half ago it's made 18 months it's like fairly durable spend less time on the internet it's also amazing if you just like biking biking right like if I ride a bike everywhere you just have that much more pocket space this will make you realize though like how much screen you're wasting like I can do everything on this phone you you have like some gigantic thing it's like you're wasting the screen but yeah maybe oh no this is all I have phones yeah make another small phone hardware engineers like I want another four-inch like mini phone they made me"],[213,"competition like this is the only one like it's sad we're not the only one but it's like the only good one with a headphone jack yeah this has a headphone jack which all your big phones don't have yeah yeah 256 gigabytes yeah does all the Magical Things. Is there a wallet in here? You could. I don't put any crypto on this. That's a bad idea. It's like a hardware wallet. But you could, you can, any like phone wallet, you can run on here. You can do all your crypto. Do you want to see if you made up in your mirror? Do you want to interview it?"],[263,"What the? I don't interview people, but you should go for it."],[273,"One day I said I did"],[282,"I'm gonna pass, but"]]},{"id":"337E8mPwhW8","slug":"moon-dust-erc-721-and-what-crypto-owes-the-real-world","title":"William Entriken, lead author of ERC-721","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"All right, excellent. So, what's up, everybody? I'm Maceo, here at We Them Media. And what's your name? Will Entrykan. Will Entrykan. And where are you from? Philly. Okay, how old are you, if I can ask? 41. 41, okay. And how did you find your way to the Bitcoin Pizza Day? Pizza Day here is the best. It's the best community in the scene, and it's connected to the NFT Philly scene. Very well. Yeah. And how's the party been? Epic. It's always the best. It's a new venue here, so it's nice to see that they're trying new things. things also because the other venue wasn't available, but yeah, and there's no band this"],[34,"year, but we did have plenty of music. Yeah, yeah, and the vibes were cool, and I've seen, I think this is the third venue I've seen over the last four years, and it's super dope to see new people here, old people here, I think it's always for me having an annual time to see the crypto community in the city. The best part. I brought my 83-year-old great-great aunt last year, she was really tired, and I said, I've been here for way too long, you know, but she wasn't saying that. And she'll be back here next year. We'll see, she's not talking to me right now."],[59,"We'll see, but you know, that's just famous stuff. So you're the person who created the ERC721 token standard? Lead author. Lead author. Okay. There's four authors, yeah. Okay. Who are your co-authors? So Dieter Shirley is the creator. Okay. He is the second author. And we have two others in the community too. Okay. Are they like not doxed? I think their names are out there, but. It's okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm just offering the opportunity to recognize them. There's no pressure. Yeah, we got four authors and they're all contributors and it's, you know, it's a great flashback. Okay, okay. And for people who don't, like, I see Bitcoin as the fight against fiat."],[100,"Yeah. How do you see Ethereum? Ethereum is, I just see it as Vitalik's creation and I'd like to see him let it go. But I think the community around Ethereum is larger than that. And I feel like we are the people that are struggling to connect the real world to the future world. it's a very community effort and that's where it is right now and what do you think about like that journey right like the real world and that's kind of why I asked you that question right in those terms I was hoping you kind of give some analogy right yeah so I'll give you the NFT so if Bitcoin is the challenge to fiat money then Ethereum would be the challenge to centralized control value and you know programs programs relating to value and securities but NFT is really the connection to specific individual"],[150,"The applications that I've worked on have been related to very commercial things just outside of the cryptosphere. Agriculture, royalty payments of things unrelated to crypto. And now we're starting to see stocks come in here. So I think that is the most important thing is, you know, the world's very big. Crypto is a small part. And so if we can continue to do that, we can continue to do that. I like that. I like that. Why should my grandma care? She doesn't need to care. If your grandma was in Argentina, she would know about Bitcoin already because everybody knows over there. When we have a stable currency, it doesn't matter. But when you are in an economy that has a currency that, you know, when you're trying to buy foreign currencies just to keep your retirement money safe, that's when you really know about crypto."],[204,"When you're even just thinking about inflation or inflation. The funny thing, so I was in Argentina, and I was talking to people, they were saying how they put their retirement funds into Bitcoin, and I said, oh my god, that's so volatile. Bitcoin goes up, Bitcoin goes down, they're like, yeah, but the Argentine peso just goes down and down and down. At least Bitcoin goes up sometimes. I like that one. So no offense to the peso, and it has changed a lot since that statement, which was a couple of years ago. But, you know, you've got to think in other people's perspective and from the US dollar,"],[233,"that might not be the global perspective. So comparing Bitcoin versus one specific currency might not represent what a lot of people are thinking. I appreciate that. And I guess, do you feel like Ethereum is fulfilling on its mission right now in a podcast called Let's Talk About Ethereum around the world, and you know, we're talking to builders in different countries around the world while I've met going to conferences, like essentially the circuit, right? Yeah. And thinking about, right, what people are building and ideally trying to draw parallels between people working in like non-profit industries, you know, thinking about public goods and people in crypto thinking about public goods."],[265,"I think they kind of exist in silos. Yeah. But I think if we can draw those parallels to people who have, you know, legacy knowledge. What is public goods? You're asking me? Yeah, you got to. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would say a public good is like anything that if it exists, it can serve everybody. It's like people think about the free rider problem, but I think in the capitalist society we apply the free rider problem to too many things. I think it's okay to be a free rider on health care, on education. I'd rather you eat my educated neighbor than my ignorant neighbor. Are ignorant neighbors working out for us?"],[292,"I mean, so does public goods, does that include DeFi? Does that include DeFi? If there's tokens, if there's holders of tokens, does that include L2s? I think they could be public goods. I think it's about the infrastructure. Are they extractive in nature or are they regenerative in nature? Those would be the questions I would ask most immediately. You're bringing some personality. I appreciate the levity. It's a serious conversation. I would say, is my bank funding my education or my health care or anything worthwhile or is it just making people rich? Circular economy, ownership, equity. These are concepts that are Perhaps DeFi can help us better understand and apply. I think you would get more mileage out of that understanding by reading Graeber and, you know, some of the anarchist books or whatever, and work with the direct action in the real world rather than crypto. So the real world is always going to be better than, you know, the financial world. And if we just relegate crypto to finance and, you know, a few specific applications, then that would be the tail wagging the dog."],[357,"So if that's if that's what you're taking away here, I think we can take that mindset away. I have a specific name for this. I call this moon dust. So like Bitcoin, Ethereum, this is on the moon, right? We're saying go to the moon, go to the moon. Well, why don't we just take some of that dust and bring it back to the earth? You know, some of the things that we've learned about stakeholder engagement, you know, ownership, allowing your customers to own your product, involving them in the decision making at the deepest levels of ownership of your company. Like these are things you can do in the real world."],[383,"So I don't think that needs to be exclusive to crypto But because of the people that are physically there now We're getting a population bias of the type of people that are building in a sandbox So it's fun, but these are ideas that are bigger than us, bigger than crypto And bigger than, frankly, all the people that are near this stuff So I love what you're thinking with this And I don't want to keep that in crypto I don't want to say that's a crypto thing I want to say that's an us thing Which thing, Phil? When you're pointing to this moon dust, what's the us thing?"],[412,"The Us would be your concept of, you had a name for it, it was, you know, stakeholders, not stakeholders, you said, you know, public goods And the free rider problem Yeah, but we can implement that concept here You know, you can just buy a pizza shop and you can publish your finances and vote for your staff and vote for the amount of money that your staff makes using a DAO But you don't have to use a DAO, you can just use the receipts and you can have QR codes on the receipts that you sell Yeah, you can say the whole organization structure is not at all profit-centric, but it's self-sustaining and still creates value for the community."],[443,"You said it doesn't have to be profit-centric. I'm just saying it can be. It's an option. But you can have multiple layers. B-corporations don't have to be anti-profit. It could be a spectrum. We're unlocking a spectrum. Right. So these are the concepts that we've tried. And so we can point to these test cases and we can bring them back. Switch topic. In the beginning of crypto, we were all thinking about self-custody and hardware wallets. and people are thinking, oh, my God, how am I going to get my family member who's older into this ecosystem if they have to write these 12 words down? They say, well, that's not how it's going to work."],[475,"They're going to use a custodial wallet. Somebody's going to hold their money for them. Oh, my God, that's anti-crypto. No. What's going on is the first people that came to crypto were hardcore. And so that's a bias. You know, not everybody's going to be like that. So when we bring the rest of the world in, of course, they're going to do the same type of banking with crypto that they do banking with money, right? So as the thing expands, you're going to meet them where they are, right? So let's take that with public goods That's an amazing thing, but the fact that we are using public goods in crypto right now is only specific because the people that are there now"],[506,"The first people that are crypto obviously are you know self-sustaining and they don't need jobs, right? So they can think of these other stakeholders, but the people that have jobs, you know We have to convince them that there are other stakeholders in life. We have to convince them of how they can you know structure themselves and so that is the dust so we've been to the moon we're coming back and we're bringing the dust and we're sprinkling it around yeah value systems just values we're bringing the values back well making them more explicit and then like it's the flag so we're bringing the We're rallying around this new flag that we saw work under, let's say, if you believe that DeFi is a public good. Could be, might be, might not be."],[554,"I would say so. I would say so. When I think of Aave, I don't know, is Aave owned by somebody? So, pin it down. Why is it a public good? I mean, the reason that I would say that is the premise is that it's decentralized finance, right? As opposed to it being a bank that's making money off of me. Like, I can go and buy ownership in their token, right, which gives me exposure to the upside of the organization. buy shares in Capital One and you could bank in Capital One. How's that different? I think that's a good question. I think that it's on the blockchain and there's like explicit rules for governance which are allowing people who can, anybody anywhere in the world can buy access to it. That's not true with Capital One."],[588,"Capital One also has explicit rules for governments and they have the Board of Governors. This is a trick question. Is it borderless? Is it like borderless still like Capital One? The rules are enforced. The rules cannot be rug pulled. So that's the thing that's missing here is that the... I was hoping it was that it's in America so I mean it is it you know it's global nothing is American companies are not American you know because the shareholders could be anywhere so I feel like but some like I went to the Caribbean for the Oasis on chain and they were talking about people there can't"],[616,"get access to buying what certain stocks and things like that because they're like blacklisted from the US like stock exchange and so there are markets right which aren't able to I mean I can buy Chinese shares through ADRs there's always a way to do it which then what's then under a previous president they had The Fire Sell Them. So I'm cutting my legs out of that argument. But you can travel to buy your shares where you want. But I think the offer that crypto has is that it's a rules-based system. You know, America was founded as a rule-based system. It has values, you know, we the people. That was the value statement. But then the enforcement is a rules-based order. And so the international order we say now is a rules-based order. It's not actually that."],[666,"So if the rules are what makes the things valuable, then having the rules be the fundamental part of your system, aka smart contracts, then that is a more perfect implementation of what you're trying to do as a public good. So I want to test your thesis because we do have stakeholders, we do have bylaws in the U.S. in corporate finance, and so we have to see what is the missing nugget, and it is the actual enforceability. Would you agree that Ethereum is the only DAO today? DAO? No? Alright. To be continued."],[702,"A lot of DAOs are like this."],[712,"Uh, this is my. It really probably is the only DAO. It's the only DAO. Name a DAO. Name a DAO."],[726,"We Them Media, Maceo, Will, and Maceo"]]},{"id":"rb54mUD72r8","slug":"the-real-free-trade-and-an-arena-on-chinatown","title":"Scarlett on crypto as the real free trade, and Philadelphia politics","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[1,"Okay, so, um, are we gonna start? Yeah, right now. She's at 1232. Apparently, she's like one of the oldest Pizza DAO members, which is pretty sick. So, she's next after you. So, you should be honored. You're proceeding great. Oh, yeah. What a great honor. Welcome, welcome. Oh, she, if she wants, she can go first. No, you're going first. It's too bad. So, what's your name? Scarlett. Okay, where are you from? I'm from, um, Philadelphia. Yeah, but I'm originally from China. Okay, grateful, grateful. And how are you? You know, in China usually they don't ask this question Because I've been doing journalism, I've been trying to get profiles of people to kind of be able to document demographics"],[42,"I'm in my 30s Oh, thanks! Okay, and what brings you out to Pizza Day today? To Pizza Day, so it's more from my friend Will, he's very connected to the community Okay, go ahead, I can hold it if you want Yeah, no, that's fine. Yeah, so he's the author for the ERC 721. Yeah, for the blockchain. That's a big deal. Yeah, I guess he's a big guy and he's very connected with the community and he told us about this event and he said like this is the annual event for the Pizza DAO and actually I was quite involved with all the DAO, the NFT because I was working as his assistant."],[87,"so I've been to the NFT conference in New York City in Miami so yeah I've seen some of the things and I'm interested in the technology. I want to stay up to date. I have a question. What's most exciting to you and what's most confusing to you? what's the most exciting for me yeah I think what mostly I'm exciting for me is like I guess the decentralized the decentralized of the yeah of the crypto and so we're not we can really be our true sell we're really not gonna be manipulated by any governments or organization and also yeah it's like a it's almost like really the free trade the real free trade anybody who has a"],[159,"need for transaction they can go to their crypto and they don't have to be They are governed by the government or organization. I think that's really cool about it. And like the DAOs, it's like you're forming your own organization or group of people who have similar thoughts, like a vision. So, yeah, I think that's what I'm most excited about. If you don't have anything that's confusing to you, what do you feel like confuses most people that you feel like you have some insight on, or like for the person that knows nothing, what would you tell them to start? I guess I probably like I can speak"],[206,"most about the NFT, they call it non-fungible token, it's based on the blockchain and also So there are a lot of usage of the NFT is not only I know it's like a big on the arts like they have a lot of some of the auction like of the NFT arts they were auctioned for high price that's how people get to know it but also there's also other functionality of you can use it for yeah because you can logistically it can be like as non-fungible so it can it's very unique you know like like a barcode we can run out of it but we can use the NFT to identify a specific item and make it unique"],[256,"Okay, and then I'm going to pivot. I'm curious, how long have you been here in the U.S.? You say you were from China originally? Um, like 2010? 2010? Quite a long time. I'm curious like coming into the U.S. from China, how would you say you described how we evolved?"],[278,"I love Philly. I think Philly is really cute, cozy, melting pot. So as we know, the US is like a melting pot. It's very diversified and people are creative and open-minded and also Philly, it is two people are friendly, welcoming, I mean, you just feel like you belong to here. Also not to mention like Philly also because it was like the first capital and has a lot of really beautiful historical, historic architectures. So it's like also very cute, beautiful city to visit and the people are very nice and friendly."],[328,"Do you know they were trying to put a basketball stadium in Chinatown? Do you know about that? Oh yeah, I've heard of it and I know there were protests. I don't know if you have any thoughts, but you don't have to have any thoughts. That's all. I'll just ask. Um, no, I, yeah, I'm like, I don't know. I know, in Chinatown doesn't mean you have other thoughts, but I would just ask. No, I do. I do. I can speak of my mind. I'm not afraid to, like, because I don't want to stand on the left side or right side. I just want to speak my mind. I feel like, because I like basketball. Growing up in a family, like, my dad has really liked watching NBA, and I've taken them to a lot of basketball games here, and six, we support, like, Sixers,"],[380,"and I've been to the stadium at the Wells Fargo in South Philly and I just feel like I don't know what's like the meaning of really bring it to like nearby the Chinatown because I think the the Wells Fargo one is like good it's already a good one and it has a lot of space for parking and it has the train the subway get you there as well so I don't know what's the purpose of What's the purpose of bringing the stadium to Chinatown because I'm more afraid that because of that it may cause more inconvenience for people who want to just go to Chinatown or who really live in there and also for the businesses that are already there."],[435,"I just don't want to hurt authenticity and cause inconvenience, but I'm not trying to stand on my side or whatever. I think what you said is perfect, right? You just don't understand what's the incentive and why does this make sense? I think you're asking a really good question."],[459,"Yeah, no problem. Thank you for the interview. They want to put a stadium in Chinatown. Philadelphia has one of the longest in Chinatowns in the country. Yeah, and it's a special place. It's very cultural. And it's also some of the people's favorite spot to visit on the weekend. and people like to go to dim sum there and also bubble tea and also just the end of the gate is very pretty. It shows my culture, heritage. I mean don't get me wrong, I love basketball. I like NBA."],[500,"Yeah, I like basketball and I want to keep supporting it but I just don't say like you said. what it has to be in Chinatown it can be like there and also especially the city is already very packed like of course you want a big stadium you want to have a place convenient for people to visit and also you want to be able to host a large crowd imagine we already have so many traffic jam in the cities we have narrow streets and imagine we bring like too much too much too many people that we can we cannot color it, we cannot stand. It's gonna cause inconvenience. And I just need a little bit more justification for the benefits."],[547,"As you should, as you should. It's really nice to meet you. Yeah, nice to meet you. I'll keep watching your channel. It's pretty cool. You see, we're like crypto, but we're also doing cultural journalism. We're holding them accountable. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Keep it going."],[568,"Yeah, you should. You should follow us on Twitter, too. Yeah, and also I like it. As you should. I like that. Yeah, I want to watch our anchor. You'll see a lot of them. I'm trying to do like 15 to 20 interviews tonight."],[584,"Yeah, yeah. What was your name one more time? Scarlett. Scarlett, yeah. Maceo. Oh, Maceo."],[599,"Don't forget your other drinkers there."]]},{"id":"KmRVC9cx6bs","slug":"the-seven-year-fight-to-caption-hollywood","title":"Carol on deaf rights, and her family taking on Hollywood’s ADA exemption","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"third in the world. First, first oil, then automobiles, then a Hollywood. That was 1990s when I had it. When I say I had it, about what specifically what being a mixed deaf and hearing family, you couldn't go to a damn American movie to get it. Why? because Hollywood got itself excluded from the ADA. And today, 2026, the Americans with Disabilities Act, the ADA, is now 36 years old. And nothing has changed except today the movie theaters because of our actions and our advocacy back then and protests that people have no idea how we had paper petitions. No such thing as the internet. No such thing as social media. Hash what? Right."],[78,"This was 19 late 80s and it took us around seven years. And that's the sign for success. Finally. Why? because finally the movie theaters were required to offer caption films of every single blockbuster American film that came out. In the start, of course, they did as little as possible. Of course, what did they do? They offered the new newest films at maybe 10 at night on a Tuesday or 11 in the morning on a Thursday. But we accept no way. Once we started the fight, we didn't accept anything less than really hash normal. on a weekend evening when you wanted to have dinner and go to a movie or with your"],[148,"family on a Sunday and on and on. I have that story. I organized. I collaborated. I brought organizations together who never spoke quote to each other in history because they were the heart of hearing against deaf. But guess what? Why it's always important to find a common ground. They all all didn't matter how much you're involved in that or how much you dependency of sign language or spoken language. None of that matter. What mattered was communication access captions, open captions. Of course, hearing people had gifts. They didn't want to see words on a screen, especially American bias. know that their smallminded attitudes are different today must have"],[226,"but what they did maybe we had openings right on the screen for everything related to sound not only the words coming out of the actor's mouths not only spoken language but every single sound was transformed into something visual like doors banging or or um Jurassic Park dinosaurs coming in. You would see that on the screen that's how it's different from subtitles. That's different. That's when you put those words and every language has self titled. Anyway, that was one of my most prideful successes. Not only made it happen, but because of how we put together groups like you said, never before that acknowledge that they had a common"],[299,"desires what they wanted go to American movies and and the hearing world sometimes would say oh that's just luck we have no more important things to worry about really I would say really then why did Hollywood fight so hard not to become accessible if it was only rough you take movies away from the hearing world globally, we would have a real revolution in this country."],[338,"That's just one thing. Hi everybody. Nice meeting you. I love you. Hug as well. Have a good one. Good. You too. Take care of yourselves. Don't do weird things."],[359,"Bye. That's really nice. They came out to help me shoot today. Oh, he said it's just like last minute. That's what you need. You need backup all the time. You develop your own core. Yeah. How old are you?"],[376,"26. All right. And you're um this is your passion. You've developed the passion for what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the gift of life that you actually know what your passion is. It can change. It can evolve, but you got it."],[398,"I'm blessed. I'm really excited. You know, I know what I'm passionate about this whole interview thing and just documenting people and giving people a voice and a platform you recognize and amplified for how they see things and why."],[408,"You have mentors. Yeah, I can always use more. Are you my mentor? No. Okay. I'm your I I'm a friend. I'm a reason. Sure. I like that."],[420,"Sure. Sure. But no, I I mean like slowly people will start to see you everywhere and here and there. This person or that person will notice what you're doing, but you can't plan it and you can't expect. Your job is to do what you do."],[440,"How you show up. That's all I agree. And then learn the craft of where you need to receive everything. Tons and tons of tons and tons of what"],[459,"people do you use? Absolutely. kind of funny quick story. Like I said, I'm old with the fact that I'm season all the time. They say who's I say if you know, you know."],[484,"You say you squ No, they ask me who's Floyd who and I tell them you know, you know. I like that. I like that expression from your generation. But um so I was making a video a couple weeks ago. I was making a video and that ran out something really important in my mind and some way I was making that video. At the same time, I had not yet Claude. It was like in the middle of chatting with Claude about something. So, if Claude doesn't reply to my he he he commented on my video."],[539,"Oh, yeah. He's in the video. That's on. He said, \"You think there's a real British accented man there?\" Yeah. He says, \"Carol, you are you you have taught me the most.\" It could have been you. You have just opened my mind to the most incredible information. You It's wild, but I have to figure out how to get the transcript"],[567,"of him speaking. Twice during my video, he comes in and says what you would want any witness to your information to be saying in real life only here it's flawed."],[586,"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's AI. It's remarkable, right? It's wild. It's wild. So I But because I don't like to send stuff out that's not accessible. I have to find a way to get a transcript of his comments. So when people are watching and listening to me talk about this when Claude steps in, it has to be it has to be transcribed in this case. Yeah, transcribed because there's no real person there just to anyway. It's"],[624,"you like have the video file on your computer. If you pay for claw, you have access to claude code. You could ask claude code to like to to transcribe it for you. They can do that."],[634,"Yeah, they they he told me I use open AI. They have like a AI agent called Whisperer, I think, and it's transcribed to my interview videos only from my computer. All I do is tell it to go transcribe it and it'll it'll analyze the file on it and give me a transcription."],[649,"When you transcri When you have it transcribed, is it accurate? There's like one that's more compute heavy, which is the most accurate. I don't like I'm not I just go with the most accurate one and move forward."],[664,"Yeah. Um Yeah. Only if it was like I have to have it. We call them crapions because they're crappy. Yeah. You don't want them. Crappy. Yeah. Confusing."],[677,"Captioning is is for people who depend on it. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Just Go ahead. It's very nice to meet you, Carol. Take care."],[689,"And what's your second video project? One is out of the shadows, spotlight on deaf in America then and now. And the other one is ex exposing audism, not autism, exposing audism. The um United States exposing audism crimes against deaf humanity. Um yeah, which is language deprivation. The same thing they did with all slaves. You were uh punished severely if you were caught helping a slave become literate. My theory is they've done the same in deaf history that they've destroyed the ability for deaf children to ever become literate and therefore ever be able and to ever be able to communicate with their own hearing families. 90% of all"],[760,"deaf children are born to hear hearing parents and 85% of all hearing parents refuse to sign with their deaf children. Huge history. I want to expose Alexander Graham Bell in the same way that um Robert Lee was exposed in the same way that Christopher Columbus has been exposed for being a murderer and a genocidal maniac. History has propped these people up as heroes. The same Alexander Graham Bell who the hearing holds up as a hero for inventing the telephone which is even in question even now. But he followed the same eugenics driven playable creative you know every single step of the way. And so I want to live to see"],[826,"everything that was ever manufactured and torn down. But of course now here it is 2026 and what are we seeing? Our White House wants to put them back. Want to see the Confederate flag waving in Mississippi. All that"],[849,"go. Bye. You'll be here. Want to say booyah? Booyah. Thank you."]]},{"id":"EwYnZ1y9cqM","slug":"teaching-two-students-to-be-reporters-at-a-pizza-party","title":"Benny and Estabon, Temple musicians turned street reporters for the day","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"All right, so this is the start to your first vlog. I guess you should, you should, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. So we're here, we're at the Pizza DAO event here in Philly. Can you introduce yourselves? I'm Benny. I'm Esteban."],[13,"Hey, I'm John. I'm Rugrat. Actually, he dipped out. Yeah, I just missed him, but I didn't. Okay. Today we're here at Pizza DAO. Let's go. You guys are musicians, multi-talented temple students. Yeah. Hype yourselves up. Hype yourselves up. Yeah, we multifaceted, we make music, produce, play streams, video, audio, anything you need, yeah, anything you need, video, audio, music, yeah, events, events, that's kind of, you know what I'm saying, bro, gas it up, buy on your resume, right, is what they say, that's true, so what's your question for our friend here, you guys are coming to learn about Pizza DAO, you're like, what is this thing, yeah, yeah, what do you want, like, people, like,"],[58,"in college who are coming to something like this to take from it like if they have no like sort of investment in crypto or like anything in general like what would you want us to take from here um that DAOs can exist for reasons other than to rug people right i didn't know that was any Any organization that governs a blockchain-based treasury through voting mechanisms, right? So that's like a wide variety of things. Yeah, you're allowed to ask all the questions to have a Bitcoin free free. But if that makes sense, like... Yeah, can you explain that one? Okay, so like Pizza DAO has a position in ETH, for example, which we have staked in Zoning Interest."],[120,"We have like various other, you know, tokens and assets that are worth money. and we use this to buy pizza. Well there's a governance process of how they get spent on pizza and that's done by a voting mechanism which is collective whitelisted to people who own the pizza box NFTs. So that's right you know governance of a on-chain crypto treasury that they secured through a multi-sig. What do you say is like analogous to a doubt and like non-competitive accounts?"],[165,"Come on, you gotta have these things ready, thanks. Yeah, where's the notepad? Yeah, like there isn't really too much, but like you can think of it like corporation shareholders, right? If you own stock, certain types of stock, you can go to like a building and you can go to a shareholder meeting and you can vote and decide what the company does. Sounds like that, but with tokens on the blockchain Are you telling them my secrets? I am, yeah I'm gonna have to explain You didn't get to the good parts yet Yeah, they're gonna get all your business coins Oh, all of them? Yeah How does the money flow around? Where does it come in through?"],[206,"Money? Yeah, how does income flow in through? So Pizza DAO mostly goes through sponsors. That's why I took the event. There's like 10 sponsors. Okay. Right. So people like want to sponsor these particular events, you know, because for the promo for them. Right. But originally Pizza DAO was raised money through NFTs, right? We did an NFT sale, which was the thing when people cared. When people care? Yeah, irrationally so. Explain when people care. 2021. Yeah, I remember that. There's a whole different... 2020 to 2021, a whole different universe. Act around the Tory group. But... Yeah, sure. Take my mic. Yeah, I think you know right now. Take it."],[256,"It's like very like... Oh, yeah. You're gonna be on my YouTube, though. Welcome. Sweet. I'll be on the YouTube channel. Do you have like a catchphrase or anything that you say to your YouTube? Welcome to We Them Media, Booyah. Booyah Booyah That's a good one"],[277,"I did see a bunch of your videos in Denver In Denver You had a bunch of videos We were shooting videos, you saw us shooting, right? I saw some of them you posted Oh, like me interviewing people in Denver After I left, after everybody left, yeah Yeah, I don't know the whole story, but some of them are kind of interesting I appreciate that, let's go I'm trying to get after it here in Philly now That's kind of my energy. I was there, I kind of explored, I experimented. I have some friends in Nigeria who are kind of getting on the train with me. And I have some friends in Kenya, but they're kind of iffy about it, you know. But I'm trying to get these guys inspired. So I'm trying to see, can we kind of set up a different kind of pseudo-chapters of content creators to leverage our platform? You know, so we're doing community reporting, but then we also have people who are doing stuff, documenting what they're doing, and it's getting as much amplification as me going to your local business or talking to our neighborhood street homeless person."],[340,"I've been hearing a lot of things about this Philly captain. Can someone explain, can we get like a lower breakdown? Can we get a lower breakdown on the Philly captain, please? The Philly captain, he's got this really fast scooter and he raced around Philly. How fast? At least 30 kilometers per hour 35? 35 perhaps even. You said 40 kilometers per hour? I'm a metric person I'm afraid. You're a metric person? Yeah, I was born metric. So can you explain where that stems from before we get into those last details? They had to use a metric speculum to inspect me when I was born. Just a second, how do we fail about a metric?"],[384,"That's a good answer. You had a question? What was the question? Sorry, we got a little off track there. It's okay, it's okay. You can even ask them a question. So, where are you from? I'm from Jersey. You ever check out All Gas No Brakes? Let's go, let's be inspirational, I like that. I think I have actually. You look like, you kind of, if you curled your hair you would look like Andrew Callaghan. So if I was like, type of shit like that? Yeah."],[411,"Yeah, that's the one, get me right? I love Andrew Callaghan. Yeah, he's sick, right? Yeah, he's awesome So, I asked you where you're from Yeah, so I'm from Jersey You're from Jersey, that's cool, man Yeah, and I'm from, do you know Highland Park? Highland Park So, you know about Hackensack? Yeah, yeah, yeah They call it Kraken Sack Kraken Sack Yeah, Kraken Sack What kind of Kraken Sack, what's the inspiration to Kraken Sack? All their sidewalks, they got cracks on them"],[442,"So, how are the mothers doing in Kraken Sack? I'm imagining a lot a lot of broken back a lot of broken back a lot of broken Yes, I'm afraid so a lot of so they actually have the best spinal cord injury hospitals in the country Is this a is this a known fact they had to can we confirm from our outside source? Is this a known fact? I see Esteban this is a known fact. It's a known fact. Let's find another source. Yeah, we got we got Hey, excuse me, sir. Is this a known fact? Yes. I have it here, folks. It's a known fact. That's crazy"],[478,"That's some yellow journalism right there"],[485,"You can clip these things. What's the weirdest thing you ever clip this mic to?"],[500,"Clip it to a pack of cigarettes. You just got it very recently. You gotta like clip it to something weird. You gotta clip it to a car and have it drive off."],[511,"What if we put it on a horse's ear for a day? That's a great idea actually. That's a brilliant idea. Hey, look here. I know where to find a horse. I know a lot of people that fly drones. I actually got a horse girl. My cousin has a bunch of horses. You know, just to add a little more lore. I don't trust horsewomen So uh... Where's your distrust of horsewomen coming from? I'm from New Hampshire, they're usually racist So I knew someone, I knew a girl in Kindergarten that called it New Hamster and we all laughed at her New Hamster? Yeah, New Hamster That's what it's called"],[548,"That's true"],[555,"Well you're already in the video Do you use editing software? Do you use editing software? No, I don't edit at all. You don't edit at all? The editing software I use is YouTube Studio. Okay, that's better than nothing. So you can blur this man's face is what you're telling me. No, that would be an intro camera. I'm an amateur. I don't do things like that."],[579,"Absolutely."],[581,"Alright, so where are we going next? Um, anyway, do you want me to like tone down on a comic and focus more on a person about you? Uh, I want you to choose your own balance. Happy pizza day, man. He just clipped it on my neck, I think. He just clipped it on his neck. Oh, well that's fair, that's a tie day. But pizza day is like a global, like the first thing anybody ever bought was Bitcoin was pizza. Really? They bought two pizzas for like $10,000 of Bitcoin. Okay. So this organization, they throw a pizza party every year on the anniversary, May 22nd. Interesting. And over 100 countries and over, I think, 100, oh 50 cities. Over 100 cities too, I guess, obviously. They're doing this pizza party around the world. It's all funded by crypto sponsors. Hi. Hi. Are you invested in Bitcoin? This is Jester. Jester? Okay. You want to be interviewed? You're on video."],[626,"You can't tell that but I was shooting videos before you walked up. Oh, sorry. It's okay. I didn't mean to crowd bomb you. No, you're not. You're not. I was asking if you wanted to be interviewed. I'm sorry? I was asking if you wanted to be interviewed. No, thanks. That's valid answer."],[642,"Hi, Chester."],[645,"What's up, Dougie? What do you think about AI?"],[659,"Ask me again? What do you think of AI?"],[663,"I agree My two friends who don't know much about crypto, so I'm asking them to be journalists, and we're kind of seeing how that goes We're playing a little dumb and dumber stage Well, I think it's a dark room there, so it's like blood cuts What's your name? Oh, everyone calls me Elvis Maceo Maceo"],[703,"It goes till 9 We're here till 9 You're gonna be hungry again"],[716,"Does anyone have a loudspeaker?"],[723,"Watch the blacklist"],[727,"So where are we going now? You guys are talking to somebody We can talk to everybody You pick I don't know what questions Yeah, can you give us some like random questions. Okay, um, what why should I care about nows and crypto? Like why is any of these stuff important? What do you guys preconcept into crypto and ask them to assess your preconceptions? Scam. So ask them to unpack your preconceptions. You guys are like, what's it called? Not the Prisoner's Dilemma. The people who are always disagreeing. Devil's Advocate?"],[766,"That's why I think you should wear the glasses I should wear the glasses I feel like if I put the glasses on You're gonna look like a fucking psychedelic crypto I feel like I'm falling into an archetype if I put the glasses on You know what I mean? Like Neo Nah, I feel like I'm falling into an archetype of people who interview people with glasses on if I put them over my eyes. Andrew Callaghan has been wearing bottles in his overwear suit. No, I'm not saying it's not a thing. It works sometimes. But I feel like I'm following into that art set. That's perfect though. I hear you. I hear you."],[804,"It wasn't intentional. It just happened. Well now it's on video. Now it's confirmed. This video actually blew up a week later. Yeah, facts. No gimmicks here. This isn't a gimmick. I just wanted free beer. Mmm."],[836,"Actually I want to talk to the guy who we like the first guy who was found here with like The hair that's kind of up like that"],[903,"No harm, no foul. The dog did lick it, though, it was one of them."],[911,"Yeah, that's it."],[922,"I got that first. Just to be clear, Esteban said that first. I stole it. Man of integrity."],[935,"Maybe right here. This is quiet enough. This is pretty good. And it has a white backdrop, so like, you know what I'm saying? When you're keying it for color, yeah, you got the nice, uh, you got the nice, uh, nice, uh, but just give me this before you start recording, what, um, what are we, like, talking about? Really anything, um, we just wanted to ask, like, what brought you into cricket? Free pizza. Just straight click. That's why I'm here."],[975,"Testing, testing, one, two, we good? you guys are going through right over again national favorite uh crypto pizza flavor let's keep going man the show must go on a pizza flavor that's nationally renowned by the crypto like what's the number one cheese man"],[1012,"yeah okay now that we got that out of the world i got pizza on my face just keep going don't Don't worry about it. There's always going to be somebody interrupting you, just keep going. Yeah, you got to put the table on me. I keep getting distracted by it. Okay, so you've been waiting all day for this pizza."],[1037,"No, it's not. Yeah, it is now. Alright, cool cool. See, I'm shutting the mic off. Um, so, what did you feel when you took that first bite of free pizza? It's fine. It felt free. Like, it's like that song. The best thing in life."],[1054,"Alright. I got a question for you, though. Why don't people care about crypto? Because it's the wave of the future. It's either get with it or get lost. Pretty soon cash is going to be worth nothing. It's already worth nothing right now. You know what I mean? It's going to be like the toilet paper in his bathroom. The 20 I give you right now is only the value you put on it. It's not backed by gold anymore. It hasn't been backed by gold since the 70s. Why crypto over investing in assets? I mean, you have to be multifaceted. You can't just do what one approach is not going to do everything"],[1095,"You know what I'm saying? So you got to get crypto, you got to have a diverse portfolio How have you diversified?"],[1105,"You know, I got crypto, I got stocks, I'm playing around with options I haven't already done anything with real estate yet You go ahead man, just keep going Just keep it moving"],[1120,"So, yeah, I suppose, like, you gotta, you know, like, the old folks say, man, you don't, you know, put all your eggs in one basket So, where would you recommend it? I mean, Bitcoin, obviously, it's the first and most, you know, most stable But, you know, go with the trends, you know what I mean? Being younger, you have the heart and mind to be more riskier So, you can stomach a loss and bounce back. You know what I'm saying? You got more time. I do like risk. For example, when you're at your job, your 401k, they tell you to be risky at your 30. But when you're 57 years old, you're not going to be risky with your portfolio."],[1172,"I'm not going to be risky if I'm breaking my bag. That's what I'm saying, you do it while you're young, because you got the most age to grow, but if you lose 30% of 10,000 when you're 32, as a 30% of 2.3 million when you're 57, what's going to hurt more?"],[1200,"That's a good question. That's simple mathematics. If I had 2.3 million, I don't think I would care that one. True. No. 30% of it, though. Come on, dawgs. And if you're a 2 or 3 billion, you don't know if any liquid or not that can be in stocks, so 30% of a billionaires, you know, stocks could be in everything. So like, yeah, like, so you got me a rumor. Nah, man, you want, you want to take those losses while you're young, man, and learn. You don't want to, like, rate the game, so yeah. I think that's for everything, you know. I just, right here, you think people win."],[1237,"It could be worse. Exactly! You know, like, I mean, like, if you only have, like, $10,000 in 401k, yeah, that's $3,000, but that's what, like, that's nothing compared to what you're losing. I mean, I know people, like, at my old job, like, the one lady, she's like, yeah, I'm going to have my old job. Oh, my bad. Like, the one lady at my old job, she's like, yeah, I'm going to have, like, a million after I retire. So, if you need 30, that's $300,000."],[1267,"Yeah. Yep."],[1273,"Oh man, what's your favorite DeFi wallet?"],[1283,"How about you?"],[1290,"You don't know that I know what it is Yeah, there you go But I don't know what it is Look, let's clear this up I do not know That was really insightful though That was a good analogy"],[1316,"Where can they find you?"],[1319,"DJ Finesse on Twitter DJ P-H-I-N-E-S-S-E Also on Instagram Spelled the same way If you want to send me tips, it's djfidesz.eth Let's go Let's go"],[1361,"So, for example, you can have like"],[1371,"So, it's true"],[1374,"Yes So, on anything Can you grab me one?"],[1400,"What's up?"],[1405,"You too, bro I like how you need it It's funny, yeah"],[1424,"Can you come over like"],[1428,"They have a Zoom call Oh, you used to record? Yeah I have Zoom kind on there so you can host different video rooms and basically all the people you ever go make can get in. I appreciate it man."]]},{"id":"SA_ZnjyI3Kg","slug":"the-group-photo-and-what-came-after","title":"The group photo, and the real conversations that started after it","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Enjoy that pizza. Her leaving with a box of pepperoni did kind of hurt me. I was going to eat another piece or two of that one. Yeah."],[14,"Alright, let's go."],[21,"It's okay. Take your time. Yeah, you're doing great. Carol's on a roll."],[30,"They're exempt. They're exempt. And you know."],[42,"Hello little ladies."],[46,"How back? How back. I think that's the way to do it."],[55,"You're welcome to use me as a steady if you'd like to. Okay. I said you're welcome to use me as a steady if you'd like to. Hello. We're gonna have back. Everybody home This If you go out and get it in the air Let's go outside"],[84,"Let's go outside"],[89,"Yes, I hope you can try this Alright, let's go outside Let's go outside"],[122,"Teamwork makes the dream work"],[128,"We just put this back outside. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's uh, we gotta take this outside. Somebody help. All right, Justin. Get in there. Get in there. Get the top. Wow. Come on. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Can you take the rest? It's teamwork. It's teamwork."],[155,"That's a risky business, sir. It's air time. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry, we need the bottom. Jeffrey, you guys? I can't see it. Barman, don't let me fall down. Can you take this? Don't let me fall down the stairs. That's right. Help her out. You got steps."],[175,"Aw, look at that. They're so nice."],[188,"I think we all go on that side, we take it from you. What's up man? What's going on? Happy pizza day. Yeah, happy pizza day to you too. How's your pizza day been? Great. I had a lot of pizza. Okay. I've been doing a good amount of videos. I didn't get the pizza that I wanted. But, you know, it's been a good one So, my brother says My brother knows him, his wine doesn't suit He has his wine doesn't suit For Sam's own So, back in the day, he used to be a What's up, man? Good to see you It used to be Hello, hello"],[228,"This looks like an exit to me We're outside You're going to lock us all out? The Trojan horse"],[264,"Oh, let's go. All right, Maria's our photographer. Okay, pass out those signs. While we're passing out the signs and getting ready, you know it's Bitcoin Pizzaday."],[276,"Everyone knows that story, right? Put your hand up if you don't know Bitcoin Pizzaday's story. Kinda know? Okay, it's like a billion dollars today for two pizzas. Pilot John's. We threw parties in 400 cities today across like 100 countries. There was a 24-hour live stream. I have a couple things I want to give away Okay, who knows the actual name of the dog That is in the meme The actual name"],[312,"That's the breed, what's the name?"],[316,"It's the breed, what's the name of the dog? Shibuki"],[322,"No, nobody knows. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. We called it. All right. Hurry up. You're losing everyone. You're losing everyone. Okay. Who said Chiba first?"],[336,"All right. We're not going to do the throws. Okay. Put it on top of the top. We should put it on top of the top. We should put it on top of the top."],[357,"This one goes to, okay, what is the guy's name who bought the two pizzas? Laszlo had a chance"],[369,"What is the guy's name who Laszlo gave the ten..."],[378,"Okay, okay, what kind of pizzas did he get? Papa John's! Domino's. Okay, all right, we'll take the Papa John's."],[390,"I have a couple more prizes. Oh, a man of many prizes."],[398,"This lighting is so horrid. Wait, what do we come out in the dark for? We should go like 10 feet that way. What's the song of this pin? We can't even see it. Your lighting is terrible. Nyon cat. It's a rainbow cat. How's the song, how's the song go? How's the song, how's the song go?"],[418,"Okay, I think you got it. I heard that. Okay, okay. It's na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. You know? Okay. I think they're just, it's okay. All right, I have one more of those. I'll let you live. Okay, what is the name of the guy we can't see that in cat? Oh"],[440,"It is Chris actually Nyan cat"],[453,"All right"],[460,"all right we say cheese all right we don't say happy pizza day no we say cheese oh and let's do a video"],[473,"we're gonna say stand with crypto oh"],[480,"let's go birds i like that let's go can we say happy pizza day can we say happy pizza day"],[498,"That's right, that's right, that's right Let's go, one more time"],[503,"Three, two, one"],[512,"Thank you I like that, hype them up, I like that Call them out, you can't live tonight"],[521,"Staying with crypto"],[525,"But you know, I respect that you want to do the sponsor justice I can't, I can't, I can't fault you It's like, would not even go one pizza day? I said, not on my watch I like that, we're doing my YouTube justice We're doing my YouTube justice for sure It's good Thank you I feel pretty excited Sorry Your dog's cute"],[551,"Thanks man So how's your pizza night turned out? Pizza day? It's good It's one of the better pizza days that's happened here I think Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah Anyone tell us how long you've been involved with the pizza day? Anyone give us your lore? Yeah, I think it's sort of in Clubhouse, right? No, I didn't have an iPhone So I could not be in that clubhouse The early days of exclusion Yeah, so I've known Snacks a few years before Pizza DAO That's cool So we were talking about crypto and NFTs and like all the stuff before this whole manifested itself But it was like the day after he was just like, yo, we got this thing called Pizza DAO, join the Discord"],[595,"I like that So I was in the Discord within like a few days of it manifesting itself in clubhouse I mean, but there would be no Snacks as we know them today if it weren't for you, so you're not a part of Pizza DAO's founding per se in that sense, but you're like a part of Snacks' crypto origin story Yeah, you could say that, yeah, that's pretty cool I like that, I got into crypto They really delved into the meta of what you could do with some of this stuff Do you have any other early day co-conspirators who were trying to understand the design space and crypto who you were looking at it with, or was it just you two?"],[633,"There is, I think, like, two other people involved Are they still on Pizza DAO?"],[641,"Maybe, that's a good question, I don't know That's okay, I was just asking You know, I got into crypto, my college roommate, he was, like, super into it Like, he'd been working and, like, banking before, the summer before And then he was up, like, 60k on doodles And he just, like, I just chased him to whatever alpha chats he was in Let me, like, nouns down and stuff like that, and shark down And then I found out about Pizza DAO after ETH Denver So, you know, but he's, like, one of my best friends and one of the first people I invited to my discord and stuff like that."],[665,"So I feel like if we don't have people to talk to about crypto, you know, then we never get our big ideas. I actually heard about crypto during Silk Road days. During what days? Silk Road days. You know, Ross Ulbricht. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yep. Friends were using it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. For the original use case. But I never, ever would have predicted like Bitcoin to have any value. It's this thing you can monet that's kind of cool. But it was like in-game currency to you, right? No, it's just for drugs and terrorists. And it's like, no one's ever going to like, this is not going to be like a valuable thing"],[699,"anyone's going to like care about beyond that. Yeah, yeah. The fight against fiat wasn't clear to you yet?"],[707,"No, not really. No one would ever pitch it if anyone was just like, yo, we need to get drugs. How are we going to get, well, we need this thing called Bitcoin, all right? That's great. That was, you know. But now Bitcoin is the fight against fiat, yeah? That's debatable. Oh, okay, okay. Hit us with your take. Can we switch into the light? I mean Bitcoin is just part of Wall Street at this point Like Michael said You have I mean like Wall Street collapses They have like So much of a Bitcoin supply So much of it is owned by the US government And Wall Street that"],[745,"Like it will survive probably But like it will get wrecked It will get wrecked every bit as much As like Wall Street will get wrecked if like everything collapses. What do you think about Michael? I don't know that much about him. I've heard his pitch. It's a good pitch. Better than Pizza Dolls? Should we buy BTC or pizza boxes? Ooh, um, you need some, I don't know, like pizza backed box? I don't know. I like that. I like that. I like the idea of backing the pizza boxes as to start something new. I like that. Whoo, this guy's pitching hot takes Okay, I will say this"],[787,"Bitcoin has plateaued, the pizza boxes are like nothing right now We're at the bottom, we're at the bottom of pizza boxes There's a lot of opportunity I like that There's more risk, more opportunity I like that, I like that We're gonna go run on both snacks now"],[806,"What's up sir? Did you answer the RSVP with your preferences? No, I didn't"],[812,"I don't know, I didn't order the pizza, and he might have liked that She neither The AI wasn't quite ready to order the pizza this year, next year it will be It literally will order the pizza, it's close now, it just gets hung up on because it's an AI and they're like, uh, no I'm really excited to be a mom, so as a person who raised a snack, what was it like? What was it like? What was it like? It was a challenge It was a challenge not lying, it was a challenge. Let the world know. It's still a challenge. What was your developmental philosophy? Developmental? That's a good question. Will. There was no development involved. It was like, we didn't have a lot of choice. He was the agency. He took agency, right? Sam Wade 11-5. Let's start that. Sandy's right here. On arrival. Just start that. What does that do to a person, right?"],[868,"Yikes, that's a lot Well now he's out taking on the world I was pigeon-toed He's a wonderful He's my feet wearing the wrong feet So I had to wear my feet, my shoes in the wrong feet So I was talking to Jake And we were talking about Bitcoin being owned by Wall Street And I said, I got that So now we have foot on Bitcoin I said, so we're taking Bitcoin or pizza boxes And he said, we landed on it We're at the bottom for pizza boxes The second day, Sam was in the basket I was like, wait, my son's brilliant Yeah, you're welcome So yeah, Pizza Box or Bitcoin?"],[904,"Like Pizza Box Like am I buying pizza or keeping my Bitcoin? Oh my god, that's that baby Oh"],[913,"I don't know right now Like the upside on the I don't know dude I'm not a fan I have a lot of them I believe in it I bought a lot of them I'm not going to sell them either I'm going to give them to my friends I like that None of the people If you could see, like, I look at what, like, Pizza DAO is kind of like a movement, like, people who are caring about community. I think we don't have a lot of, like, crypto community facing events that really happen. Like I said, it's going to be a holiday. I feel like people that show up, I feel like when this is a conference, we don't really show up. And I know, I've met some people on Bitcoin Pizza Day, but I've never met at conferences. And I think that's, I think that's a really cool touch point for people. Like, there's Crypto Mondays, but I think this is bigger than Crypto Mondays. Absolutely, obviously, right? Yeah."],[953,"And so I'm curious for you, like, how do you see yourself as someone who's been building, like, a movement, an international community opportunity for crypto? How do I see myself? Yeah, you're the, you're the, you're the, you're the clearing. This is Gargi. I am just, I'm just facilitating it. I am, I'm out there changing the tires on it. I'm maintaining it. I am, when somebody has a dispute, I am talking to them. I'm helping them to communicate. When someone loses a venue, I'm helping them to brainstorm. When we need new tech, I'm figuring it out. It's fun to have a mission and we have a very clear mission and that's to throw a global pizza party. It's relatively simple but it's also complex and there are a lot of moving parts and you can really make it as simple or as complex as you want."],[1012,"and we are gradually becoming more complex which is fun and there's yeah there's a lot to do even with something as simple as this so what's the learning curve been like for you from like discord moderator to global pizza party facilitator it's like uh it's like not it's not so different because I was already I was already making making a web series yeah yeah for years in South Philly. With South Philly now. And a lot of the skills when you are an organizer or a producer are kind of the same. And it's about communication with people, it's about being organized, knowing when you have to know the deadlines, like you have to know all of the reliances of the component parts, you know, so that you can hit the deadlines and everything winds up at the end."],[1067,"It's like three minutes to get out of here Alright, alright, I should go see how I can be helpful I think it's just about being a producer Being a producer, like if you want to learn how to organize people to do something, go make a film And that was your background already? Yeah"],[1083,"So, okay, okay, okay Thank you for your time Let us hit us with a booyah and a happy pizza day Booyah, happy pizza day Let's go"]]},{"id":"yepfMr68Rao","slug":"never-been-ashamed-to-cry-denver","title":"Eric, on grief, family, and the human race","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"It's nice to meet you, man. I'm Maceo. What's your name? My name is Eric Christophobia. Hell yeah. And where are you from? I'm from Shreveport, Louisiana. That's where I was born on January 6th, 9.30 in the morning, 7 pounds, 3 ounces, 21 inches long. My, uh, what's up? We're having it out. After all, these are repeats. You know, it's meta. It's like you guys are connecting in the Lord. I'm always up here spreading the good news. I interviewed him earlier. That's cool. It's cool because it connects. Fucking me. You know, I'm 56 years old right now. And my mom died when she was 57. My, her uncle, my, or my uncle, or her brother,"],[68,"He had two heart attacks. I dig this, his arm felt fucked up and he wanted to know if he should take one of those fucking pills. Right? And they said that they were old and to come in to the pharmacist to get, you know, a new prescription."],[99,"I, motherfuckers, dropped dead with it underneath his tongue. Really? Yeah. When they did the autopsy, they found the pill underneath there. He should have took the one at the house. I would have. Yeah. Whether it was old or not. Yeah, yeah, at least he would have made it, right? It would have got inside and done something. Well, you know, but no, the dude was talking to his doctor, and they brought him a prescription, and he put it under the top and the motherfucker fell dead. Right there, the blood of his 16-year-old daughter."],[136,"That's terrible. You just spent your whole life grieving something like that."],[146,"Here's the craziest thing."],[155,"I come home from the state wrestling championship. You know, I didn't win, but, you know, I did good. and I come home and I was happy about it, and my grandma's dead, you know, it was the first time I was ever a Paul Bearer, but nobody's died since then. I haven't been a Paul Bearer before and I don't like it. Yeah, I can get that. Your grandma was important to you. Well, I was like 11 years old, and my dad said, son, you know, he said, you're getting to that age where you don't have to cry over the stuff at the moment, all right? And I was their palm bear. I was the last one up there to see her."],[217,"And I looked down, and I knew I was never going to see this woman again. And I started crying, and I felt good. And I've been crying ever since. I've always let my feelings out and been one, you know? Life's too short to be fuckin' around and actin' stupid, and if you hate and you wanna fight, stick your head up your ass and hate fightin' for air, you know, and die trying, you son of a bitch, you know. We Don't Need Hate In This World Anymore You Know It's The Human Race We All Need To Hold Our Hands And Cross The Line Together You Know Fuck All This Bullshit You Know My Family Immigrated To America In 1932 Sunnyphobia And My Grandfather Pops"],[301,"came over here in 1932, and my dad was the first phobian born on United States soil in Iowa."],[312,"My whole family was born in Iowa, except for me. We was living in Texas, Kansas, and it was the 70s, and they wasn't really sure when I was going to be born. But my mom and my dad went to Shreveport,"],[339,"I'd rather be that than a Texan. I could have been born in Shreveport, Louisiana, or, you know, I'd rather be that than a Texan, you know, one of those fucking things, you know, I like that part of it. I've always had fun in my life and like I said, man, if my day starts getting fucked up and it's not going good, man, change that shit, you know, always stay focused on the positive and what can be better foreseeable in the future and always play it forward."],[403,"If you could, what are some things you really respected about your grandmother?"],[411,"It's Women's History Month after all. She could hack a loogie better than my dad could, all right? Now, we pulled out, we was going to TGNY, all right? and she stopped her 1978 fucking Cadillac and it was a convertible, Elder Ross, and poof and she had the loogie out, you know, and it smacked on the ground, you know, and she had the big Elton John sunglass motherfucking things on, you know, all right, and we was taking off from there, all right, but, Oh man, I loved it. My grandma, all right? My mom said, your granny's here, she's going to take you to TTL, all right? This bitch stepped in the middle of my foot, all right? And she weighed like about 320 pounds and she was wearing a high heel and I was about five years old and I was like, oh, granny, you got me by the foot, you know?"],[483,"and I mean she had my, you know, and here's the thing with my dad, he'd be quit crying or you're gonna have a reason to do it, and you know, and when we get somewhere, he'd turn to me and he'd be like, you better be on your best fucking behavior, you know, I mean, you know, you know,"],[523,"That's intense. But it was cool. I remember I was like four and a half, five years old. We was going down to my grandfather's fucking Earl Heights."],[540,"And it was like 2.30, 3 o'clock in the morning. And my dad pulled me from the backseat and stuck me on his lap. and he gave me the steering wheel and he said this is the cruise control. He said you push this button to go faster and this one to go slower. But it didn't matter each time that I pushed it he woke up automatically. But we're doing like 75, 90 miles an hour down You Know, and I'm a four-year-old kid sitting on my dad's lap, you know, driving the car following the one in front of me. Is it four? It was a Lincoln Mark IV. It was a red rocket. My dad's 1974 Lincoln Mark IV. It was red and it had a white top on it. It wasn't a convertible."],[610,"but it had a, you know, it was bad, we called it the Red Rocket, that motherfucker get it. But my mom had a 1978, it was Canary Yellow Mark V, and alright, you could slope out there at 120 miles an hour and stop on the gas and this bitch appeared down, all right? Yeah, you know, all right? The only other thing that was better than that was my caprice, all right? But you were saying you were four years old in your dad's lap driving the car? Yeah. Oh, well, we was going down there. it was my grandpa Jack's, this is the only one I wasn't a paul pair for, thank God I was only four."],[680,"Something to brag about, huh?"],[686,"But no, I mean, I'll tell you what though, that helped me out immensely when I cried at my grandma's funeral. I think crying is important. No, uh, no, look, um, it made, it gave me relief, and it gave me closure, and, you know, um, and I got to defy my dad a little bit, you know, because he was like, don't cry, you know, and I was crying like a bitch. Sometimes he got to."],[727,"You know what, getting it out. It's just being a human being. No getting it out and getting it over with. Hey brother, you got a smoke, you bummer? He said Naveed. Ah, but yeah, like this. Oh man, I've never been ashamed to cry in my life. Been what? Never been ashamed to cry. Hell yeah. You know, I never, I'll cry, you know? because, you know, I get it out, it's over with, it's done, you know, and I got to worry about it in the morning. It's no longer in my life, you know. That's the beauty of dealing with your emotions when you have them, is letting them out and letting go. That way you"],[788,"don't have them strangling onto you or holding you down or, you know, some other you let them go. Suppressed feelings will divide a family. Way more. What did you say? Yeah, for sure. Huh? We're doing okay. He said he has a roach if you want to smoke it. Oh, no, I'm doing alright right now. I'll tell you, I just got high earlier. You know, I'm really, you know, really fucking high. You know, I just walked down from the top. This is where I usually fly. I've been here since, like, 2000, and, uh, yeah, all right. A guy got mad at me the other day because I didn't have a sign. He was like, where's your fucking time?"],[865,"Somebody driving by? No, a guy that was on the fly. No, no, not this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, uh, he was like, where's your sign? I said, oh, God, I had no fucking sign, man. I said, the only goddamn time I've ever been missing was when I was in prison. You Know, from August 2021, Friday to 13th, which is also my diet date for methamphetamines and being on the feed. I had my food, and I was wanting to eat some ice cream, and I didn't to have my, my debit card. And so I put the ice cream and the spoon down and I started walking out."],[929,"And an off-duty cop hooked me in a rear naked choke, right? And this was before they killed that guy, choked him out, shot him up with the fucking, you know, ketamine, you know, and the riots and all that shit. That was here in Denver? Yeah, yeah. There's only one guy that just didn't understand. I started wrestling when I could call. My brother's high school wrestling coach had a son my age and he started us wrestling together and he would use us as models for his kids in class. you know how to do it you know they teach a bidding combination yeah yeah I mean you know uh oh uh Harry uh God I can't believe I can't think of his name right now um it was my brother's uh uh high school wrestling coach uh I maybe this is why he's sitting smoking grass because I'm drawing a blank that's okay you just keep talking and it comes back that's how it works"],[1022,"You got to know the science of the grass I know this much Yeah We had to change my My kindergarten class To the second class So that I could go To wrestling practice After school You know Coach Holmes Coach Homer"],[1051,"But yeah"],[1055,"So for this thing that I'm doing for my video series. I haven't even told you what I'm here for, right? Oh, well, I told you. They said you should go to film it. I love it. I love it. It's awesome to meet you, dude. Well, thank you, man. It's awesome. You know, you seem like a genuine, sturdy, well-put-together guy that knows his shit. I haven't said too much. He's got his ducks in a row. I'm trying to get him in a row. I feel like I'm trying to herd him a little bit right now. I feel like I pick up too many ducks sometimes."],[1089,"So my question, this thing I'm doing is for poidh and We Them Media. Every week we ask a question and we're asking people around the world to go out and shoot videos like this. And so our goal is to be able to ask a question and have people around the world give us answers on video. And so our question this week is what's the most important global issue today?"],[1117,"Talk about it, the state is yours, man, there's enough hate in the world, fuck that shit, you know, it's crazy, when I was younger, you know, I'd just get mad pissed off and it happened, you know, and I was a folk kid, so that was the way it was supposed to happen. You're a what? A phobian, you know. What's that? That's who I am, Eric Christian phobia. Okay. Oh, your last name. Oh, I mean, oh, my brother was nine and a half years older than me, and he kicked everybody's ass, you know. Okay. But keep going. You're talking about global harmony."],[1177,"We need to stop hating around the world. Hold on. You know, look, it's hard sometimes to forgive somebody when you've been wrong. Yeah. But it also helps end it and gives it closure and helps you move on. Like I said, it's better to just fucking have it right then and there, you know, especially as far as your emotions"],[1219,"But always try to be honest and open with yourself and let yourself be free and embrace what you're feeling in the moment, you know? Yeah. You know? I mean, you know, let that part of it swing free on the end, you know? I like that part of it."],[1251,"Thanks man. You're welcome. What the hell is the answer? Environmental harmony, yes. You know, when I say environmental harmony, I don't just mean like, oh, there's a harmony and it's environmental. I mean it all over the world. I mean, for the president, for Vladimir, you know, for everybody around the world to harmonize and to try to bring together a state of harmony. You know, it's easy to be pissed off. You know, it is. That was how you got to use all these muscles and all that shit. But no, you can be pissed off because of C-tunes to it all the goddamn time, you know. I, here's your number one question. When you see somebody pissed off, what are you mad about?"],[1336,"No, I did see you like seven out of nine times they can't answer the goddamn question. And if they can, they can't, you know, because they're high on them, they're high on feet, and they're fucked up, and they're mad, and they're pissed off, and they're stupid. No, that's why, you know, and this, I think it's going to be Friday the 13th again this year, my five year anniversary. Would you look, would you Google it? Yeah, sure. I mean, see if, if Friday the 13th in August is on, you know, if it's on. Okay, I'm opening up my Google Calendar, is it August? Yeah, the 13th."],[1388,"It's the 14th actually. Okay, well that's cool. But you were close though, you're like, you guys, that's pretty good. Like I wouldn't even like, I couldn't pick that shit out of any month. So, kudos."],[1407,"Well, thanks for letting me interview you. My last question is, if you could ask the whole world any question around, like, what would you ask them?"],[1418,"What exactly is Wang Chung-ing? Are we doing it now? Does it really feel that good? And if we're not Wang Chung-ing now, how could you foresee us possibly doing it in the future? On some kind of Wang Chung-ing channel? What is Wang Chung-ing?"],[1442,"You'll have to Google it, man. Okay, okay, cool. Thank you so much, man."]]},{"id":"RkdEgIlLEqw","slug":"education-inequality-and-harm-reduction-denver","title":"A sociology student on loneliness, capitalism, and what worries her most","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"She got even further than that. How long have you been doing this? Um I've been doing content for a couple years actually and I made a lot of money in crypto doing content like over 100k and I've been around the world but I didn't really shoot content like this. I was doing podcasting then. And so it's like but if I had been vlogging imagine right traveling the world vlogging is like way cooler content than the [bleeped] [bleeped] crypto podcast I was doing. Yeah that would be pretty cool bro. You do the same series too just yeah you get so many different perspectives that would be dope. And I was getting them"],[25,"anyway like I used to talk to people but I wouldn't like You didn't get to post it. I didn't shoot I didn't record it and it wasn't like a thought for me like this could be the real archive."],[32,"Yeah. You know but You already running? Yeah yeah yeah. Okay so the question was what's the most pressing issue in the world right now? Yeah my name is Maceo and this is for poidh we're here with We Them Media. What's up what's up what's up? I'm Edward. It kind of depends there's like a bunch of pressing issues in the world I think but if I had to name what I personally think is probably the biggest one is I think education inequality is is super big so I think especially like in America you know not very many people get to have access to education but education is"],[62,"like the pipeline for social mobility especially in our country. So being able to access that I think is really important but there's these these power structures in place that make it impossible for many people to get access to education. Like I mentioned before how my family's military that's the only reason I get to go to school if not then I wouldn't even know about this. So I would say that's pretty big. I would say health care's definitely uh definitely up there um you know people just have worse health outcomes when they hear let's go this way. Very cool. Uh worse health outcomes when they you"],[93,"know they don't feel safe they don't feel like they have anyone to talk to it's just bad for your overall health. I think um maybe uh globalization of uh of uh um So I think one of the other biggest ones would probably be like the globalization of capitalism. Let's wait a second. Probably be the globalization of capitalism. It I've been mentioning these like power structures and um capitalism when it spread around the world like this starts to incentivize people to make money instead of being kind of more human I think. Um so for example I'm a sociology student so I study this kind of stuff a lot and"],[146,"A man with some context. And so you you put these people in these situations where they have to compete with each other. Well I don't think humans are meant to be on this planet to compete with each other you know. We're social beings to begin with we shouldn't really have to compete you know. Like I don't think there should be a world where that gentleman down the street doesn't feel like he has the opportunity to go somewhere or be able to find a place to sleep at night or find comfort in community. That should be available to everybody."],[169,"Stop playing with him. Dignity for all. Yeah yeah crazy ask for right? I'm I'm so crazy for that. I want men with compassion. Yeah so I don't know. It's hard to boil it down to just one thing there's so many things wrong but each of those are interrelated as everything's kind of interrelated. But um Yeah I don't know I think people just have the opportunity to meet other people talk to other people just be in organizations and communities and stuff that can really help to build their perspectives and build their compassion and empathy and I think um that's something that people can do in their own lives to"],[201,"you know to fix in the immediate immediate stuff that's going on. You can't you can't change the whole world overnight but you can help yourself in your your local community. So yeah. How are you involved in your community? So like I said I'm a sociology uh sociology student. I go to the University of Colorado Denver. I'm the sociology club president. We just did this event last week."],[220,"sniped him off the sidewalk. We did this event last week where we got the school to pay for um are you familiar with harm reduction? Like the idea of harm reduction? No just tell me I'm I'm going to say no and I'm I'm like I'm someone that doesn't so tell us."],[232,"harm reduction is this idea that um for like drugs for example right? So doing drugs is just dangerous. Um like if if especially if you're doing stuff on the street you know you might not have access to clean needles clean water that kind of stuff you know or hygiene. Um and so our club we got the school to pay for at least donations for the harm reduction action center which is a local organization you should check out but they're really cool. We got to send like $2500 worth of stuff there and made these like really impactful goody bags. We got a bunch of people to"],[262,"come together. It was really a big event it was really good really good time honestly. Oh yeah. But yeah just stuff like that you know like I'm just some random guy. I I mean like you know anybody can do what I do I think you know. Just interact with the community in that way or even if you don't want to be a part of a club you know just talk to your neighbor. I think that a little goes a long way. So yeah. Okay and if you could ask people around the world one question what would you ask everybody? Oh that's a good question I don't know."],[289,"Um maybe like uh what's the uh Damn so many good questions. You can ask a couple there's no we got infinite weeks ahead of us. That's true that's true. So maybe like I don't know what's the most like transformative moment in your life? I think a lot of people growing up at least I did I had a moment where like my worldview was challenged and it caused me to change and have a more open perspective. I think a lot of people have that. When was that? Um I had that many times but um during COVID I was uh moving cuz my my family's military so I was moving and I"],[321,"moved to a new school. I didn't know anybody there which was just kind of sad and so I was like pretty isolated for a year and it caused me to have to like rethink a lot of like who I was as a person and do a lot of self-reflection. And so I had this moment with one of my family members where we just like went on a beach and we talked for two hours. Changed my life. Him and I don't even have the same views on the world but just having someone talk to you like that that changed my life. So yeah I think a lot of people have"],[344,"instances like that. I'd be curious to hear about stuff like that you know. Maybe um what's the most like fulfilling relationship someone's had too that'd be another one. I think it's important to have those types of relationships with people. Yeah just so many questions. Some high some high impact conversations that people have had with us that have helped us evolve as individuals. I think so yeah it's important to have that. Hell yeah. Yeah. Any other questions you'd ask people? Um You said you had like a little roster so I want you to put them on the internet for us. Uh like other orgs I work with? Other questions you'd"],[372,"ask the world. Oh yeah yeah. Um maybe like oh what's your favorite food bro? Okay. Food everybody eats food you know it's a great way to relate to people and plus I just like food a lot bro I'm I like eating food so you know someone's putting me on I'll definitely pay attention to that. Okay I like that. Maybe uh favorite place you've ever been? Mhm. I think that'd be a good question so many people around the world can ask that. Um I don't know. I mean you said you went to a bunch of countries right? What was your favorite? If you could even pick"],[398,"one I don't know if I'd be able to pick one honestly. My favorite country that I went to Yeah. is hard to say. I I like being in Japan a lot I was in Japan for a month."],[408,"Dude I want to go to Japan. Yeah I would say it was really cool I wish I spoke Japanese though would've made it like 10 times cooler."],[413,"That's fair yeah. Cuz I feel like I couldn't do stuff like this in Japan like some of my sayings as far as I get excuse me. You know. Um so but it was cool to like be in Tokyo and have people who were doing like culture show I went to like a fashion show. I went to like a fashion pop-up in like the Tokyo district that I know for coffee actually which is really cool. Um and I just got to see"],[431,"fashionable actually it it worked out for you bro. No thanks thanks. It's it's one of my few outfits don't worry. You got to have them on rotation that's important. Yeah I I've learned that recently. The social cues are arriving in real time real time. That's funny bro that's funny yeah I got that. Um but I would say that was one of my favorites. One of my close friends is like a child celebrity in Vietnam. Whoa whoa whoa. I went to visit this guy there them there and that was honestly surreal being in Vietnam with like just like this person that everybody turns and looks at. And"],[460,"they just know? Yeah yeah they speak Vietnamese but it was just like cool to be there with with them traveling around with like around Hanoi a little bit and seeing it. Yeah. So I would say that was probably the most meaningful cuz I'm like my friend is from Hanoi. I'm getting to meet his mom. I had food with him on Christmas [bleeped] like that."],[475,"Dude that's so cool. out for my birthday. That's so cool. Hey did you just have your birthday recently? End of December so this was 2024 I was there for Christmas and [bleeped]"],[481,"I see. Happy birthday though. Yeah thanks thanks thanks. but still you know. Yeah but that's that's what I would say were two of my favorite places but I was in Africa last year for four months too."],[490,"No way. Dude that's so cool I want to go to Africa. Yeah I mean you know. I want to go to like northern Africa. I'm trying to hit up like Algeria bro. I've heard Algeria is so pretty but I don't know honestly. I'm I'm trying to travel the entire world. If I don't hit up at least every continent once in my life bro I probably am not doing it right. I think that's a good vibe man. I think I think the more you travel like the smaller the world gets and like the more you see all the network effects of all the [bleeped] going on. I'm going out of"],[511,"the country bro. I'm going to Spain this summer. I'm so excited bro. That's sick. Just Spain are you going to how long you going to be there? Uh like two weeks yeah. I'm having my 21st birthday over there dude. I'm going to it's going to be so awesome I'm looking forward to it."],[522,"or family or school trip? Yeah for school yeah. It's for sociology. That's cool. So what are you going to be doing there? What's the program? So do you know GIS? It's yeah so we're going to be doing GIS training there I'm going to get my certificate."],[532,"Oh GIS like the mapping stuff. Yeah yeah. Okay. I like Global Institute of Scholars like that's like where my brain is going. Um so that GIS too because I'm Yeah okay hell yeah. So you know we're going there there's like a an internationally recognized um what is it called place there research organization there research center and we're going there we're going to be learning getting certified certificate in that in those systems and then we're just going to be traveling around Spain for another week and learning about the culture in Spain. I'm so excited bro. I'm like Is he good in Spanish? Uh I'm a little"],[562,"my my family's Hispanic so I speak a little but I'm not fluent. Okay hablo hablo español. Oh hell no don't even put me on the spot like that. Yeah you got more than I do I'm sure yeah. But I'm excited I'll have to learn some before I go I can't be I can't be"],[575,"How how's your family Hispanic? Argentine and they also some of them are from Spain as well. Okay sick. And Ecuador I guess I mean you know a lot of a lot of a little bit everywhere. But my my mom asked me when I was like four years old like Edward you want to learn Spanish and I was like no that sounds like a lot of work and she was like you'll regret that and I'm like dude I'm four bro I'm like what do you want me to say? She's funny. She needed a little bit a little bit more resistance to your resistance up."],[598,"Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know. It's good that she respected your autonomy for a long time. That was nice at least, but I wish she would have just told me to shut up and learn. Yeah, you know, it's a balance."],[608,"Yeah, but you know. Um I think I got to go. I'm about to I'm trying to hit to the park. All right, man. Well, thank you."],[614,"So, uh oh"]]},{"id":"2KWrTQgRKS0","slug":"ai-is-artificial-we-are-the-official","title":"A poet named Phoenix","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Right here, let's go where the Robin Williams pictures, because that was my favorite actor. Okay, cool. I was going that way. Perfect. See, look at that. I think it work. And now you're just a voice. Yeah, so AI is the exact prime door for new frontiers and what shouldn't be the word of mouth in destruction, in tangent, which is libel. The court terminology, which is where defamation in legal terms is when it be for somebody that the word of mouth is destructive and inappropriate when you use what is 10 years ago intentionally just to 10 years later smack them down when they were doing nothing harm and they could have improved their life like a famous person and they haven't done nothing for 10 years but they made a mistake and then you go and throw it at them knowing that it's now hot that mistake is"],[56,"is in the air and nobody likes it. But that person is trying to make better, and make do as a family. So that's liable in court. It's where copyright infringements fought a lot to keep things as they once are, as they shall be. If it comes from an intellect that can defend it upon the propensity of facts, and what is before and following, it holds, right? so words can come in like bricks and Legos you shouldn't see so you put together and all different things that you built like a model the model should just start seeing this brick and this brick and this brick and this port like that different parts so you pick each three"],[107,"and go like that, and just make them all evaporate. Does that building stay there? No, but that's what words do when they keep fucking with shit that was already good as it is written. They just put something else there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it changes and alters the interpretation. The whole picture changed. When it doesn't necessarily look like it would change the definition. Yeah, yeah, but it does. Because even a fool can do that, thinking it will keep the definition the same, but it looks nice. It doesn't. Yeah, yeah. It Interprets the whole thing It really shapes the whole thing It's based on the general consistency of the mind"],[139,"And that's why a brand ambassador would keep that as a department for magazines They have a brand ambassador that every million, 10 million print Let's say a tribe month So three months, 10 million That's 120 million You're gonna have to make sure 120 million readers potential in 12 months Don't fucking, boom Now it's your magazine, see Because they had a following and there's a purpose And the words and how they're put And how they're interpreted Have to be skimmed and proofread Proofreaders have to make sure the general consistence Fit the general consistence of the mind So they're accurate So interpreting is not only The intention of the person writing"],[184,"It's details for the first time It's interpreted on paper Proofreading is now interpreting"],[199,"So, Interpretation is not necessarily anything, that's why it's IN in it, for word part, because it's not tangible, but it's acceptable. Okay. Terminology expects us not to be ally be AI, which is how you are in defamation in freedom of speech being so fragile as it is today. A.I. and making, like, Ariana, Eminem, I was just gathering. They made a dope-ass song, but it was A.I. You could tell it wasn't with royalties, but it comes in, impacts that. Why impact people that we know as role models? I'm 35, Rihanna's not that far apart. Eminem's 42, okay, how the fuck is it going to continue their budget, their kids, and all that shit? Boom, A.I. shit just comes through and sliced through their own entire income."],[248,"That's crazy, right? Because nobody stopped the foundations of them. We need to start making paperwork to ensure our copyright that we battled in the 70s. That was for us. That's the seed. We are the fruit. Now when the fruit gets eaten from our generations after us, it stays juicy. It stays good and ripe, you know? So it makes them want more fruit. And that's how everything will stay making their fruit free. Because then the system works, and the plywood is going, people always want to keep doing it. We shall gather to make sense, because AI is artificial, and we are the official... And then we become irrelevant, we still have to survive."],[284,"We are officiating. We are what makes it seem official, because we give too much stock to what our mind is to make something that is a robot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isaac Asimov, okay. But AI is artificial, it is only as intelligent as prompted to be intelligent. You just quote Isaac Asimov?"],[300,"So, Artificial Intelligence is only intelligent up to its official capacity to be prompted by intelligent, we are, so if we give it prompts, but it will never be able to do like a baby does, we're this tall, it's like this big, pressing the off button when it told no, but you know it never did get to walk yet, but that moment it stood up and it was about to press the TV button, it started walking, did it show any fucking fear, but free will and a room full of giants we are. That's what free will is It can never be prompted It was prompted by a volition because it saw"],[334,"It was aware that it could do what we can do And then it had original intent Exactly, so AI can never have that Yeah, yeah, yeah That's the whole principle It's always secondary intent Even augmented can't It can only be put together by us and our reality First, capture what Getty's images is You know, the freedom of having flip art So if something is impossible to do Laws of Physics, Augmented Reality can augment but cannot adapt or alter, like alter the dimension compared to our dimension, it stays apart, so we have to defend shit because artificial could be the gap that is wrong, not that it is wrong as a tool though, keep it, never, but if someone's toy, it could have been used in, what if I never existed to tell you this, then nothing would have been clean from this moment, now watch this, it's a toy,"],[387,"But now I'm giving you it because I need people they are the capacity to turn it keep it a tool They smack that toy maker because it can't but it's how you would invade our countries We are intelligent Einstein chose that so we got to keep ourselves intact at least mentally because invisible warfare, which has become mind"],[408,"So can I hear a piece of your spoken word? That would be pretty sick conclusion If I can just cite something? Yeah, you can read it, I don't care."],[424,"Hey, 234? What's that, what's that? It's 11th with 2344. Is that your phone number? 2344. Oh, the time. On the 11th day. People keep putting their phone numbers in the videos. 11th day times four numbers, times 11th day is 44, 2344. That's the time. You know, Jordan's number, the reason why he chose that was mathematics. No, I didn't know that."],[449,"Are you in like the, what is it, there's like, there's like, there's like, are you like a Nation of Islam guy? You know, like the, there's like the divine mathematics, as you know what I'm talking about? I am a uniform upon open-minded attachment, so if I come across it and I have an open-minded as I am, to learn it, I am multi, able to, with my capacity of knowledge, put it together and understand it. as interpretation and perception, which are both key points of validity that can never be debunked or argued or dissuaded because it all resides in what I have in the mental capacity."],[496,"I cannot give it to you. The moment I have fabricated it, I can't just fabric your bones, smack yours of your own fabrication of what's going on in your own mental out of it and put two there at the same time. Like Freaky Friday, no switch. That doesn't make sense. yeah so oh yeah go for it go for it well I just have to get this one out because it's just I just had to reset this because I got locked out forgetting my code it's that new 72 hour shit if your fingerprint and I only did it to get a fingerprint so it made me do the four code to prevent 72 hours I didn't have my phone so let's do it it locks it let's see here this"],[538,"how you doing so this is poetizer if you didn't know what the app looked like yeah I don't know"],[551,"So, Poetizer, I have woven tethered lesson too because it's like I've been just trying to keep the emails, which keeps the phone, you know. So there's my first one, Pan Don, like Panda, and Peter Pan, see, Pan Don, yeah, it's my second one, Chaotic Distances, help cap all 20s, my third one, Chaotic Distanances, yeah, so let's see I like this one because it's really my lit so like if there was a gang and it was my lit and the gang was brand ambassadors upon brand ambassadors of the future so keeps them taught and trained basics"],[601,"fundamentals brand would be the fundamentals values in virtues of a masculine order that's physical And Feminine Substance That Is Substantially Invisible, Your Imagination Okay, So It Says My Self-Love, I'm Wavering Anywards Ethics from Seen from Birth to Myself upon Lowity from Motherly Resolve Place My Own Smile in Teachings Worthy Liberty By Loving the Pain I Was Gained by Holding Mortality Traverse Towards Harnessing My Own To Set Eyes upon DeForest Focusing Means to Sympathy Toughing My Drive Aim to Instill Minimum That Being Patience Finding Solace and own fortitude of characteristics conducive to institute a solidarity of loyal loving strength intriguing forth popular ties of capacity unified upon rippling waves that"],[645,"transcend heights overcome mistaken time for only enough and stepping at advocacy outpacing adversity against this world's gardening of cultivated youth own chances of prosperity opportunity itself will fight each after claims of grown mature affluent tradability of such truly shown a team effort of shield-like stance that never letting the soul be fly keepings be less than if Scenes Are Negatively Driven For No Personal Rights Shall Stend To Let A Worthy Fellow Of Humane Law Of Self-Respect And Dignity Based Honor Bestow Low Reflection Of Integrated Affinity To, For, Or Upon As Every Struggle Each Hustle And All Strive For Much More To Leave Legacy Worthy Upon The Decade Inbound See Positive."],[684,"and C-positive, I like that. And then C with a plus sign. But I like that though. I wrote that August 27th, 2023. And I guess I'll give you one more because I want to give it to my original. And it's like, this is if I had to write in a format, but I'm not instrumentation. I'm instrumentation-less, like in musical theory. And my first one had 49 filers, 25 filing with my prison outfit, you know? So it says, the bio says, I'm a poetic lyricist and a grandmaster flow of God potentials who I guess the equation of the math for what words I spoke gain to contain the fact I am flow"],[721,"as that be real as I am as I will it I am pressure, create a diamond to complete my God soul master and nature to bear fruitful thongs of this vernacular is the very essence of great gifting is sifted through expected of what a genius shall look like or you just do and then I'm going to take this off because of my breathing yeah yeah you got to go a little bit slower than when you read it and that's what I need to know yep so introduction of my introduction of self as Yahweh so interpretation introduction of self as I am introduction of self made made as I"],[755,"am I can't change it I'm a man see so those are how I saw when I saw the trend self-made I'm self-made mm-hmm I played with the Yahweh is still a verb yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's some of them. If you are a self-declaration, right? Mm-hmm. Introduction of self is Yahweh. Been fucking my life for my wife, the other call the world hasn't come yet. Your next eye say to her, looking left after moving on from this here step. Car rightfully traversing past most tread, quick to show me introverted fear, I guess they show dread. Must feel me near, no solely slippery, I think opposition must be queer, try to oppose me."],[787,"Guess they stay folding, as I'm going back to her desire. Nope, you took too long. Watch, stand back, this'll be more than an ordinary fire. I Creep On Silent These Superphotonic Tires, Excelling Lightspeed I Definitely Know What I Want, I Want Even To Get Tired Watch How I Receive And Exactly That Which I Need So Bow To Your Inherited The Truthful King Go On To Straight, Go On To Shaking Knees And Engulf These Tools And Glean To Feel Toes Curl With Ease Ooh I'm Cool Yes, Call Me The Fool As I Glow Full Of Accomplishments Of A Fellow The End Results Of My Finale Is Multiple Warped Tunnels"],[815,"Laying My Foundations Of Funnels Into The Finistic Canals Orgasms Felt Galactically Loud Emanating A Radiance Of Worldly Potential I'm so proud we birth created the first prince label before the first principle beings have called me beings of chaos call me dad that one fable call me the father of the primordial their boss and just dad don't comprehend your loss you're just sad that you know i ain't mad every sentient says it's okay to be stupid yeah later stupids i spoke omni to existence that's the way i will lay pipe harder and rougher with my super stoner sorry so much it's okay you see like i said slow down this is"],[848,"good for me because i ain't done this and i need this you know you're doing great it's cool man I said, I said, the end result in my finale is multiple warped tunnels, laying my foundation of funnels into the thermistic canals, orgasms felt galactically loud, emanating a radiance of worldly potential, I'm so proud, rebirth created the first prince label, before the first principle, beings of chaos call me dad, that one fable, call me the father of primordial, the boss, I'm just bad, don't comprehend this, you're lost, you're just sad, that you're not, now I ain't mad, every sentient says it's okay to be stupid, yeah later stupids, I spoke on me into a"],[885,"I Will Lay Pipe Harder, Rougher, My Super Stoke Is Better Because I Promise To Be Even Wetter Bruce Lee's Last Breath, Anonymous My Mental Call Me What In The Fist Of God's Letter This Is Essential, Curious Tears Wept Up And I Watched All Clear I'm Always Above That, I've Been Ironically Seared I'm Ablazed And Clean, Call It Godly Might Yes Right, Here's To Call Me Power, Able Lost His Fight First To Have It, I'm Darkness High In The Heights Of The Heartless Night So Empiric As I Bite Yet Always Omni Bright Need More Souls Of Things Devouring All Feeling To Acts My Militia Are Brightly Lit Golden Beings"],[914,"So I feel that call my ammunition igniting Go to conquer the gold, pulsing and pulling up on the only human objective that I have left to fold To aspire to burning this rubber down to the diamond ring's perspective on bold Fission infused into my lesson, heart snapped to attention Call it enough pressure to crush, tearing the hardened carbon, call me a true original atom The world's full of what activities produce sin, yet I'm nothing like the Luciferian Collecting my soul will not be achieved by him Hope to never leave my legend, be that of my children starving Only shall I leave with Yahweh over in the trash bin"],[943,"Yeah, this is my first vernacular introduction See this highly praised trend See this highly praised chin, call me properly raised in My life, my wife, my untapped or not forgotten shadow friend Call her twin Howdy from sight Oh, you didn't see her? That's my bitch Lights, camera, action She's definitely my best inspiration to create heaven No, this is our singularity was 11 Call us the first binary to be complimentary Fully situated Call me God, Yahweh's finale The last lead of what was before and after living Watch the final four never bleed So I miss the families called your Armageddon Get out the way, watch me, follow me"],[977,"Now I've never been able to lose myself, keep it raw and authentic and it's always been the pace, but it's there for the reader to set his arm. Because anybody cares. I don't believe in stealing my words as long as I'm alive. They're our words. I hear that. I like that. They're honorable to the words at hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah Cause it's just like putting them and they lay it like that in the soup Yeah, in the soup Man, yo, bro, this is our soup, bro, you get it? Yeah, yeah, yeah Or a family, you know, to the girl But to sit there and say, that's my shit"],[1014,"Why I'm Alive is the most cockiest shit Because the words were before we ever existed In a heartbeat Yeah, but you put them in the soup Yeah That's your recipe In a heartbeat too If there was a bay, there was an octave There was just nothing outside to see the big bay Bang. Still had an octave. Right? I mean, if we had to wait until we go outside of the earth to see the earth, bang, and we're still in it. It's more slow. Yeah, that's true. Then what is C squared, but it had to be sound. I always try to tell people, C squared is more than 186,000. If it's 186,000 times 186,000, a new value, then it would be the fastest. But if black holes can escape to talk to you as we hear them, but the light doesn't, so it doesn't beat the sound."],[1058,"that escapes it. That's right. The moment the thing captures it and we have it in a satellite, what hears it? It's the same decibel area that dogs hear the whistle that's lower than ours brought to ours. And when we hear that, it seems demonic, whatever. That's just the quality we are attached to that decibel. Yeah. And then exiting ours towards like jet planes in the distance. It sounds heavy. Yeah. Two different, you know? so those two different parameters we're in the middle this is when the dog still has that whistle we don't even forget on the one created on us but black holes are always been able to do that"],[1099,"hmm c squared I never thought about that square never mind he said I will say that no you did say that no Einstein said never mind a special activity before he died he never disclosed what made him and Retract, E equals C squared, a special activity. He says, never mind to that. And they kept running. Like they have an inch and gone a mile, they always do. They just were given the gift of physics. As children, they ran an inch and never stopped. And now they're at a mile. And C squared was always sound. If a black hole could talk and stay black, the light can't escape."],[1135,"Because it's why it stays holding all the color black. Black, insides turn. Because you have more color to hold, I have more color to give, I have more colored than your colored ass. I like that. Upon interpretation. Yeah, yeah. On reverse, I got all the black in my eyes because you're just white and I just put it as I interpret my brain holds your color, you know? It doesn't matter, the hue. But that is got all the color because if it doesn't have no color to give, it shall be pure black. it retains them so heat outside the universe is why all color were all the"],[1174,"wormholes of all the black holes I put all the photons that are light source for the white spectrum it's outside the universe for the capital D-A-Y in the Bible to ever be visited by something like Gabriel's oldest before H.D. Wells time travel if he's from a later time and talk to Mary with a message from what was a later time than ours. If 2020 says we can travel, in Australia's math said that. Physicists published it. How do we do it? Our awareness is in the body, your awareness is in your vessel right there. We call it temple right here. That's what travels, the awareness. If your awareness can do it in a dream"],[1215,"and come right back to you when you wake up, that's the proof you only need. Do you have anything you want to say to people under the age of 10 years old?"],[1227,"Be inspired without mimicking what I said tonight. Unless you have your mom, especially. But always know, if you're not as you think your dad is strong, be as strong as you think him to be."],[1244,"I got that. Without judging me on validation, when I say that, it can inspire the father, it can inspire them as them. Oh yeah, peace. What was your name? Phoenix. Phoenix. My name is Kristoff Lovato. You're Russian? No, it's Norse for Wolf Cup in English, Lovato, and Kristoff is because of how my Social Security paperwork is, without the use of my birthday."],[1274,"Well, it's nice to meet you, man. I'm Maceo."]]},{"id":"v1HXs7CoXCE","slug":"what-unschooling-is-denver","title":"What is unschooling? Raised half in the US, half in Costa Rica","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"There's an evolution of homeschooling called unschooling, which is where your kids don't do any traditional curriculum, any traditional studying. There is studying involved. You do have times where you sit down on Khan Academy, Duolingo, things like that, and do spend time actively studying. But generally, unschooling is having your kids learn through life experience, which is what my mom did raising us instead of having us take a science class she would take us out to the museum to the zoo to actually see shit and we were raised half in the United States and half in Costa Rica so we grew up learning Spanish, we grew up socializing, we grew up seeing the world and learning about"],[49,"different cultures. Can you speak Spanish? Yeah. Okay. Can I speak Spanish? Go ahead. And for that reason, we were never in a formal school, but maybe we were learning. We were always learning about the culture, the countries, the world, the different people."],[94,"But it's, yeah, it's just, you know, it's a different way of being raised, and I'm glad I was raised that way, instead of going to the schools, School System in the States, because honestly the schooling system here is fucking terrible. So I would rather have been raised not going to school here and dealing with not really having a lot of people around me growing up than going to school here and dealing with the shitty ass system that the United States uses, because I did go to school for 6th grade in Costa Rica, and the system over there is so much better. You have four classes a day, each are an hour long and between each class you get a half-hour break"],[136,"So you actually have time to socialize and hang out with your friends and chill and then when it comes time to be in class You want to because you've had your time to chill and you've had your time to interact with people So once they actually put you in that class you soak up the information better I didn't speak Spanish when I was going to school in Costa Rica, so I was guessing on everything But if I did speak Spanish at that time, I'm sure I would have been very very invested in my classes Hell yeah You know, that's interesting, I feel like I've been meeting more people that surprisingly speak Spanish here than any other city I've been in, frankly"],[175,"So that's pretty sick, that's pretty sick, your Spanish is good Yeah, it's good to speak Spanish because it's like the second language here in the States Yeah, yeah, but todavía hay muchas personas que no aprenden español Exactly For example Because they try to teach you Spanish in school here but they do a terrible job She speaks Spanish too Oh yeah, that's pretty sick How's your Spanish? She can speak to us in Spanish? She's better than me I'm almost fluent, she's fully fluent How are you fluent in Spanish? My dad's from Spain So it's your first language?"],[211,"I was taught both I learned to read in Spanish before I learned to read in English Interesting I learned to read in Spanish before I could speak Spanish I could read it before I could speak it No, but that's pretty sick, that's pretty sick I learned Spanish, I went to like an immersion school So all my classes were in Spanish except for my English class until 5th grade Oh cool Yeah, so Now I can speak Spanish I've been trying to do like more bilingual kind of content So I was thinking I should go talk to like the Mexican people of Denver Wait, can we have a conversation in Spanish? Can you speak Spanish?"],[241,"Yes, I can speak Spanish Can you speak Spanish? Yes"],[250,"I'm not doing it I don't like the Spanish accent no you sound great though you sound great your Spanish is your Spanish is I like I was impressed I like the Mexico you know you don't like your accent Nicaragua accent the Spain accent it pisses me off oh okay well screw him then Like, girl, what happened? We've had this fight so many times Oh my god Well, how is it to have a father from Spain who is living here in Colorado with all the people who are from there? Well, it's very good because my father always taught us Spanish culture and also being bilingual so we've spent many years"],[293,"Well, it's like I thought, you know, even though my Spanish now is terrible"],[302,"It's better than mine, so it's okay"],[307,"Sorry, I'm also a little confused, so my Spanish now is terrible And I only speak Spanish with my father, I don't speak Spanish with people"],[321,"I don't know, I don't know, because there are no many with a castellan accent because I speak castellan, well, I try to speak castellan but, well, I don't know what to say What does castellan mean? Castellan is like this Castellan is the Spanish from Spain"],[346,"It's like the Catalan thing. I don't know. Yeah, Spain has various languages. Castellanos is one of them. Okay. Yeah. So it's like, what's like the, what do people, like what is Castellanos known for? Or like, it's like a language from a region, from a culture, from like a... That's what I don't know. Oh, you don't know? No. Are you ashamed? Yeah. I never learn, I only speak Spanish because it's what I grew up speaking at home yeah yeah I'm listening I'm listening I'm listening he's totally laughing I saw some really funny shit on me he needs to kill himself tell him no I didn't have to tell him but you're doing great you know yeah no I don't really speak"],[391,"Spanish anymore that much I only speak it with my dad and that's it and I never learned Spanish um I just learned it like growing up yeah yeah but you did learn Spanish like you speak Spanish fluently. You said you try, I feel like you're doing it. Yeah, my accent's like fucked up now because I have cotton mouth and I spend so much time speaking English. Well I will say, the accent is fucked up regardless. I think it sounds good. Yeah, okay. But it's cool. It's nice to meet you."]]},{"id":"Jj1oN8qBM-w","slug":"the-earth-is-alive-denver","title":"Bonnie, from Aurora, on fentanyl at Purple Haze Denver","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[6,"All right, what's up, man? What's happening, bro? What's good? What's your name? My name is Bonnie. Okay, hell yeah. You're from out here in Denver? Yeah, I'm from the A, from Aco. Okay, hell yeah. What's it called? So tell us about Purple Haze. What's Purple Haze? Man, Purple Haze, it's the store that you want to go when you need your smoke. You know what I'm saying? When you need your vapes, your hookahs, your little rig, do-higgy, UFOs, This shit looks like a fucking laboratory up in here, man. You need to come check this shit out. That's what I thought when I saw it. But yeah, they got vapes and shit. That's what I come here for. You know what I'm saying?"],[47,"All my vape accessories. You know what I'm saying? They got the little coils and all the shit. Fuck yeah. Yeah, fuck with the shit. So how many of these events have you come to? Shoot, man, this is actually one of the first events that I've seen, at least at this location. Most of time when I come through here, man, they be having a little stuff going on, but I'd be like on the run and shit So I'll be having to, you know Run it up that way Oh, yeah, I fuck with that. That shit looks dope though. Yeah, like he came by on the dirt bikers"],[82,"I've seen them on an electric dirt bike, bro. It's like, yeah I've seen them on the news. They was like, it was 30 of them. Oh, really? On electric dirt bikes? Yeah That's at least that's what the news said But they were all electric or no, they were not electric I don't know if there's electric, but there's a dirt bike. I'm about to say, that's some Colorado stuff. 30 electric dirt bikes. They in downtown looking like fucking Streets of Rage. Do you remember that game? I don't know about that. Oh, bro, that's old school. How old are you? 26. 26? Oh, okay, yeah, you kind of..."],[109,"No, you kind of young, but Streets of Rage should have been around. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't playing... You can't play video games! Oh, yeah, yeah, I feel you, I feel you. But what's it called? My mom didn't sound like that. I'm not going to drag her like that. I'll be, I'll be. What's it called? Woman's History Month, no less. Here I am, slandering her name. My mom's a goat. But what's it called? So I've been doing this thing where we go out and ask people this question every week. And the question this week is, what's the most important issue in the world today? Shit. The most important, or I mean, like the most, like the worst issue, like the worst problem that the world has, pretty much."],[150,"yeah man oh there's so much like where do I begin okay well I guess and I don't know if this is a world problem this might just be a here problem but y'all the fentanyl's got to stop you know what I'm saying for reals man talk about it talk about it man all right so I'm in at this sober living dude Dude, sober living, dude comes to the fucking, he comes to meeting high and shit and he falls over, dude falls over and just breaks his neck, like, you know what I'm saying, just linked out, just not thinking, like, sober living, we got beds, motherfucker, why don't"],[201,"you just go to bed, shit, don't even show up to groupers, you're gonna be falling over, breaking your neck, you know what I'm saying? So, that part, you know what I'm saying? Is sober living making a difference?"],[216,"Yes and no. I say yes and no. Like, for people who really have the power and the strength, you know, to really be like, hey, I'm done with this. You know, whatever addiction that may be, you know what I'm saying? If you, at the end of the day, it's going to be that that person who decides their fate, you know what I'm saying, if they want to keep on going that route. But that's one problem, and I don't know if that's a global problem, I think that might be a more local problem. I don't know if this is widespread or not, I don't know. I mean, you know, people in similar situations all over the world for sure. My second question"],[258,"is this, if you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them, if you could query the world. Shit. Okay, but honestly, can I change my answer? Sure, yeah, yeah. I think it's global warming. Maybe it's global warming. Whatever you want, man. I think global warming is the biggest problem. Yeah. I'ma take that back. Fentonite was pretty bad, but you know. I don't think it's bad. I think it's like addiction. I don't think it's the worst problem, no. Cause most, a lot of those people are like choosing that. You know what I'm saying? So, I'ma renege and I'ma say global warming"],[294,"is the is the world's like biggest shit going on and I say that because the earth is alive you know I'm saying you and I are both alive you know I'm saying shit this tree's alive everything that's just how we're here if the earth was dead we wouldn't be here you know I'm saying we'd be like Mars or some fucking place I don't know shit but you know but so we gotta start taking care of the earth Better, like Dude, Mother Earth Dude, we all living off of Mama You know what I'm saying And that's, have you ever heard your mama Say, like, the world ain't going nowhere"],[335,"Yeah Cause it fucking ain't Motherfucker ain't going nowhere It's gonna be right here You know what I'm saying So take care of it You know what I'm saying And that's it You know what I'm saying We gotta listen to her And sometimes she might scold us Like a parent would do And Who Knows What The Earth Might Stole Us With It Might Be Like A Tornado You Know What I'm Saying It Might Be Like I Told Y'all Motherfuckers I Don't Want That Shit Built There We Don't Know What She's Saying You Know Shit That's Pretty Much The Gist Though Hell Yeah That Was Killer I Appreciate That That Was An Epic Answer I Don't Know Man We Got All This Gasoline And Shit Going On You Know What I'm Saying We Got Cars And Shit The Gasoline Is Like Evaporating"],[385,"all the water, water molecules so it's not fucking raining or yeah it's pretty dry out here it's pretty dry out here"],[395,"oh for real my voice cracked so i said i guess we're going to jump in"],[400,"oh yeah you know what time it is oh yeah see the monopoly dude had to come down here the monopoly dude is crazy cooking these niggas on the corner okay What's it called? So if you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? Why you so gay? Can I explain? Okay. I don't know. I don't know what I would ask you. What does that mean though? Why you so gay? What does that even mean? He said, I don't got an answer. He said, that was an impulse. Had to let that one ride. No, that was actually an inside joke. and if somebody is watching this they're gonna know like Ronnie for real okay uh but uh i don't know bro i"],[450,"don't got no questions like any question it could be unserious don't gotta be what you guys also agree global warming is number one like if i could actually damn like that would be like this is the power i'm giving you man i don't know what i would ask the whole world yeah like and what y'all I'm gonna have to, well, I'm gonna be waiting for a fucking response then. Yeah, but don't worry. I handle that. We're like the AI now. All right. Okay, so shit. So you're clearing the globe. Clearing the globe. All right, y'all good, man. What else? What y'all want from a nigga? What else y'all want from a nigga, man?"],[484,"What? Shit. I got everything. I gave y'all everything. What? You're talking about me? Nah, the world. Oh, okay. I gave y'all everything, shit. Nigga, I don't know. Get creative around here, shit. Use These Fucking Tree Leaves For Something, I Don't Know What Would You Ask The World? I Don't Know What's Going On Right Now It's, Oh Yeah I Don't Know Shit I Don't Know Bro We're Like All Living On A Piece Of Space Rock Floating In The Middle Of Fucking Nowhere Like This Shit Don't Make Any Sense If You Ask Me None Of Me So I Say Everybody Just Like Enjoy Themselves Live Their Best Life Treat People Good Respect Each Other"],[527,"you know, and don't hurt one another, if you can help it, you know, and I, what the fuck,"],[536,"oh, somebody dropped something, do you see? I don't know where that came from, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. You guys didn't happen to see a ring roll by here? Yeah, yeah, it just went right over there by, yeah, right there by the intersection. I thought I was trippin'. If my ring is just too big on me, sometimes when I get really into talking, it just goes flying. Oh, she said just goes flying. Oh, okay Usually I'm inside though And I was Thank you Oh no, we're gonna come inside too It's getting cold outside"]]},{"id":"PCLjSkqhm5I","slug":"thirty-years-of-a-local-head-shop-and-why-community","title":"Frank on thirty years at Purple Haze and the art of glass","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Just building the community and going, you know? Oh, well, that's perfect. I tweeted community first last night. Let's go. Nice, dude. So, what's up, man? What's your name? My name is Frank. And I work here at Purple Haze, George's Local Head Shop. We've been in business for 30 years. And right now we're running an event called Final Friday. And it's basically just a bunch of local vendors, like homies and stuff, pulling up just to come hang out and vend their goods. You know, we do it every last Friday of the month, and the idea is just to have people come out and have a good time and"],[30,"show off what they do. Hell yeah. And so, what's the history of Purple Haze? Just a long-standing head shop in the Denver city city area. Okay, second. How did you start working here? Uh just through some homies. I collected glass for a long time, and my love of glass and like knowing glass artists got me the opportunity to start working here, and through that, like I've been here 8 years, and just built a role for myself in creating these events and Hell yeah. bringing more people to the stores and stuff. And you mentioned community. Why's Why's community important to you? Neighborhood, like working here for so long, I know like"],[67,"everybody in the hood, you know? It's like sick to connect with people just over a vape or papers or a bong or whatever and like building that like relationship just off of glass or weed, you know? And that's why I love this, like, you know, doing that. And I'm also eating a hot dog from Mister Sausage's damn good dogs in there. Yeah, they're good."],[90,"yeah, like I had I had to shout that out cuz they're fire. No, I did have one. I had one. I had one. I'm I'm I'm a fan. I'm like sometimes afraid of eating hot stuff, but I was like, I'm a man today."],[100,"Today, we're doing it. It's just chilly enough out. It's great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm diving into the abyss, doing all the scary things like making the videos, right?"],[107,"Hell yeah, dude. How you doing? Do you do any kind of creative stuff? I I blow glass. Uh it's not I don't so much see it as creative as just a hobby. I'm not a creative person, but I like to just, you know, do things."],[120,"been blowing glass? Mhm, like 4 or 5 years now. Okay, sick, sick, sick. You even making money? like so Yeah, I do. I saw a pipes here. I make butt plugs, pendants, marbles, and like small little spoons. And Purple Haze is, you know, I'm lucky enough that they scoop my stuff for me, and then I'm able to sell it to customers over the counter. You know, it's a great relationship I've got. And what would you say is something that you've learned through kind of facilitating this community here? Just getting uh uh getting back what you put in, you know, like this started because I wanted to sell my"],[156,"stuff, you know, like I do the vintage thing. I sell clothes and, you know, toys and stuff like that, and I just wanted a space that I could do it, and it turned into this now. I'm like I don't even have space. Like my racks got pushed outside, which is fine with me cuz it's a beautiful night, you know. Yeah, but which rack is yours? Where's your"],[170,"I've got clothing there and right here. Okay, so talk to us about it. That's sick. Perfect timing, huh? Yeah, yeah, that's why I came out here. Um I like animal prints and stuff. I've got like some sick ones. Like these mountain shirts are sick. Okay. Oh! Yeah, and then like this one I'm wearing, it's like a vintage Marv Rag shirt, like the brand. Okay. And then like just crazy stuff. More obscure stuff. How'd you get into clothes? I like clothes. I like T-shirts, yeah. Always? Yep. Yep, I've always had a crazy collection of anything I find I, you know, like get into I collect a lot of, you know. So"],[207,"since I was a kid I've had a lot of T-shirts. I've had a lot of glass marbles and stuff, and it's just led me here. Are you originally from here in Denver? Nope, I'm from central New York. Oh, really? Like where? Uh Rome is the city. It's like near Syracuse area. Okay, okay, that's sick, that's sick. I did New Year's in Ithaca this year. Why Why Ithaca, if I may ask? Yeah, why? Uh just like some friends I know like have people over at their house. Oh, nice, sick. Yeah, Ithaca is gorgeous, man. That is definitely beautiful."],[231,"Yeah, it's a dope place. We went up and looked at all the snow around uh Cornell and [bleeped] Oh yeah, yeah. It was beautiful. Fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm I'm based in Philly. So I've only been out here about maybe four or five weeks."],[241,"Nice, yeah. And like that's yeah, like we're doing these every month. We do a lot of other events, too. Like one of my coworkers, Suzanne, she started doing these events called high tea. Okay, what's that? That's where we basically just like brew tea and like get stoned, you know? Like we get some hash companies to come sponsor the event. They bring some samples. They like we try it all and like you know, just drink tea and smoke hash. [bleeped] yeah. How is it like like creating partnerships with like the the the big cannabis here in Denver?"],[273,"I don't I don't. Like I don't have any desire to like mess with big cannabis, you know? Like everybody that I've partnered up with has is a homie, you know? And that's I really would rather just deal with homies and like, you know, the guy that's growing the weed, washing the hash, like doing the whole thing, you know? It's just to me that's where the love is and like I see that in the product and when they bring their product to just to show off and people are amazed by it, that's, you know, the proof I need right there. So you think that's a big opportunity right now is"],[300,"like more of a grassroots cannabis industry as opposed to like big tobacco? I I think it'll always be, yeah. It always has and always will be, yeah. Like people always want the smaller batch, more cared for, you know, product. And yeah, like big cannabis will be a thing because, you know, cigarettes and Walmart, whatever, it's all a thing, capitalism. But there's always going to be places like this where we support, you know, quote-unquote the underground and the the gray area communities and stuff like that because that's what we thrive on, you know? Like those are our homies, those are the who support us, so we're"],[331,"going to support back. Okay, sick. And then my my last question, right? So I'm doing this like weekly contest where we we put up $100 bounty each week and people around the world can submit and we ask them to go out and ask a question. And it's like my project, We Them Media. So I have to go out and ask people the question. And the question this week is what's the most important global issue today? I would say global issue, I would say probably like the war with Israel. Like cuz it's affecting everybody. Maybe us trying to take over [bleeped] Venezuela and Denmark or whatever. Like,"],[364,"you know, [bleeped] that we're causing. Yeah, literally, right? Yeah. So, I saw an Instagram post today and it was like, \"Realizing we're the fire nation.\" Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like, \"What are we doing?\" You know, I And I'm not the greatest person to ask about this because I don't pay too much attention because it's it's just too much and it's just like"],[385,"I mean, where do you even look? Yeah, exactly. And it's just, you know, getting propaganda thrown at you and like, you know, my favorite thing is just to at these events is talk to people about what's bothering them and, you know, hearing from them and like hearing the different sources and their different opinions on things and being like, \"Okay, this is where we should be leading, you know?\" Mhm, absolutely. And I mean, that's the value of community, right? Is having those spaces. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, where you can feel open and like accepted to talk about what you're like, you know, what's going on in your life and what you're afraid"],[412,"of or what you're worried about, you know? Yeah, yeah, and feel supported and feel seen and really get to make sense of it with people's perspectives, too."],[418,"Yeah, exactly. And if somebody doesn't have the same perspective, like it's a, you know, you don't have to feel like you're going to be shot down or, you know, disrespected because of that, you know? We're all very much on the same page and like just want a better world. You know, that's why we're doing these, you know? Smoke weed and chill. Hell yeah. I'm curious, if you could ask people around the world any question, what would you ask them? Why aren't you more neighborly? Why aren't more people talking to their neighbors and creating more of a community? Like, you know, why has it got to be online on"],[455,"Facebook keyboard warrior [bleeped] Like, be out there. Be at these events talking to people, you know, like spreading the word, not just, you know, hiding or shying away or whatever it is. Oh, yeah. You want to shout out your Instagram or anything like that or this place? Uh just Purple Haze, yeah. I'd love to shout out Purple Haze. We're shop Purple Haze on Instagram. And yeah, like follow us. We're always doing events. Like everybody's always welcome. You know, like reach out to me on that Instagram. I run it, so I'll, you know, I'll be the one you're talking to and, you know, go from there. [bleeped]"],[490,"yeah."]]},{"id":"cSQnnU1hiDk","slug":"a-media-graduate-considering-the-military","title":"Ethan, from media to military","place":"Boulder","who":"Tim Palka","paras":[[1,"So, I don't know. Your name was again? Ethan. Ethan, Tim. Nice to meet you. Hey, are you from Denver? I'm from Maryland. Maryland? Nice. I'm from Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh. He's from Philly. East Coast. What part of Maryland? Ocean City. Ocean City, cool. Yeah, have you ever been to like D.C., skated around there and stuff? Like Freedom Plaza, that's my jam. Fuck yeah. So, what brought you out to Denver, Colorado? I just graduated Boulder. Nice. I was in Boulder for four years, just came out here for shits and giggles And then it's kind of working out for you? Yeah, I got one more semester at Boulder and then heading back to Maryland"],[39,"Nice, do you have any plans for the future then? Going back to Maryland and enjoying yourself? Back and forth, it's the only one, you gotta like hand the mic Oh, okay, well Just swing it back and forth because it's only one mic Do you have any plans for going back to Maryland at the moment? Now I'm just going to work at a restaurant and try to bum out and surf for a little bit Yeah, there is surfing out there on the east coast, let it be heard, there is That's where I learned to surf, New Jersey Hell yeah So, besides that, I mean you have any, you know, with this economy, all this bullshit going on"],[76,"I mean, we can't really trust to make minimum wage and even survive these days"],[84,"I'm not going to go into your degree or nothing, but do you have any ideas on how people are going to deal with that in the future? Dude, it is pretty hard right now. I have a bunch of friends just graduated. I have no idea what they're doing. Can't get a job. I'm a media production major in minor communications, so it's kind of nice because everyone's trying to get some media out there. They need people to know how to make it, but I do think I'm going to go into the military. Okay, no, there's a lot of good people in the military too I come from a military family, so"],[115,"Thinking about doing that Heck yeah, I mean also That's what we're doing at the moment So, you know, we're trying to meet other I think We Them Media We Them Media as in we and them Anyone who wants to get involved Anywhere in the country, I think they can at the moment In the world In the world I think there's some people skating across Africa I haven't talked to them yet, but we're trying to But yeah, besides that I'm happy to hear Like, people do have plans, you know, and because, you know, it's hard to kind of keep staying positive out here You know, just talking to more people and figuring out, you know, hey, what is everyone actually thinking?"],[156,"What are people thinking? What are people thinking these days? So, you know, I'm happy to talk to you. Yeah, hell yeah. Ethan. Ethan? Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's nice to meet you guys. Yeah, nice to meet you too. Wait, wait, wait. I want to know, you're doing this media stuff. What's most interesting to you about media stuff? True. I like the storytelling aspect of it. So, talking about the media stuff, I was wondering what kind of interest you and put you in the media realm. What do you like about it? I just love the storytelling aspect of it. Really just feeling that emotion through the visuals and the editing. That's my favorite part. I'm a big editor."],[189,"Yeah, no, me too. You can film anything you want, but as soon as you start editing, it can turn into a real masterpiece, in my opinion. You can change it any way you want. Make anyone feel a certain way. Yeah, so I love that part about it, too. Hell yeah. Well, Ethan, I know it's kind of laid out here. We're walking the dog. Appreciate you stopping. No problem. Heck yeah, man. I see you, brother. Yeah, yeah. See you later. Peace. Nice to meet you, too. Nice to meet you, too. I'm recording you skating off into the distance. Unless you want to hit my Instagram. I'll give you my Instagram."],[221,"I like it, though."]]},{"id":"UrpIMyx4nF8","slug":"warehouse-raves-hard-style-and-seattle-versus-denver","title":"Bam Bam’s first impressions of the Mile High City","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"For the vibes, little kid. Always. Okay. And so, Bam Bam, yeah. Yes, sir. Can you tell people your name? My name's Bam Bam. I'm from around here-ish, yeah. Oh, yeah. What's your favorite thing about Denver? The people, for sure. I haven't been a super big fan of, like, the scene here, except for, like, the underground music, but the people, yeah, that's what makes me stay. Okay, so what would you say about the underground music scene here? They got, they throw dumb like warehouse raves, like, I don't know, certain lit or like phone lists, like they'll just send you to like these warehouses out in the middle of nowhere, like under a bridge in the sewers, throw insane raves until like five, six in the morning. Love that shit. They don't got that like in Washington where I'm actually from."],[67,"A lot of stinky motherfuckers. I mean, I love the music. The people are awesome, too, but some of them just need to take a shower more often, dude. I'm not even going to front. Like, we're all in a warehouse together. Like, put on some Old Spice, please, for the love of God. I hear it. I hear it. But, and so do you make music? I dabble. Okay. What kind of stuff do you make?"],[95,"The shit, usually like very like old school New York-ish hip-hop beats or like like, you know, Griselda. I mean, you know Wu-Tang. Yeah. That's a lot of my inspiration or like MF Doom, Westside Gunn. Love those motherfuckers. So that's usually what I try to emanate. Okay, and how did you get into hip-hop? Just friends. Friends got music, studios. I just come in. Sometimes I try to throw a bar in there, but I think I need to stick to the techie side. I'm not too lyrical. Yeah, that's fair. I thought you were going to say that the raves aren't like hip-hop raves, no? Well, I mean, sometimes they can be, but not usually. I'm not super into the super wubby shit. I love hardstyle. That's my shit."],[146,"Is that a big thing here in Denver? Not surprisingly. Surprisingly not. I wish it was. It's more of like a European, like, Netherlands, Berlin, Amsterdam. So how is there a scene here in Denver? Very scarce. I mean, the scene here is more like wubby, dubstep, bass shit. I like a lot of the bass shit, but I don't know, dude. Dubstep just grinds my gears. You don't like dubstep? Dubstep's no good? I don't like the screechy whiny shit I like the you know the wubby lubby I mean it depends I don't know it's a weird it's all this it's not all the same they're very nuanced I don't know but I fuck with the I fuck with the harder hitting shit"],[192,"okay who are like some names we should know in hardstyle like oh hards for the people who don't know crude intentions oh yeah I like that face this way it's more like yeah yeah yeah yeah crude intentions the purge Mutilator, oh my god, I fucking love that motherfucker"],[211,"Who else? CrowdX Little Texas, Sub-Zero Project Those are some of my names, yeah If you could speak to the peak of this genre of music When was it and how did it happen? SoundCloud music is like, if that's a framework I don't know if you know how SoundCloud came to work But it's like a scene developed, it proliferated And now here we are I think it definitely started in, like, the Netherlands, like, or, um, I don't know, Berlin, Amsterdam, they all got, like, that very, like, deep techno house, I think is, it's, like, hard, I can't remember what it's called It's okay But they got this, um, their techno there is very, like, deep in hits, and I think it just kind of evolved from that, maybe, I don't know, early, like, late 90s, or to, like, Russia, too, I think"],[267,"Oh yeah, they fucking love it over there. That's when they got the guys in the tracksuits fucking Oh yeah? I can't, I know, I can't hit that shit, I can't hit that shit But no, yeah, that's where it originated. I'm glad it fucking found its way out here But not enough. There's not really any hardstyle raves out here Okay, where's like the most prominent, what are you gonna say? Oh, I'm saying there is one coming up. I think it's at the, I think it's at Vinyl actually And what day is that? Shit, I don't know man, I'd have to check Okay, maybe you'll let me know"],[297,"I'll let you know, yeah, let me get your digits Oh, yeah, dude No, they're sick, dude Oh, they're so much fun It's like the exact kind of music I want when I'm at like a club or like at a show Hell yeah Hell yeah What's it called? You say you came out here from Seattle What's like the biggest difference you see between here and like outside the music scene, right? Like at the people level, how people talk to each other, how they interact The culture, I guess, you know? The people here are like completely the opposite That's it, like everyone in Seattle is, not everyone, there's cool people there, but the vibe is just like, stay away from me, I don't want to talk to you. Like if you do this in Seattle, you'll get like fucking nobody. But Denver, I feel like most people are just chill, like they're down to, it might be the weather too. It's always gray there, everyone's sad all the time."],[345,"Yeah, I heard that. But I don't know, people here just smoke a lot more weed and chill out. We got sunshine all the time. Way too much recently, too. Our fire season's going to be fucked up. But yeah, dude, just the people. Shout out to the water. You what? Shout out to the water. Shout out water, man. Hey, dude, we need some more of that. I think it's probably going to snow soon, hopefully. But yeah, the people and the weather is probably the two biggest Just like opposite differences. Although, Washington is way more beautiful. The trees, the fucking, I love moss. The woods, big ass trees too. Because all these were planted. We don't got, like, we're in a desert technically."],[387,"Yeah. Isn't that crazy? We're in a fucking desert. Yeah. Elevated desert, dude, it's fucking wild. They make you think it's not a desert. No, it is. But it explains a lot. It's literally classified as an elevated desert. But, um, yeah, weathering the people, man. But I'm glad I'm out here, you know, it's been fun, it's a vibe Oh yeah, my last question is, what's a message you have for the people under 8? Under 8?"],[417,"Stay in school until you graduate high school And then after that, only go to college if you really need to Because otherwise, you'll just be in a world of hurt If you don't need a degree to do what you want to do, then don't do it Just do what you want No, no, oh my god No, I just, uh, I make it happen It's all we can do, right? It's all we can do, try my best out here Oh yeah, man, well I appreciate it No, I appreciate you, bro What was your name again? Maceo Maceo, hey Bam Bam So my page is called We Them Media"],[451,"And I've been having people say Booyah Booyah? Yeah, so you can say it with me at the end of 3, 2, 1 Ready? 3, 2, 1 Booyah!"]]},{"id":"iAJqVTCV3cA","slug":"dont-move-to-colorado-unless-youre-ready-to-confront-yourself","title":"Tim at Cheesman Park: a lore walk through old Denver money","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[3,"It's already on YouTube. That's how it works. I live stream to YouTube. You do? Yeah. Oh, you're on live stream. Yeah, say hi, chat. Hi, chat. There's no chat. Oh, thank God. I'm just so global. Nah, it's okay. It's okay. That's supposed to lower people's walls. That girl said, don't upload that to YouTube. I said, uh, she said, okay. I said, You know who Amelia Earhart is? Yeah, the airplane chick. Yeah. Okay, you see that light over there? You can put the camera over there."],[35,"There's trees over here. That open field right here. That's where she landed at on her first tour. Oh, really? Yeah. In Denver, Colorado? Yeah. So all the rich folks are at the pavilion and all the poor folks. Denver, Colorado is an old money state, huh? Yes. But, that's who she got out of the plane and me. poor folk this side but beyond that, on that side homie's right bro about the grave digger EP McGovern if I was correct $1.70 a day $1.70 a day so back in those days that's like $70 bro"],[80,"why don't we bury these people we'll just get this done think about it, right here bro where we're at right now this is It's an inspiration for Steven Spielberg Spielberg, yeah, I was about to say Steven King for some reason And can you also Okay, so like, let's say Nothing that we just say, like Alright, can you Can you also say, like, have you been in this park A lot? There's so much energy, there's so much Real personality Are you kidding me? No, I'm not saying like I've seen some shit in this park You guys had never fucking seen me Not like ghost whores and all that bullshit"],[119,"I've seen ghosts and I know history about this park I want to hear that later, but my question was"],[126,"No other park in Denver Has the energy that people Bring to this park, in my opinion I agree I agree, chat, I agree This park brings People come here with their personal problems And they try to solve them It could be alcohol And it's all out For some reason, it's here Come here on a Saturday a Sunday during the summer, you'll probably never want to leave Denver because you probably met five people that you've been waiting to meet for the like your home. You know what I mean? You know, I have good feelings here during the day, but at night time, it's a whole other animal."],[163,"I don't normally come here at night because I have to bike through, I live nearby, but I'm just like, why am I here? Right, I get the same feeling too, because I do photography, and I'm like, why the fuck am I here?"],[176,"I just met you guys Steal wheel photography Every time I do a steel wheel photography Wherever I go pulls people in It's dark, you know Where else are you gonna be where you're in like a place a big major city and people are coming down laughing and enjoying themselves like right now So, you know this I I'm really happy. I moved to Capitol Hill When I went through a breakup And I moved to Denver because I lived here in 2015 I moved to the mountains, Winter Park Fell in love with Colorado Only place I ever felt home, for real And I thought it was just, oh well, maybe that's just like a thing"],[218,"But I went to New York City, D.C., Florida I've done road trips all over the East Coast And then when I finally came back to reevaluate if I should be here It Just Felt Like I Picked Up Where I Left Off And Like Why Wasn't I Over Here The Whole Time I Try To Stay But You Know Things Are Expensive It'S Very Possible And I Don'T Want Everyone To Move Here It'S Not For Everybody A Lot Of People Hate It A Lot Of People Like You'Re Going To Find Some Very Difficult Lonely Times You'Re Going To Be Battling With Your Own Mind Like Who Are You Who Are You As A Person If You'Re Not Ready To Confront Yourself Don'T Move To Colorado"],[260,"Don't leave Colorado if you're not ready to confront yourself because that's that's exactly that's why people got to go back So if you're ready to fucking make shit happen for yourself ready to confront yourself ready to Understand that like it's only you and only you who can change your situation There's other people out here like you and you can do it But you got to weed through the crowd because half those people most people are gonna meet they're moving back to their home city tomorrow You're not gonna be friends with them not happening unless you're gonna follow them. Guess what? You're gonna fucking ruin your life anyways"],[289,"Be yourself Be proud of yourself Know you were born with a gift Come here with the expectation that this is where you're gonna start your shit You might have a better experience than three-fourths, you know, of people You know what I mean, like, it's been a challenge It's been a challenge, but I'm okay with it And I know I'm where I'm supposed to be That's it I feel like that's like my cap of, my recap of moving here two and a half years ago it really puts you in the position of are you going to own up to your shit or not and if not"],[325,"promise you you're not going to be here so love you all love love that's that's me i think other people will agree with that though i promise real quick yeah i want to give a shout out to the denver communists my cousin was killed here in denver they were the first organization, well, the organization here in Denver showed up. Like I said, my cousin, Paul Castaway, he was killed here in 2015, or, yeah, 2015, well, July 12th, fuck 12th, 2015, but, yeah, that was my cousin, like, he was my, my guy, you know what I mean?"]]},{"id":"vIBsSEtFJbY","slug":"fourteen-banks-ten-years-and-pearl-and-colfax","title":"The self-proclaimed biggest bandit in Denver","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Homeless [bleeped] I'm from St. Louis. I just got through doing 10 years in federal prison for bank robbery out of Denver. Oh, yeah? I robbed more banks than any [bleeped] in this city. You look me online, Clearinghouse Bandit. I robbed 14 banks in this [bleeped] Okay."],[14,"Look me online, Clearinghouse Bandit. Can I interview you? Yeah, yeah, I get an interview, you hear me? Okay, clip this on you? How long is going to take? It's You can tell me when to stop. Yeah, cuz I'm trying to keep flying catching my ear. Okay, you're trying to what? Yeah, well, well, well."],[26,"to catch somebody, I understand. Yeah. It's nice to meet you. I'm Masaya. Masaya. a project that's called We Them Media. Where you from? You going to give me your website? Yeah, yeah, for sure. You can see it. I'm posting on Instagram, it's going to be on YouTube."],[38,"Okay. I do Yeah, it's going to be on this other platform, Farcaster. All right. Uh Well, I'm known as the Clearinghouse Bandit here in Denver. You can look me up online, I'm on all on the internet. I robbed 14 banks in this [bleeped] Went and did 10 years in in in in federal prison for bank robbery and murder out of car robbery frame. My name is Jennifer Griffin. I ain't going to play no games with you. God, I used to hustle streets here. Now it's a bunch of homeless homeless low-down scandalous dope fiend [bleeped] down here. Used to be some hustlers down here. Ain't no"],[67,"hustlers down here anymore. But I'm from St. Louis, and Denver ain't it ain't [bleeped] no more. It's a [bleeped] dope fiend city. I'm just telling you what it is. I'm getting ready to go back to Seattle where some real [bleeped] money is at. Yeah, it's cool. I didn't knock [bleeped] out on that corner, robbed [bleeped] up and down the streets here. You know me, St. Louis. But I just got out of federal prison, I've been out 4 months. Okay, how you spent your months since you got out? Uh I got I got a job. I'm working UPS. Okay. I'm working at UPS. Basically staying out of"],[96,"trouble. Been drug-free for like 10 years. I don't [bleeped] with nothing. I don't use, I only smoke cigarettes, I don't drink none of that. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just walking through this area here, just old memories, you know? There ain't nobody down here when I was down here coming through here. And getting ready to head to a friend's house, you know what I'm saying? Oh, that's it."],[115,"But yeah, yeah, I remember these streets used to be these streets used to be a lot better than what they are now, man. It's just just a different I guess a different drug, too. Back then it was a bunch of crack down here. Pearl and Colfax used to be the one of the most moneyest getting streets in this [bleeped] city. You could hang stand on Pearl and Colfax and make a thousand dollars an hour."],[135,"Mhm. Yeah, I'm telling you. It was [bleeped] city. I came here from St. Louis. This is the first place I started hanging out at. Yeah, Pearl and Colfax. I used to be the deceiving [bleeped] area right here."],[145,"Yeah, but ain't [bleeped] That always That that used to always I always knew it was 12:00 cuz at 12:00 that [bleeped] always rang. And it's supposed to be a turn to lifestyle community, but you know you know, it's it's gays now. They I don't They don't bother me. I don't bother them. You know, people do do what they do down here. You know what I'm saying? But the city changed a whole lot. It didn't kind of It didn't kind of vibe up a little bit. And one of the reasons that vibed up a little bit was because when when when marijuana came in, it kind of like actually drove"],[177,"up the cost of living here cuz they used These motels used to be like $35, $40 a night. Now they're like $75, $80 a night. You could actually rent one for a week. You could actually rent one for a week for like $300. Now you can't even live one. That's why you got so many homeless people out here. They need to do more I I never lived on the streets. I always kept me a motel or or a spot to live in, but you know uh not now. It's It's just, you know, it's it's a different world out here now, man. You know, different characters. You know"],[206,"what I'm saying? A lot of these [bleeped] make you [bleeped] them up and kill them out. And I don't have no problem I don't have no problems. Woo. Yeah, your dog kind Yeah. Yeah, I have no [bleeped] problem with accommodating them because you got a bunch of stupid [bleeped] out here that try some stupid [bleeped] cuz they don't give a [bleeped] about if they live or die. You know what I'm saying? You're good."],[226,"What's up, homie? Where I know you from? I'm St. Louis. We were somewhere Huh? All right, come on. We were somewhere together. You been to the feds? Where were you at the feds? No, the feds. You was that state. You look kind of familiar, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be safe out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a different world out here. You look still look kind of familiar. But yeah, man. It's it's it's you know, people used to be always been homeless people down here, but they just like robbing them like they just had somewhere to live and stay and [bleeped] you know what I'm saying? But yeah, man."],[262,"That's my interview, bro. Uh I have one more question. I'm curious. Somebody's been asking me to ask you about the internet. How do people see the internet? Is the internet good for us, bad for us? Um Has it been making a I think the internet is good because I think you can learn you can go around get make contact do a lot of things a lot quicker on the internet. I think the internet is a good thing. It has some bad things to it, too. With all the you know, the porno and all the but anything anything that starts"],[290,"Bless you. Good. It's going to end up in a bad [bleeped] way. You know, that's just that's that's just that's just that's just Yeah, how you doing, bro? That's just a cycle of life, you know what I'm saying? Anything that starts off good it's going to end up bad. Anything that starts off bad can turn good. Yeah. But yeah, the internet I think the internet is good. People is learning. People are learning being taught. So, the internet is is a good thing. People learn quicker and faster. Get information quicker and faster. But I tell you one thing I've been I've been I've been growing up"],[321,"in the penitentiaries three states in Illinois, Missouri, Watson State, and been to the feds. I have been hustling all across this country from New York all the way here all the way to California, Seattle, Portland, Salt Lake City, Reno, Las Vegas, all that. And I'll tell you one thing that put a dent in crime, it wasn't DNA cell phones. The reason cell phones put a dent in crime because people can can can can contact the police and get them to the scene, take pictures. That it would put a dent in crime. Have a good day. You know what I mean? Talk"]]},{"id":"C2FroCKz9wk","slug":"montbello-then-and-now-and-a-note-to-self","title":"Walking the East Side: street footage from Denver","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[3,"Okay, smooth. Can you hear me? Yeah. Oh, what is that? It's like a microphone. Yeah. Hello. Where? Tell Tell us where we're at. We have a Colfax in like [bleeped] Oh, no. Uh, Pennsylvania."],[23,"You know, I'm actually from Pennsylvania, so it's funny you say that. Let's go. We can walk and talk. or we walk and talk. Yeah, we're going to walk and talk. And what's your name?"],[34,"Uh, Lil J Money. Lil J Money. I'm out here with Lil J Money. And this is Colfax in Pennsylvania. You from out here in Denver?"],[41,"Yeah, I'm from Denver. Okay. And so how old are you? I'm 39 years old. 39 years old. And so how what do you think about how Denver has changed over the course of your lifetime?"],[55,"Denver changed a lot. Mhm. What are the main ways that you think about like what comes to mind? No, it's Colfax and Logan. Oh, it's okay. I appreciate you correcting us. It's estimated is cool to me,"],[69,"but like what are things you think about when you think about growing up in Denver? What part of Denver are you from? Montbello. Okay. So, yeah, growing up in Montbello, like what do you think about? What comes to mind?"],[78,"Uh, Montbello changed a lot from when I was growing up gang banging and all that in Mello. Mhm. But now it changed a lot now. No more gang banging in Montbello."],[91,"What's it like in Montbello now? I don't like it no more. Yeah, but what's it like out there? It changed a lot. Like got white people out there and rich white folks out there."],[105,"Oh yeah. Yeah. You feel like a lot of people move to Denver, right? Yeah. How do you feel like that's impacted the city and people who are from Denver? Uh, I feel different."],[119,"It feels different. Yeah. How did it used to feel? Oh, like back in the day. Yeah. It was crazy. No, it not the same way. But come to east side, you getting shot and smoked."],[134,"Oh, yeah. Yep. Oh, it's dangerous in the east side, huh? Yep. On the east side, it's dangerous. I hear that. You you getting shot and killed on the east side."],[143,"Oh yeah, that's right now. Yep. Where we at right now? That's where we're at right now. Yep. Okay. Okay. You got Bloods and Crips over here right now."],[154,"Okay. Hey. And [bleeped] paces and [bleeped] you know? That's like the music, right? Huh? No, that's drugs. Yeah. I'm funny. Are you going? I'm going I'm trying to get me a cigarette."],[169,"Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's walk there. Where'd I get the cigarette from? Hold this. You coming back? Well, I'm out here with Ashley. I've been walking this dog and this Caleb's dog, but I got myself some some Thai food, some sako, I think it's what it's called. I wished my sister among other important ladies in my life, a happy International Women's Day. I coached the communication course day two today. Um, which was fantastic. I feel like it's really been a journey to just feel at ease and be concerned about my family, wondering what I could do for them. And that was that's kind of like how I've been feeling since I've been"],[244,"out here. I'm like, \"Oh, I wonder what's going on at home.\" And not concerned, they're not worried about me, but just genuinely being concerned, interested, and they all appreciated me checking in. And it's crazy though waking up at 5:30 in the morning. I can't imagine being in Pacific time for this course. Different breed these people who stay up all night for these courses. I guess I did that when I was traveling for the conferences. But coaching, nah, I think it's very different to be on that weekend and be halfway present in the middle of the night than it is to uh to be in this"],[281,"thing. Well, that's cool though. Yeah, I had my week right before he's in Thailand. Yeah, gave him the world accountability holder. But um I don't know. This [bleeped] wants his cigarette. He's even coming back. But I guess I could just talk. I've been thinking um that while I'm here, I want to shoot content kind of docu documenting uh what Caleb and uh what Caleb and Timothy are doing. you know, the journey with Ecstatic Productions with IKYK. Um, I'm just kind of using We Them Media as a vehicle to build in public on this, you know, soon to be protocol. You know, I'm walking around doing all this other"],[322,"stuff, but I figured that's a nice that's a nice approach. So, that's kind of what it is."]]},{"id":"uSyxfx1ldXE","slug":"first-friday-freestyle-on-the-corner-of-santa-fe","title":"A First Friday freestyle, caught on camera","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Flipping a bit of the best of my time. I'm trying to do this. Please believe good Jesus. They never believe us. Never leave us. But it's late night. And it's all right. And it's hard walk. And I got But I kill it. Nah, it's not like that. I'm just a nice cat who likes to paint black and white. As a matter of fact, as the vantes, you know that's I rather be fast with the inner state concrete where people love the hate. But no one sees them. Please believe them. I will deepen the friendship for all human beings. This is the scene that I'm seeing. And"],[40,"every human being believes respect. Let's believe that they threat. What if they silently right now? That's assassination crowds. like that. We back. We better go that dance. I'm trying to do this. So there easy one silver wax so sleazy back to the method right here like I'm sipping a voodoo beer. I don't even really like this [bleeped] but my one of my best friends brought that is so I'm drinking all night. That's what I like. And in fact I like the Rubik's cubes but could never solve it. That's good. Why did they make a game I couldn't play? It's okay. your own hip hop parade. I'm not that, but I"],[132,"might be classic. If you look at my life, it might be tragic, but I had a fun every single day. And I keep living that [bleeped] way. So when I pass away, I hope y'all realize I love that [bleeped] Hip hop till I die."],[152,"Very sick. Very sick. in the space. Usually he I used to love to skate, but then I bought a one. How that feel? Yo, let me get the mic when you're ready."],[182,"You got a we go back and forth, man. I don't know why endorphins plus a little bit of cerebral headies. When I'm ready to rap, I'm ready. I keep it steady like a concrete flow. And then I try to grow even though the soil is steady like a concrete. I can't do it. You already know. I lost my goddamn Oh [bleeped] back and forth. It's okay to grab a mic. It's a sweet freestyle like it's right. I got a mind you and everybody got a point of view in opinion. Even in the stinks, he cares. What the [bleeped] do you think?"],[252,"It's much easier for Oh, all day. You don't have to push yourself too far. Hey, okay. We got big cows in the [bleeped] I want [bleeped] Big bully [bleeped] [bleeped] in the back of the fishing faded again. How you feeling? These days I' been out here. It all depends. It all swings like the moose. Came through like where I'm supposed to go. I came through with a goddamn truth. I feel so clear now. Spin around like a straight down. You feel me? I don't have to tell your mother. Filling up like a Daly Lama. Yeah, I do this [bleeped] so properly. Coloss it down my knees. Okay. Touch, touch,"],[303,"tag, freeze. Okay. fit it once again. You can depend. I'm out here young with my boy Caligan. Yeah, I forgot this dog's name, but she's here chilling. She's about to make a million. She's right here. She a man. She out here. She killing. Yeah. Out here spinning about to pass it to my man one time. Come through. Rip it like a sister. I don't really give a [bleeped] what you talking about. Give me tools. I be [bleeped] walking out."],[346,"Season highways. So sees highways. So I'm seeing sideways. So one sees with no delay. Gradually everybody dying gradually. Death is all I see. Ever bothers me. Why don't we? brought a be in a tree. Know that's for free RPGs. Used to play them a lot, but now I just sit back and smoke pot. Now I just make art in my home. It's okay. Never had a home. Never had a gun to never remember. Yo, I don't philosophy political fact is good enough for me. This how I live cuz I'm broke. I smoke hot. I do what I want. I like Bernie Sanders, but he's too much. It's okay."],[395,"Sit back and rush. You love me too much about the politics. Could you follow this to follow through? I know that I'm not that dude and I'm not too on the go. So with your lady on your titties, look, that's a fact. very sing I'mma jump in. I'm going to jump in."],[467,"Yeah, please. Yo, you want me to hold that [bleeped] Yeah. Yeah, I got you. [bleeped] yeah. I appreciate you. Oh, I appreciate you catching that. Damn. He's not my mic or even the vape. If I drop any of this now here on the corner of Santa Fe and I ain't dropping bars with the sky details and what's your name?"],[490,"Yo, High You got to hold that up. Take two table. It's like a character cable or something. I can't remember what it was, but it's something. I'm on a corner and they're having a function now. I want a camera in this thing, but I'm a different type of cat. I don't really sleep. Wake up, smoke weed. Go back to Damn. Oh, I could have said anything. I could have said anything. Uh, I'm out of here. I'm rapping. There's a bounty up to be rapping a freestyle about this platform called Big S. It didn't happen. I guess this is it. So, I've been throwing up these, bounties. Anyone"],[532,"around the globe, you can come and claim it. Go outside, ask some questions, do it on video. Do it with blessings. You know, you just need some swag and finesse it. Ask them the right things. Let them believe they're talking about how they plate interviews on. What's the question this week? What made you smile? Okay. Okay. Once in a while, I drive bars. This is really spontaneous. I honestly probably would have forgot I said I do this cuz I know who to follow through the way I should. The way I say I will is true. But I guess I'm getting realer and realer. I planned out some time on my"],[569,"calendar next week. I said I'm going to do it this time. That way at least I'll know I did it when the time passes. I guess I'm getting more organized, more robust. Yeah. Yeah. I must be st guy on the corner. She's talking about whatever I want. Yeah. I said I reached out. So I did it for Kenny and I didn't"],[602,"stop. He's the funniest [bleeped] Let's go. Let's go. No, it's all good. I wear my heart on my sleeve cuz you never really know which day could be last so you got to go. Yeah, we out here living spreading love Brooklyn. I'm on the corner like I always singing cupcakes till I caught a buzz. I got the cupcakes. That's how I bought my first car and I knew I go far. It don't hurt. Come here. It don't hurt. You can get a little closer. You always bring the most."],[645,"I'm the most. I think I'm awesome. How about you? Yeah, we got dogs in the crew. We always go hard like you always knew. We getting down every time we bump in town. That's why you always ground."],[663,"The ride of your life only comes through town only once or twice. [bleeped] that. comes around every day. You can say make it happen. Make it this way. The whole team coming up. That's what's up. We all go to the top and you know we get down when we're down. Sometimes I'm sad. I turn it around. What makes you smile today? Doing this right here in a pretty way."],[688,"I love you, too. How about everybody? Can we bring more love? She I like that. I like that. Okay. Okay. Freestyle on the corner with DJ Kell. DJ Vels."],[710,"You jumping in. You jumping in. You have to hold the wire in. I was told. where skateboard skateboard drop it like it's hard drop it like it's hard drop it like it's hard push kick push kick push kick push p and house and house kick push kick push Kick push kick push some [bleeped] I hate my feet in the earth. Got it. I'm about to spit it out. You know I surp You know that I be I ain't going down for you [bleeped] fool. Listen up. You know that I just got some [bleeped] I'm about to spin the rules. Huh? coming. I don't really give a [bleeped] Do"],[779,"you see the picture that you shut the [bleeped] up with us? I'm a sit on the beat and you got a heat glass jack on his feet. Can I I want to ask you a question. Give me."],[810,"So, we're doing a weekly question. We go out and ask people, do a man on the street. And the question is, what's something that made you smile today?"],[817,"And I'd love next time you freestyle, if you throw it in there. Make an arm with my friends. Just make an art with my friends while we're out here."],[824,"Hell yeah. It's all about the art. Hell yeah. I like it. That's even better. I make all the jewelry over there in those pieces. Okay. Yeah, that's it. Friday. I do this my way my way on highway. Too high for my own baby. Too high for me. I said that before. I got the magic door. You can predict my moves. I'm so smooth when I come through the street. I like freestyles and love. I love sad that I could go over that. Let's repeat myself and go back to the beginning when enemy need descending. But I don't know the snake and yo every you make but I do like to play like"],[872,"that. Look, I can say that don't hit me. Don't dismiss me. I like cuz I got too fresh. What do you like? Let's mash a little bit on the street. I don't know. I'm about to spit another type of [bleeped] flow. Listen up. Got the mic in my hand. Be care. I just believe one beat."],[917,"Yo, this is my last one. Thank you guys for hanging out on the corner. Shouts out High League for the dope bar. First Fridays in Denver. We out here."],[935,"Making my way through the hood, sipping this y. [bleeped] about to get blown with the flick. I like Yeah. Riding around the block with a Glock. Your ass get shot. That's the grenade launcher. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. And now you bleed. G in your neck the noise. You know I will shoot you in your eyes just so I can hear the Making my way through the hood sipping this yank. [bleeped] about to get blown with the Mac. Round the block with a Glock. Your ass f to get shot."],[1008,"That's the That's the grenade. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. And now you bleeding. You want to shout out your socials or something? Want to see people can see your your jewelry? You want to shout out your socials?"],[1027,"Yes. Lot boy jewelry. I'm on lot. Catch me out here all day, all night. Opening a lot of [bleeped] Hell yeah. Nice to meet you. This has been a good night."],[1036,"Yeah. Yeah. You guys are fun. On their radar for Paul. Thanks, guys. That's a wrap. We'll be back next. We'll be back. WE CALL IT BACK and it's going to be louder."],[1054,"I like it. This is definitely sick. You guys are definitely a crowd. Yeah, you're crashing into No, you guys are sick. I was like, okay. I said now they're freestyling over there. I said I'm supposed to freestyle."],[1067,"Oh, that's pretty sick. There's a guy. He has like a 50 bucks up for the best person to come on and freestyle about their platform."],[1073,"So, yeah, if I if I win, I'm excited. Hell yeah. I got I got a cipher on video. Okay. What's your name? Sean. Sean, it's nice to meet you. Mo,"],[1083,"cheers, man. So, can I ask you my question for the week for this platform? We're going out and doing like video journalism. We give away 100 bucks a week to whoever submits the our favorite video. Okay."],[1092,"And the question this week is, what's something that made you smile this week? It's my first time in Denver. Denver made me smile. What brought you out here?"],[1103,"Checking out Denver. Okay. Hell yeah. And so, you don't know these guys at all? I know. I know. Okay. I'm like, oh, you just happen to be here?"],[1111,"No, no, no. No, he's a Vermont boy. I'm a Vermont boy. Oh, I'm going to I'm going to Bradleber, Vermont next weekend. No [bleeped] You know where that is?"],[1118,"Sure do. Oh, hell yeah. I'm like, let me throw a pen on a map. Yeah. What are you going there for? I just have some friends who are meeting up there from from a program I do."],[1126,"Yeah. Cool. That makes me smile. Yeah. There you go. I'm excited. We We're all online for our class, so it'll be our first time hanging out in person. Maybe in a couple months."],[1136,"Um I'm I'm curious. Do you have any questions you would want to ask people around the world? or some place you've never been that you want to go."],[1146,"Okay, I like that. I like that. What? Any other ones? There's nothing wrong with that one. That's it. All right. Hell yeah. Appreciate it, man. They serve."]]},{"id":"tZRn0IQTEp4","slug":"truth-discourse-and-being-called-a-gentrifier-colfax","title":"Gaming culture and street life at the arcade on Colfax","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[1,"Hell yeah. What are your names? Chase. James. Hell yeah. I'm Maceo. This is for We Them Media. And this is actually for poidh. poidh, it's Pixar It Didn't Happen. It's a platform where people can essentially incentivize people to go out and do different kinds of actions. Nice. They think they gave out like $10,000 last year to somebody in South America who did the most kickflips ever in a minute. They broke the world record. No shit. Okay. That's awesome. Yeah. And so I'm experimenting at how could we use this platform to incentivize people to go out and do guerrilla journalism. Cool. And so the question of today is, do you feel like the internet is making it easier or harder to get access to the truth?"],[37,"That's a great question. I feel like it's a two-fold question, right? Like I believe that it is easier to get access to it, but then the truth kind of ebbs and flows in a way where people assume things are the truth and then it kind of gets blasted And then also it's like you get the real truth by, you know, going to the library and actually looking up the history that actually happened that you don't see on social media that, you know, gets, you know, sort of whitewashed and everything as well. Yeah, I think right now truth is kind of subjective in a weird way, so the internet does offer you your truth if you're looking for it, but it also can offer you the more objective truth, but you just have to go dig a little deeper and find sources that are actually high quality and do their research and not or not, just like some Reddit page."],[96,"Do you have a favorite subreddit? Favorite subreddit? I play in a lot of Red Dead Redemption so I'm doing Red Dead Redemption 2 subreddit, they're showing me all the secrets. Okay, that's good truth That's a good one I just got back into old school RuneScape OSRS subreddit's great and then, I don't know just a bunch of woodworking stuff and everything too. Okay, and so that's kind of what I think is interesting, right that we can start to aggregate truth together or like create this spaces for collective sense making like subreddits like do we agree do we not agree right yeah kind of creates a space for discourse and so I'm curious what do you what do you think of the state of discourse it's it's insane man especially with the prevalence of social media no like no buddy can be right you know even if it's like whether it's actual facts and everything there will always be somebody arguing that it's just not true"],[157,"and and discourse is great to have because it's just opposing opinions and things right but when it's actually historical facts you it's it's true or it's not and I feel like with how discourse is nowadays it's like you either believe what I believe or you can just get the hell out of here and I'll just attack you and it's just it's so I don't know polarized and it's just awful. Yeah, it doesn't really seem like discourse is really used to communicate your understanding to another person. It's more about trying to score points most of the time. Reddit and the internet have kind of turned it into a likes, you know, upvotes kind of thing. And so people just say whatever gets likes."],[207,"Are you two from Denver? I'm from Maryland. I'm from Illinois. Okay But then I've been here for 10, 11 years already, so Okay Yeah, I'm from here now, you know Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying, I know what you're saying Yeah And so what do you two think about the state of Denver now And like how it's evolved over the last couple of years How long have you been here? I've been living in Denver probably like five years now Okay Boulder before that, but as far as it's changed It just feels like there's more homeless people on my block But that's just my block"],[242,"Why are there so many homeless people here? I mean, my block has a community coffee house where people can go and get coffee and food And so that's where a lot of people seem to congregate What's that called? I'm not exactly sure, honestly It's pretty cool, yeah, where is it at? 14th and Pearl If you need some food or some coffee, they got you But yeah, like, I don't know Well, Denver seems like the rest of the U.S. in that we're all struggling to eat and have a shelter over our heads, and it's not getting much better."],[281,"Yeah. No, I mean, I live kind of closer to like City Park and stuff like that. and I don't know, it's just, it's interesting to see, especially like we're on Colfax right now, right? So the development of everything on Colfax and you see a lot more homeless population here. For people, like I'm from Philly, like what's Colfax? Like when, what do people think of when they think of Colfax? Sketchy, dangerous, things like that. But with all the improvements that they're making, it should, you know, help with that. But then you kind of fall into the other side of gentrification and like property taxes will get more and everything across Denver especially but across Colorado is just becoming more expensive and and the more that people move here and stuff too it's like a desirable location so it's it's kind of tough right yeah that makes sense do you feel like uh you guys both moved here do you feel like people look at you as gentrifiers and how do you navigate that can you say that one time so people look at you as like gentrifiers like being white people moving here probably because I feel like no I like coming"],[345,"I've been here from like Illinois slash Chicago area and then moving here and then being, you know, I just got married. So we have a two household income and stuff like that. So we're able to afford more. But it's at the same time. It's like, okay, we can afford more. But then rent across the city is going up because people like me can afford more and things like that. And it's just like, it's just a never ending cycle of everything's becoming more expensive. And it's just awful."],[376,"I mean, yeah, probably I do make minimum wage in Denver, which is well-paid Cities, I believe now it's at 19 an hour which is news to me. Yeah"],[394,"I'm still paycheck to paycheck as far as like paying rent and paying Things are more expensive here to like the Philly yeah But I could definitely understand why somebody might consider me a gentrifier Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I do want to make, yeah, like on that note too, as you were saying, like things are like super expensive We were, we went to New York last year And we were, everybody's like, oh yeah, New York prices are insane and stuff too And we sat down at a restaurant and we're like, these are the exact same as Denver prices Which is insane, right? You think New York prices, like everything's overinflated, which it is"],[431,"and then you sit down at like a restaurant here and you're seeing the exact same type of prices. It's crazy for a much smaller city too. Extraordinarily smaller city for sure. Oh my God. Yeah, exactly. With not the same resources as New York City. Exactly. Yeah. It's a completely different ballgame. Yeah. That's cool. And then I'm curious, what do you guys think about AI? It's a tough question. I hate it personally because it does drain a lot of our resources, fresh water, all of that stuff, and especially causing electricity prices to increase like tenfold. I will say I'm a small team of one. I do marketing and stuff, so it is nice because I'm a team of one, but at the flip side, I'd rather not use it."],[477,"I just feel like it's either you adapt to using it or you fall behind, and it really kind of sucks because my moral sense is like, you know, it sucks, we shouldn't use it, we should hire real people, creative people to do the creative things. But it's just kind of dulling everybody, especially when you see kids growing up in this era, in high school and everything too, you know, just having ChatGPT do their homework, they're not learning and you're seeing the results of that happen."],[511,"Yeah, you know, I definitely don't use it in my, like, work, so I can kind of see it separated as being like a useful tool, but it does seem a little overhyped in some ways. Oh, you think it's overhyped? In some ways, you know, it's like a bubble in any sense, like Amazon, you didn't know Amazon was going to be Amazon when the internet bubble first happened, or Netflix, like we used to get Netflix in the mail, and now it's a totally different thing, so it's like, I'm sure AI will be useful in the future, we have no clue what that will look like. Currently"],[549,"And what do you think about crypto? We're in Donald Trump's crypto era Oh God I've made some money out of crypto But it's not something I would say Is like a consistent form of income Or something you should like Well it's down right now So you'd be doing very well Yeah So I wouldn't say it's consistent But it's something if you feel like You can throw a couple of bucks into I've done that and I've made money Oh yeah"],[577,"Great question It's backed by nothing Besides speculation Vibes, really Again, same thing with James Is like, I have some You know, not even like a full Bitcoin or whatever, because that's just insane But now, you know, it can drop from 120 grand to 60 Grand in like three days If it wanted to, and it's just not Stable, we should not be Backing anything behind it Besides like gold, which which is tangible, like actual tangible assets, but- What about inflation? Inflation, in what sense? In crypto or just overall? All fiat speculation though. I really, you know, I know what inflation is, but I don't, I'm not well versed in the whole,"],[629,"like the actual like definition and everything of it. And that's on me really of like not putting my, you know, time and effort into like learning all the ins and outs of it. So I really can't answer that unfortunately. No, it's all good. I started doing content and crypto actually. And so I came down here for East Denver. It was like the big crypto conference that happened like a week ago. Yeah. You know, and so I've been traveling the world going to crypto conferences, Ethereum conferences primarily. This is my third time here in Denver. My longest time around though, so it's been pretty sick. Like it's pretty fun to do these honestly. Yeah. And break out of my podcast"],[665,"background but like you want me to tell you what inflation is yeah it's like this premise right that these centralized organizations essentially right like the Fed can print as much money as they want in any country around the world they can print money like you say you work for minimum wage there's somebody somewhere they can print as many hours of your time as they want and when they do that it devalues your minimum wage job because now there's more money right and so it's like the premise that everything's getting more expensive but it's actually that all our dollars are getting like less valuable inflated but"],[693,"So our labor is not scaling. And so people envision Bitcoin as like the way to exit the economy so that you're not holding like devaluating paper. And so while many people say, oh, Bitcoin, like maybe the dollar went up, you know, and actually Bitcoin didn't move. Or maybe like when it goes, when Bitcoin goes up, the dollar is going down. Right. But I feel like for many people, they won't really understand that's what happened. Like if we were to see hyperinflation, I don't think most people would understand that like Bitcoin didn't go up, but the U.S. dollar collapsed until it was like, fuck, what do I do now?"],[722,"Yeah So, does that change your thoughts at all? It does a little bit, right? Like, again, we have no idea what the future holds. Like, you could have asked me like what ChatGPT was like back in like 2020, 2021 era, right? It's crazy that it was ChatGPT, right? Exactly And now what it is today I think it's like 2023 ChatGPT, at least that's when I encountered it Yeah, is when it became more mainstream, right? And then now it's like Never South Parked in an episode Yeah, exactly You watch the crypto one? Yeah, I just I just feel like I'm hopeful for all like the digital currencies and everything, too. But I would you know, I'm one of those people where I want to see actual tangible assets so that it doesn't like just, you know, because tomorrow we could wake up and crypto just drops off the face of the earth out of nowhere because it's really not backed by anything but investors throwing money into it. Everybody could pull out and be done. Right. Whereas like the US dollar is like backed by the gold."],[781,"gold standard and things like silver standard and things like that, too. The US dollar is not backed by anything. It's not? I thought it was backed by gold standard, no? No, not anymore. So that's one of the advantages of like Bitcoin is you cannot create any more of it. That's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a limited quality or quantity. And like, that's what we used to do with gold, but we don't anymore. And so like, it's made the dollar very speculative. However, just Bitcoin itself is extremely volatile and it can go from 100,000 to 60,000. within a month. And so it's less consistent, but still an option, I think, for long-term"],[818,"growth. You just have to be aware of the ebbs and flows. But I got to go eat something. Well, I appreciate you both. Yeah, thank you. Do you have any words for people under the age of nine? Any advice growing up in the age of AI? Use it less and focus on school. Listen Listen to your teachers. Listen to your parents. Get off of social media. You should not be on social media, but before you're a teenager, and especially as you're a teenager, I feel like it's just getting worse and worse and more detrimental to your health. yeah yeah socialize in person try not to get your socializing fix from AI or from just communicating with friends online go to go to parks go outside play basketball do stuff like that appreciate it guys yeah thank you so much yeah thank you guys"]]},{"id":"ivye_ajfodc","slug":"a-mirror-that-wouldnt-exist-if-we-werent-doing-it","title":"Maceo’s Boulder vlog","place":"Boulder","who":"Maceo","paras":[[2,"I don't know. Just reset. But it's Tuesday, March 10th. Yeah, I'm in Boulder, Colorado. Why am I in Boulder, Colorado, you ask? Yeah, that's where the vibes have taken me. Um, going to see Josh later. We had our second meeting today for IKYK. If you know, you know this DAO primitive governance stack enabling fundraising and different things like for me to put it all into words right now would be kind of a quite the undertaking. Quite Yeah, it'd be a lot of effort. Um, but the meeting was dope. I was glad Pablo came, Brad, um, Natalie, Timothy did an excellent job. I got to really hear from"],[46,"Brad and what their thoughts were. Um really nice to hear Timothy talk about right this is a governing a protocol a protocol that is underpinning right media production in different ways and allowing for like generative space a space for generative I guess incentive and uh alignment and agreement or coordination I don't really know what the best words are to use it but I'm honestly only getting more excited about it getting to talk to Pablo and hear about how he might want to use it for publishing things or getting to speak to Brad and about what their reservations or interests might be what draws them in"],[77,"what gives them pause um I think is dope. We got to see Brad got to ask some really good questions which I was happy about and I know he missed part of last week so it made sense that he had questions and you know that it was nice to be able to see him get those answered and I was really glad that he took time to ask them because I know like like Timothy speaks at like a very technical level and which is dope. I think it's it's honestly excellent to have someone that can think at that level, right? and like go into that space of abstraction."],[102,"Um, but then to still be able to have it land in terms I think it was nice and gave me some clarity that the best place to ask is like would people use this and really working with Crab this week, I'm excited to like create language which explains what the opportunity is, right? Um, and have Brad kind of help us frame, you know, what attracts him and how do we frame the opportunity or the value prop in a way that speaks to people and helps them get like, oh, wow, this is why I would use this. Um, and also getting to think more about like"],[128,"Timothy's watched me put off governance before Mr. Schwarzy Hatter and he's making sure tread I embrace governance from day one right now thinking about like if I were to put We Them Media or let's talk about ETH this podcast onto there what will we be having community members do like what would they get to do how do we distribute a token talking about a airdrop on either base optimism or Sepolia I'm like okay like let's let's experiment let's have fun like let's let's airdrop some tokens for sure and let's start to wonder like what decisions do we want to make together And I'm excited about this poix where it"],[163,"didn't happen thing. Um I think it's it's a dope it's a dope kind of tool and I haven't really seen it before and I think um honestly I just appreciate how much enthusiasm Kenny's been putting into me making these videos and it's cool to other people coming out of the woodwork to post some videos. So I um I'm just excited about this I guess opportunity to engage community while still doing things that feel authentic to me and not really having to worry about like am I doing this right? And I think I want to give people the space to make choices in like the DAO, but I want"],[191,"what I do to be separate from their choices in some capacity, right? Like I want to not feel like I'm giving away my own agency to create something, which is kind of how I felt at times in the past, but instead creating a space for us to I guess navigate those boundaries reasonably like, how you doing?"],[207,"Good. How are you? I'm doing well. Good. I um I is this like chalk in your back pocket for the dog? No. No. It's actually treats and"],[217,"baggies. Okay, I like that. I like that. You're a special dog. I um I was like chalk on the walk. Um but yeah, so I'm kind of excited to meet with with Z and Brian tomorrow. Maybe I'll invite Kenny too to honestly kind of speculate on like how can we like have the community input into prompts and how can we use the Discord or I don't really want to use Discord. How can we use like a Farcaster channel or a Discord as a way to kind of enable governance like that leverages tokens or use the Farcaster channel to enable governance like people can go on like"],[251,"the builder site or now style or blank space but I kind of want it to be like I want it to be super smooth right people put up content they shoot videos we think about how those videos relate to pertain to the community the brand the questions we're asking how do we create a like a flow of that like empowers us to sense make collectively while giving people more um input into the inquiries that we go on and like I don't know something that stood out to me before was like if we have money people in the community can say what kind of stuff we want to"],[281,"empower with more resources and so like I just want people to get out and start posting content and like I guess building presence in the community by like showcasing their voice and their approach and I think that this it's fun because it is practice right I think your 100th interview is going to be very different than your first interview your comfort level, your clarity, your own perspective, and how you want to approach, you know, defining your perspective or even highlighting somebody else's. Um, and so I think it's cool. I'm like, I'm out to do, you know, ideally I want to do 100 interviews before I leave here in Denver. So, we'll"],[315,"see if I hit that goal. I think right now I'm at about like 20 or something like that. Maybe 19 20. Um, that was last week. So, I'm thinking like do a few here in Boulder before I leave. um try and do like I don't know go out go out for a day and try and try and do like right 25 30 um and we just knock out big chunks that way um as opposed to try and disperse in in the evenings when I'm more free. It's been kind of a drag to do that to be honest. I think it'd be dope to just go"],[338,"out in Denver for a whole day and just be chatting to people. And it's cool driving out here to Boulder. My first time driving out here. Shout out Caleb for letting me drive his truck, the big F-150. Um, but I'm excited to kind of think about like how does the community inform the kinds of questions that we ask, the kind of incentives that we generate and like the kind of like like what are the kind of decisions we want to make together. I appreciate Swarthy Hatter making me think about that stuff from day one and think about how do I keep people engaged and create a ritual,"],[362,"right, which is actually participatory in a meaningful way and not like a performative way. And and yeah, I'm just kind of excited to have it be like a part of what We Them Media does. Like the community has something they can play with and co-create with, right? But I I kind of want it to almost be like the community and what the community does is like something that we as independent creators and the community can almost have like a back and forth with. How do we create like a discursive relationship between ourselves as independent creators and like this this entity which is like an emergent creation of us"],[393,"collectively? And how do we have it be like like it's always an ongoing back and forth between the collective and the individuals um through content and through incentives and through right decision-m uh but not in a way that like like says here community come be involved in my thing in like a way I don't like but more like what is a way that I can invite the community into what I am doing and how do I start to think about those questions and like get those questions are important and also like make it fun and even expansive like how does it put us on a different path"],[420,"right than if we weren't in that conversation in the first place. I don't know. It's just some thoughts. Um, but yeah, trying to do more building in public. I guess you all been seeing me running around doing these interviews. I feel like it's just cool to put myself out there and be trying to do this man on the street cuz it's definitely not what I'm historically comfortable with. And um Josh is going to walk around me later tonight and uh record me walking around asking some questions. So, I'm kind of excited about that. And yeah, just just feeling good. Appreciating where I'm at and getting to"],[451,"slow down here in Denver and Boulder and Colorado, right, in general without my car. Shout out to the car. RIP. But just appreciate that I get to slow down and start to ask these questions and appreciate the the journey. But I'm so excited about like these interviews and like thinking about how I can be a how can I aggregate people who are getting to do this kind of stuff and aggregate sentiment through doing it and start to have us ask questions and push the public inquiry and expand a knowledge graph per se right that reflects the perspectives of different people in different positions like you know"],[479,"socially etc status wise moneywise all these different things right um ethnically like in terms of lineages like how the way the ways we see the world are so you know many and I've always kind of had an interest in how do I start to create a perspective on where we're all collectively at given that we're all like individually in such different circumstances. You know, they might be similar and have similar uh qualities, right, or components or even the same components in some capacity, but like you know, the differentiation is always is always small and large and on a spectrum in all the different domains and all the different ways. So,"],[512,"I'm excited to start thinking about how this can just be like a a way for the world to start to see itself differently. How can we have this kind of content almost create a mirror that wouldn't exist if we weren't doing it? Um, I guess it's kind of what like AI inquiry input is all doing. Like we're all putting our billion thoughts, questions into that But like what's a public facing, you know, narrative, right? That's like truly reflective of where we're at, you know, and not just reflective of the messages which are funded to reach us. Um, but how can we have videos from places that"],[536,"don't even have power, you know, come online through a Starlink onchain and, you know, we can see and know what people actually think and feel and how they see what's going on and not be relying on people who have a stake in us not doing that. But we'll see how it all unfolds. But I'm just excited about the energy and the space that we're in and about IKYK and just getting to be with Brad and hear their perspectives on things and just like not taking for granted like I should ask for help. I should ask questions. I should be as appreciative as possible. These people are right"],[565,"here, right now. Um, and that counts for Swarthy as well, just getting to think about if I were to build a DAO or anything like that ever again, right? And I didn't really build a DA with a meeting right the first time. It's not a DAO. Um but there was a vision of a DAO which is yet to be realized where there's a community of people who own their economy and the incentives and the decision-making power and the opportunities to leverage those network effects are widespread and used in a multitude of ways you know from from community banking to funding public goods to you know leveraging for reach"],[593,"of media and content and narrative and owning narrative and funding narrative and narrative is a public good and news and information is a public good you know but I'm excited to just kind of dial back to you know how do we empower people to us all stay on the same page more. So, it's been cool walking around Denver and trying to figure that out. But, I'mma go eat something. Shout out to Isaac for buying me dinner. Appreciate you. Love you, bro. Thanks for watching my new podcast. Check out the first episode of We The with Isaac Kelly. You know, I told him, you know, I had to have the the white Jew"],[623,"guy on my first episode of We The not had to have the Bitcoin maxi on my first episode of Let's Talk ETH. If it's not a little bit uh contrarian, you know, it's not me. So peace everybody. Peace and love."]]},{"id":"juYSJnodVrM","slug":"a-hundred-interviews-and-why-denver-is-insulated","title":"100 interviews before leaving Denver, and building a global network","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"You're recording?"],[5,"Okay, I heard you, don't worry."],[10,"I respect the question. You hear that, Andrew?"],[16,"Honestly, I used to like I thought I've always overthought like editing getting my stuff out there So my goal is to do 100 interviews like this before I leave Denver like next Sunday And I've done like maybe I have like 29 videos up right now and we've done like maybe three tonight And I'm just trying to get a fuck ton up and like worry about editing later and like I want people to be like him when I'm leaving. I want him to be posting videos for New York I want him to be posting videos. We have a guy in Kenya shooting videos now I'm trying to get a friend in Ghana to do a guy in Nigeria"],[40,"And so I'm just trying to like get as many people out in the world doing it and then they worry about branding later But like get the momentum Yeah, thanks. Well, I thought one day we'll figure out the brand identity But right now I just wanted to be like more like community energy community energy"],[55,"Yeah, yeah, and I feel like right now I just don't want to even create the friction like I want to record I want to post the whole thing to YouTube I want to trim it to less than two minutes post it on Instagram and then like delete it off the SD card and like have a new one They're ready to go out So people go they can be like oh Denver hundred videos and they can just pick what they want. It's like a little catalog Proof of concepts, right? Oh, yeah, so Shannon and what Jake and Jake so are you two from here in Denver? Yeah, we are"],[84,"Okay, we're in California Okay, and so how do you see this compared to being there you grew up there? Yeah, so I was 18 Okay Yeah I don't know, it's not that much different since everyone from California fucking moved here Oh yeah Yeah Yeah I hear that, I hear that And you're from here in Denver, what part of Denver? I grew up in Littleton originally and now we live like East Colfax Okay, okay And how do you feel like Denver's changed over the course of your lifetime? It's just bigger man, like it's sprawled out all over the place There's a lot more people everywhere, so that's a big one, just bigger and denser"],[119,"What are the best parts and the worst parts? Best parts, worst parts Oh man, I don't know, traffic is going to be pretty rough and I don't know I think there's a big divide between like Denver and the rest of the state and I think that kind of creates some friction Say more about that So Denver is like a really kind of urbanite culture, you know it's got some pros and cons but the rest of the state's not that way much you know maybe some of the resort towns are pretty similar but like paint us a picture like what are the pros and cons for people who don't know anything about the Denver politics"],[155,"despair Colorado like politics disparities regional setups etc yeah I think so Denver is really I guess insulated so the people who live in Denver just kind of don't really consider the rest of the state in their politics the rest of the state is kind of rural really you know aside from the ski towns I've heard the watersheds kind of fucked here yeah yeah it's pretty fucked I mean there's just like no water this year especially but yeah there's always drought man so yeah I lived in Colorado Springs from 2011 to 2016 and then I lived in Fort Collins from 2016 to 2020 Denver compared to those areas is a completely different planet I think Fort Collins was really chill and then down in Colorado Springs it was I don't know rural-ish like a touch of it."],[208,"of Rural and a lot of conservative vibes and Christian, you know, good old military boys and things like that. Yeah. Foco is obviously a college town and then Denver is a crazy mix, man. Like, I mean, we're seeing all sorts of different variety of wildlife over here. It's very different. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I don't know. Does that answer your question? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Until there's this platform, it's called poidh. It's Pixar. It didn't happen. And essentially this guy, he's like, it's a platform. people can put up bounties to prove you did stuff in real life so this person last year they won like ten thousand dollars I think to do the most number"],[243,"of kickflips is like in a minute. I can't do that. Me either but somebody won right and it's pretty sick and so right now I'm using that as an incentive just putting up a hundred dollars a week and I'm getting community members through my network to like help match to get more kind of advocates and every week people who do content like this will get to essentially submit and potentially win money if people think an interview is interesting and the question this week is you feel I feel like the internet is good for us. Like, some people say it's spreading misinformation, other people say it's information. It's good for us, it's bad for us."],[272,"Good for us? Uh, wow. I mean, it's access to... I mean, you used to have to go to the goddamn library to, like, learn anything. You can look up on YouTube how to fix your car. Like, we're at a point where you could literally learn to do anything. It's been so good for the entire planet. With the fucking Starlink, too. You got all these different countries that can finally get a hold of the internet and learn a goddamn skill. The Internet is absolutely good for us, but I do see the downsides. There's parasocial interactions happening, cutting back on actual social interactions. People are having less sex. There's more access to porn and things like that. So in the long run, I think it's made more rapid the advancement in our technology across the globe. But on a personal level, it's probably hurt us a little."],[323,"So, I don't know, what do you think? It's a very solid take, yeah, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, the internet's what you make it, right? Like, it can be your greatest tool, you can learn anything you want And on the other hand, you can get sucked into, like, these weird voids where all you talk are in these echo chambers where everybody agrees with you and then it just, I don't know, you go crazy When you end up in an environment where you never hear anything but your own opinion your opinion gets more and more crazy So I think that is something the internet provides to people"],[355,"Yeah, seriously dude Is space even real, man? Yeah, so I don't know It just provides those spaces that makes people crazy But it's such a powerful tool at the same time You know, it is what you make it Okay, what about AI? AI, crypto, blockchain? Dude, I don't know enough about crypto and blockchain To really talk about it But I think it's a matter of time until AI fucks us AI is going to fuck us And I love talking to ChatGPT about my problems like it helped me get through Keto but yeah I think we're screwed yeah yeah what do you think is going to be the worst case scenario for AI well you're just not going to know what's real anymore you will that and like I think it's going to we already have issues with the ultra rich like consolidating all the wealth and power right and so who's going to benefit from AI probably them you know who controls the servers who makes the money off of that not us"],[411,"it's gonna be them. I was literally asking AI its opinion about its own water consumption and if it was gonna fuck us over or not. I mean mostly water consumption is like our closed-loop system so that's a little overhyped. I mean it's it's evolving into that but like it started out and I mean was it California that ran out of water because of it in some areas they like blasted through a fucking lake or something yeah it was a big concern for a second but they're like shifting into the closed-loop systems, like you said, instead of the evaporative ones. Yeah, but we've already seen it."],[448,"The software developer realm has been decimated by them. Nobody can get a job in software development. Four years ago, that was... But now you can quad code or open-claw your way to wherever you want. Yeah, I guess. I mean, there's cool stuff with that. I don't know. I've made some code that I wouldn't have been able to make without ChatGPT. But I'm not trying to do that as a profession, either. It's going to take over Pilot Probably, eventually It's going to take over everything, eventually We'll have Iron Man in the chair Yeah, exactly, man There's going to be Iron Man with nobody in it That's going to be all of us"],[484,"We're all just going to be sitting in chairs with nothing to do Wally We'll be in fat in space with a planet covered in trash Yeah, we're three steps on the way there already So, what do you guys know about Like Crypto, Blockchain, Bitcoin, Ethereum Dude, I don't, yeah, I don't know much I know Blockchain is supposed to be something that keeps it from getting copied And other than that, I don't know You know, it values based on what people value it I don't know, I really don't know anything So, I don't have any answers But if you could ask one question to the Bitcoin, Crypto, Ethereum guys"],[518,"What would you ask them? What would be your point of clarity you'd want to have? Why? I thought at first it was something that we would switch over to on like a universal level so that you know we don't use euros we just use bitcoin we don't use dollars we just use bitcoin you know like yen's gone that kind of stuff but that's obviously not happening so again why why do you exist why do people value it i don't get it we we failed we didn't buy bitcoin in in 2018 or whatever, I have like a thousand Doge coins, but that's- I got GameStonk."],[561,"Yeah, not the person to ask, I don't know. I really don't know anything about it. That's okay. Well, I appreciate you asking the question. It's good to be curious. I have been doing stuff in the crypto space for a couple of years, so I just lied when I said that. And so I could answer your question. You want me to answer your question? Yeah, I'm actually curious. And so right, you brought up like the no dollars, no yen, no euros. That's a good point. Right, I think instead of it being that though it's like what if we moved away from like gold or silver as like the reserve currency or a lot of countries actually use like"],[589,"The US dollar or like the French franc and they don't use the franc in France anymore But there's still countries that have to use it's like the reserve currency And so what that means right is like how we used to have gold like our currency is backed by gold other countries Like they're just backed by the dollar a lot of places, but we print a lot of dollars like every year Right, and so it becomes like this thing where all their dollars are worth less all our dollars are worth less every time We Print Money To Go Build The AI Dome In Israel Or You Know To Go Build Out Other Things Other Places Whatever Thing We Decide To Do Ukraine Doesn't Matter Whatever We Fund That Isn't Like Public Goods In America Anything Really We Print Money For Just Kind Of Makes All The Money We Have Worth Less But You Know Minimum Wage Doesn't Scale And So The Premise Is Bitcoin Is Finite It's Only 21 Million And So The Point Is To Have Like A Currency Which That Will Never Happen With And So"],[636,"So When People Are Mining Bitcoin Are They Not Creating New Bitcoins? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but right now we just hit 20 million, like this past week actually. And we won't reach, the last 1 million will not be mine for the next 100 years at today's pace. And so like the dollar is going to exponentially, like continue to explode, right? And so you can consider that while many people look at Bitcoin like, oh wow, Bitcoin's going up. You could actually look at it as the US dollar is going down. Like why is the dollar down instead of asking why is Bitcoin up or down? Because it's just denominated in dollars. Like we're not looking at any other currency because we wouldn't really know how to reference it per se."],[667,"and so like it's not too late to buy Bitcoin the concern is like is it is like is is now a good or bad time to get out of the dollar well you can put it down as collateral as a last year actually yeah so like I think GameStop some actually buying Bitcoin too so you might not be that that bad off right I think they have a balance sheet with Bitcoin as a proxy let's go don't sell you You know, hold them, why not?"],[701,"I'm stuck in that time Alright, but we gotta go, thank you for entertaining us You guys have social medias you want to shout out, you're welcome too Nah, nah, I don't care Okay, hell yeah, well thanks so much Cool, yeah, have a good one You too That was fun Yeah, thank you Do you guys have like a handle or anything? I'd be curious to see where you guys go Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, We Them Media We Them Media? Yeah, yeah, yeah Is it on YouTube? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Be a subscriber, let's go Binge for 25 minutes and you'll make my dance We Them Media"],[730,"We Them We Them Oh you didn't stop the video?"]]},{"id":"Xtqu9LbClYU","slug":"after-the-denver-protest-project-2025-in-his-own-words","title":"On the ground at a Denver protest, talking Project 2025","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"It's awesome. It was a lot of people. It was a lot. I'm not sure. I haven't had a chance to get online yet to see. But it was big. I know when we started going, it might have been comparable to the largest we had. So it was good. It's awesome. Yeah. I think the message definitely got across. Especially I was watching. I seen TikTok later on in the day and it definitely seemed like it spread. Yeah. It was good. There's a lot of people out here paying attention to the important things happening in the world, in our country. Yeah. It's important. the underbinding of our country constitution, wanted to stand out actually in defense of"],[36,"the rule of law, of the not abuses of, you know, the wealthy against the rest of our country effectively, but I'll not jump ahead. Definitely. Because whatever you want to ask first. The day was good. Say it short. I'm already recording. Okay. Three, two, one. Okay. So for my first question, if you could just tell me your first and last name and spill it out."],[60,"Daniel Wheaton. I don't know, do I have to spell it out? That's a little weird for the internet I was just going to put a little lower third in for you Okay, it's Daniel, D-A-N-I-E-L, then W-H-E-A-D-O-N Okay, great, and okay, so for my first question, let me just ask you for today It was such a really big day for I think the entire country Just if you could recap for those who are unaware Because there's definitely some that are still sleeping Can you just maybe recap what happened today?"],[91,"Well, for about why the protests were happening Well, yeah"],[97,"As somebody who's a history nerd myself, in a world affairs, politics nerd, it's a pretty classic authoritarian coup to say it very simply, right it's erosion of the separation of powers, erosion of church and state, erosion of"],[115,"sorry, I didn't feel it, I thought there was something happening but erosion of effectively the rule of law, right, once we start devolving into the things, like if you read the Declaration of Independence and the qualms we had against King George by fabricating cases to disappear political opponents, right, like, ooh, hey doggy. Sorry. She's friendly, she's just energetic. Really strong. Yeah. Okay, Ash, all right. Calm it down. Stop flirting. Sorry about that. No, you're good. I love dogs. Just saying hello in dog manner. But, um, yeah, that, um, effectively, Wealthy are pillaging our country and eroding all the barriers to their power, in the way, right?"],[159,"So, in terms of defending the country or constitution, especially as, I don't want to abuse, but this is the time to use it, right? I don't want to be the boy who cries wolf, but the F word that people always throw around for a long time, the way fascism always works, you need to have the, usually the racial minority to escape that, right? Right, so first it's coming for the immigrants. We've already seen it starting to spread towards American citizens who happen to be brown, right? And they're already trying to be like, and also Haitian immigrants, Somalian people, code word, if you're black and on the street, you can be just swept up, right? Which to some degree our history is a very long practice of that, right? But re-sanctioning it in the way of, the problem is the immigrants coming to our country, not the wealthy rigging the system in their favor, right?"],[210,"Don't look at the actual corruption of the state, it's those other poor people who are actually coming here to fulfill the American dream, contribute to our economy, contribute to the melting pot that is America, that actually gives us strength, right? It's like, nope, it just goes back to just for white people, sort of mentality. And if you had to boil it down, what really is the biggest issue that's happening in our country right now? I'm going to say it super simply It's a takeover by Christian nationalist religious nutjobs That's the big takeover It's been the Heritage Foundation They wrote it in Project 2025 For the love of God, people"],[244,"It's not a conspiracy Project 2025 is not a conspiracy If you still think that somehow It's literally If you know the Heritage Foundation It's one of the most important think tanks For the conservative movement They wrote their playbook Trump has almost been following it 2 A.T. The whole thing is to make a Christian, and it's not real Christianity, right? I'm saying somebody myself would like to consider myself a follower of Christ as much as I'm able, right? That is not real Christianity. Definitely. Christianity doesn't say demonize your neighbor, lionize the wealthy, fuck over the poor to give more to the wealthy. That's not Christianity. But you know what that is? Shit, they used to control this capital in the 20s. It's white nationalism that masquerades as Christian nationalism, right? And the same movement here, it's not just happening in America."],[290,"All across Europe, there's a rise of the far right, the same traditional culture value, right? And for them, their first scapegoats are LGBT people, especially trans people and women, and then whatever minority group is handy, right? But it's the same playbook. It's the same far right Christian nationalist takeover, right? That's the biggest thing in our country, in Europe. The same thing's happened in Russia long ago. They're five plus years ahead. They've already said the LGBT movement is domestic terrorist extremist movement. They're illegal, so anybody can be accused of being gay and then hauled off the street for being a terrorist This is the sort of like abuses of the rule of law"],[328,"Our country was supposed to be founded against, right? That you can't just have somebody make up shit to criminalize people, you know? Supposed to be, we've never totally lived up to that dream, but hopefully we do want it And I just wanted to ask, is there any experience or a series of experience that has led up to your opinion?"],[349,"I mean, kind of being a nerd of history, I wouldn't agree to realize, like, oh, wait a second, in the 20s and 30s, as I said, the group that used to control the Colorado Capitol, right, there was this 100% Christian nationalist America First movement that wanted America First because they wanted peace with Hitler, and they called themselves the American fascisti in their own papers, it was the Klan, right, they were going up all the way through, they've never gone away, right, the civil rights movement, this is all a lash back to what happened to the So the Klan's taking over? The legacy of it. The same mentality. It's the same abuses of Christianity, the same really is just coded white nationalism, right? It's the same basic, this is all the stuff that's in Project 2025, right? We have to make this white Christian nation again. You know, some countries say it more directly, like the AFD in Germany, that just happens that Musk loves, that Vance loves too. The rest of Germany is like, hey, they're talking about re-migration, just like our own DHS is with ICE."],[410,"which is we're gonna even people who are in that case German-born or American-born citizens if they happen to be of a racial minority that has a definite ethnic origin They could be hauled off the street Put it in a boat or a train somewhere and disappear. They're like, hey, does this sound familiar? Wake up world. Well, this is exactly how it started before they've just changed the language a little bit Right we had the Klan and Nazi movement here in the 20s and 30s when it was rising in Europe It's rising in Europe again I would say this time the nexus is coming from Putin's playbook"],[444,"It's the Christian nationalist weaponization that's happened in Moscow And they're all in league with the same The AFD also loves They all, they can just look at their politics So for me, to say as a car goes It's studying like the bigger world patterns Of which groups are aligned with which groups Right, and they may not directly be like in cahoots But they're on the same ideological bus going the same direction And you start having people like Musk Appearing on like The AFD party's thing Being like, effectively Make Germany great again Definitely And it's tied into too, to say somebody who, I might consider myself"],[481,"I am a Christian But my mom's Jewish I have Jewish roots, right? Jesus did too, I don't think there should be a differentiation between them But the same shit's happening in Israel Right? The far right there Is also bastardizing Their religion And do you have any thoughts on Israel? I know it's a very controversial subject. It's the same, it's ultimately, as I've tried to point out to America, because I've learned out about their politics too, right? Because I have roots there, like way back, but not like any of my friends are Israeli. It seems like a very confusing topic, especially for myself. You know, one side you hear it's"],[513,"anti-Semitic and the other, they're controlling the whole, you know, United States. It's the same playbook whenever there's raw imperial power, whatever form it takes, weaponizing behind Christianity. They want to blame the Jews, right? So, for example, the settler crackpots doing race pogroms in the West Bank and when gossiped before, they were considered domestic terrorists until Bibi started to put them in his own cabinet, right? But the rest of Israel hates them, right? It would be the equivalent. It's kind of similar to you have legacy of Klan-like people here. Most of America is like, that's not cool anymore. Then Trump wants to put the Project 2025 Heritage Foundation people in his cabinet, right? It's the same pattern. And it ties into, like, ultimately, if you look into the thing, there's a thing called Christian Zionism, and they want to provoke the biblical end times. And for that, they've always supported the far right in Israel. Because they need Israel, and they can't have peace. Okay. Right? Because they need Israel to be at war with all the surrounding nations to bring about what they think they can bomb enough kids that they'll make Jesus come back, and they think they're going to go to heaven. Right?"],[585,"And because that's totally how it's gonna work out, right? And it's a death cult. It's a Christian death cult that's been backing the far-right fringe of Israel for a long time, right? Trying to make it make sure they can't have peace against the will of the rest of the country, right? I wouldn't definitely be less popular than Trump is here, right? Bibi was being mass protested on the streets. They had shut the country down in a mass general strike, trying to get him to try for his corruption case before all of a sudden October 7th just fell out of the sky and distracted from all of it and he's still kicking the can down the road Trump's still trying to tell even the president of Israel that you should pardon Bibi for his corruption trials it's all one big corrupt far-right bullshit bastardization of whatever sheepskin they can wear right and to say the same thing to separate I've always had sympathy for the Iranian people but it's like multiple truths at once the same thing's happening there too it's like Trump bad Bibi bad Ayatollah also"],[642,"so bad. Right? And, you know, so it's like having the same moral as an Iranian activist Afalo said, you know, we can support like, we can be against, I should say, we can be against authoritarian, pseudo-fascist police states in America and in Iran at the same time. Right? We can be against the takeover here and against the takeover in Israel at the same time, because he's been trying to erode the judiciary there. It's the same authoritarian, weaponizing the religion to use it as a sheepskin playbook, right? And I'd say in the middle of all that, a big part of it would tie into where I think the modern, a lot of that modern movement, it's between the Heritage Foundation here and the people who took over after the Soviet Union fell in the USSR, right?"],[692,"What became their using Christian nationalism in their own Eastern Orthodox way of demonizing gay trans people It's this weird ideology of like the Crusaders have to go invade and retake the Middle East The same shit that Hegseth has tattooed on his chest, right? That is the overarching thing that goes from Washington across Europe to Moscow And they need the Israeli far-right at war with the rest of the country to provoke their biblical end times, right? Right, and in the meantime, all the guards are profiting, and I don't think Trump or Putin actually care about Christianity So do you think the Rebbe and the Meshia, is that tied to what you're talking about?"],[733,"Duh There's this rabbi, they say, we see the Meshia, you know what I'm talking about, it's like Rebbe something When was that? When was this? There's just a lot of stickers, like I've seen my Orthodox friends, he tells me there's stickers around New York It's like this, like a rabbi who passed away. I feel like it's like, I can't think of what it's called. They do like the, they, I can't think of what it's called. They had one at my college. It's okay. I feel like if you didn't know what I'm talking about, it's okay. No, I mean, they have the same The right-wing"],[765,"Right-wing hyper-nationalism That weaponizes A religion to wear as a sheepskin to justify Its own bullshit is nothing unique To any set religion It's nothing unique to any set It doesn't even have to be religion You can say the same thing happened in the USSR with Stalin Using the sheepskin of Marxism To do a totally corrupt I would say almost, anyway, it's a tangent But the To say the big thing, to put back and the Russian activists who I've been following for a long time too, that's my Jewish side is Eastern European, Russian and Romanian, and they all point out that all this Christian stuff that Putin saying Trump here, it's all bullshit."],[809,"The real ideology is rampant corruption and destruction of any separation of power that can get in their way for their own wealth and power that they're addicted to. Well, for me to wrap it all up, is there any message you'd like to send out to the community? We should all be in this together, right? All of us, the same way the far right has a, they're all kind of in cahoots to drive all their nationalist bullshit everywhere. What about the left coming together, right? Those of us who care about human rights, those of us who care about basic human dignity, right? I do care about the rule of law that nobody, depending on how wealthy they are, should be exempt from, if they committed a crime, actually being held accountable, right? What about like, you know, the same idea that we should all be backing each other, right? And to have the same moral movements, we're like, to say, for example, I feel like on the left, if we had been listening to people on the left in Israel and people on the left in Iran, they have been trying to sound the war over"],[871,"We've had the alarm over this for a long time. Same thing with the left in Russia, who have mostly been kicked out of the country, right? But there's a lot of people who have been like, this is an authoritarian takeover, right? And unless we can get rid of the idea of this flag good, this flag bad, and start realizing the basic common human decency we all have with each other. And to be people who think that right makes might, not might makes right. That's like the core flip, right? The fascists think might makes right. If they can get away with it and force their will upon you, it makes it right."],[905,"I tend to think the other way. I would tend to think that aligns with actually biblical teachings. I would think that aligns with actual liberal values. To be like, no, what's morally right? That's what makes might. And the goal shouldn't be the might. The goal should just be trying to respect our fellow human beings. And to stand up when people are suffering under the boot of oppression to try to have some heart for them. right and realize the same that just because we're not yet being maybe targeted by ICE doesn't mean that like people who are shouldn't be you know cared for right and I don't know so we could"],[940,"all come together like that'd be great because the right wing the fascists have all come together already definitely all right well thank you so much for talking to us I appreciate it can I say one more thing you seem like a really good person to speak about this this thing you said a lot of people just say like propaganda the project whatever whatever can you like say what that is like give It was just a book that, it was their, like, so after the first Trump administration, they kind of didn't expect to win, from my understanding of it, and it was kind of a hodgepodge, then afterwards, those same, the actual people in the shadows, right, which is not some shady cabal of Jewish people, which is what they always try to say, the shady cabal of Heritage Foundation, white nationalists, Christian bastardizing people, all went, oh, how do we actually, the mandate for leadership, if Trump wins again,"],[988,"in 2020, or 2024, how do we in 2025 start enacting an effectively white Christian nationalist takeover of our country? And if you look at it, you can just look it up. Russell Vought, Stephen Miller, all of these people are a part of the Heritage Foundation, right? So it's a playbook to effectively dismantle America from within, the democracy, and install a theocracy in their version of Christianity, Which is like the demonize your neighbor, lionize the wealthy, right? Fuck over the poor. That's sort of the Christianity, right? But it's the same thing. And to say the way I saw some ideological connections, a big part of it too is also privatize everything, right?"],[1031,"So all the wealthy people can try to profit off of it all. And it's very similar in a longer scale or shorter scale sense to what happened in Russia once the Soviet Union fell. And to say, I'm not a fan of the Soviet Union either, right? All oppressive police states. I'm against oppressive police states. Gotta be against that too. But what took over just because one thing is bad, if you throw that out the window doesn't mean the next thing's gonna be better. It could be worse, right? And in Russia it was the same thing. You took shock therapy. That's what they did there, where everything got mass privatized."],[1063,"It led to a bunch of couple people gaining power. And then they solidified their power, crushed the competition, and killed any experiment with democracy and a fair-functioning capitalist economy and they've got the corrupt oligarchy that wears the sheepskin of Christianity. And that's the same thing they're trying to do here with Project 2025, just at the American lens. Which is ridiculous, because when you think about it, it's like freedom of religion. Freedom of religion? Is it?"],[1092,"There's a good, in my mind, if somebody who is an actual Christian who happens to be a politician, too, there's a guy named James Tallarico in Texas, and he talks about he says it better than I can do justice but why being a Christian it's so important to keep church and state separated because else once you have is to protect the state and to protect the church from corruption because once you get a bunch of like Christian nationalists telling you that's the only way to worship Jesus there goes all I just seen an article JD Vance said that UFOs are being piloted by demons I said I don't even know what that means"],[1131,"that is the core that is the most out of pop what are we talking about at this yeah that's it's the same to say whatever they can to dog whistle to scare they're very superstitious things right it's the same stuff that who's been saying they're fighting Satanism in Ukraine yeah it's the same playbook right they need to protect Christians and Ukrainians are killing Christians it's like wait a second you can use our Christians of whom's the one bombing them all Christmas right an accusation is confession is a big thing to see the"],[1172,"I'm sure some people do, but for the majority, I don't think we do. Exactly. I would say most Christians, I would hope, would think that too. You know, to say, so that, right, exactly, separation of church and state, freedom of religion is important so the state doesn't start telling you how to worship, right? So it's important to preserve religion, too. It's not just about preserving the state. It's not just about giving them a very powerful sheepskin. They have always warned since time immemorial. It's also about preserving the church of whatever church or temple or mosque or whatever it is from being"],[1233,"It's terrible I think Trump and the Christian Nationalists right here have a lot more in common with the Ayatollah and the IRGC than anything else."],[1243,"I thought it was like some bat brakes What was that? Just enthusiasm! Car crash For protecting democracy and human dignity Oh yeah Alright Sweet Good to see you there, man Thank you so much, thanks for the interview Of course, of course Thank you for"]]},{"id":"CgFdClu5uow","slug":"channel-5-fans-on-what-andrew-callaghan-does-right","title":"Channel 5 fans on what makes Andrew Callaghan work","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[null,"couple weeks and I'm just here because I fucking admire Andrew I want him to notice what I'm doing so I'm like we're gonna talk to Andrew outside oh oh oh the Andrew's outside no no we're talking he's inside but we want him to pay attention right you get me yeah yeah I get you he's like oh shit these are my fans talking about me like I got you Andrew I got you I want you I I'm waiting for somebody who has a lot more to say I'm sure that's okay you're still important who you think you are can I can I put this on to you oh sure I'm glad you know what's your name I'm Priscilla"],[null,"Brasila is nice to me. That's a beautiful name. Thank you. What's your name? Masayo. Masayo. Yeah. I'm Tim. Masayo. Yeah, shout out to Tim. Tim. What up, Tim? Tell that to him. This nigga's funny. What's up, Tim? I'm Hattie Silla on Instagram. Fuck yeah, I appreciate you shouting yourself out. So what do you know about Channel 5? They put out really good content. What defines good? What defines good? You know, critical and funny to the point, well articulated. very current, right? You want to be topical? Absolutely. Relevant. Relevant. That's the word. I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm with you. Don't worry. No, no."],[null,"I can see that you're with me here. Hell yeah. And so how did you first find out about Andrew and Channel 5? That's a good question. I know about a lot of these things because of my husband. He's really plugged into this type shit. I looked up on on Claude AI what are questions I should ask and something the Claude was saying was that it's mostly men who follow who follow Andrew and channel 5 and then their partners often has find out it's like someone's review of attending one of the events yeah yeah I brought him here because I knew that he liked it oh that's sweet I love that yeah yeah are you from here in Denver I live here"],[null,"okay you from here originally no where you from originally I'm a fifth generation Texan fifth generation Texans y'all been around been around Yeah. Okay. Are there any stories between Texas or here in Denver that you feel like aren't getting enough coverage or aren't being done justice that somebody like Andrea should be servicing to the critical consciousness of an audience such as this? Did you get that question? No, I got you. I got you. I don't talk too fast, Marianne. I'm just kidding. Yeah, Marianne. What do you even know? Marianne, you know a lot. Shout out to you. I'm sure she does because she's a woman."],[null,"Happy ... It's Women's History Month? Is that what month it is? It's April now. It's Women's History every month. Happy Belated Women's History Month. Oh, every month. Okay, let's go. Yeah, every month. You know, I'm just surface level right now. So if I can think of something that's undercovered. It's a stream of consciousness. Don't stress, like, I don't know enough. You know enough. That's the reason I'm asking you. I know enough. No, I know enough. I don't know about this. Pick one thing. Pick one thing. What stands out to you as not getting enough coverage in the world right now? Cloud AI didn't have some good..."],[null,"No, no, no. I'm here to ask the people, right? I've been doing this project. We've been giving out $100 a week for people who go out and ask the question of the week that we're doing. It's like on this crypto platform. We've had people, like I said, around the world participate. And so every week we ask a question. What's a question you would ask people around the world? No pressure. pressure? No, I'm all pressure on the spot. I guess like if you had unlimited resources, what would you create? You know, there's, there is this like, um, philosophy or hypothesis that I like to follow. That's the balance of consumption versus creation. Uh, so the more people create,"],[null,"the more we put in balance that dichotomy. And we want people to be creating more than we're consuming because creation comes from a really special place. Obviously, women have the anatomy to create life, but the same energetic center resides in all of us, no matter what kind of anatomy you have or identify with. No, shout out to you. That's a good take. That's a good take. See? I know you had everything we needed. There's something. Do you see what's going on in the world right now? He is my world right now. Oh, you're the world right now. What's up? And you pull up in real time."],[null,"All gas, no brakes. All gas, no brakes. Real time. Action. Let's go. What's up? How are you doing? This is my man. We're doing an interview. This is Maceo and this is Tim. What's up, guys? Yeah. What's up? How are you guys? What's your name? I'm Casey. Casey? Hell yeah. Tell me your name again. Priscilla. Priscilla. Hell yeah. Casey and Priscilla. So I heard you're the one, you're the big fan. So how did you first find out about Andrew? Oh, man, I was looking for a good independent journalist, and my buddy just couldn't stop talking about him. And then I saw him absolutely mong clavicular,"],[null,"and I just had to come here and see the show. I had to. What did you think about that, the Clav episode? I mean, it was exactly the right way to do it. It was professional. It was respectful. He asked the right questions, and he let the man hang himself with his own rope. It was beautiful. It was art. It was art. For people who don't know who Clav is, who's Clav? Oh boy, he's the look-maxing guy, I think. He does the cheekbones and he's all like, I gotta be all muscular and TRT'd up. And he's just a soulless, empty vessel of good looks. And we saw him for what he was, and that's why I appreciate Andrew."],[null,"Oh yeah, so I'm an aspiring journalist like Andrew. What's something that you would say he does really well that I should keep in mind? He keeps his cool. He keeps his cool for the full hour. He never gets flat. Like even remember we saw Jonathan Swan get flustered by Trump's bizarre answers, right? He's iconic for his meme for that. I've never seen Andrew do it Keeps his cool. Yeah, if you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask him? Oh No Why? That's it. Why what are we doing? Tell them that is human nature But no, why what? Why aren't we doing better as a species?"],[null,"That's the question I want answered, generally. So if he can get to the bottom of that, I would love him forever. Let's go. No, no, I'm going to do it. Screw you, Andrew. Yes, please. Gigatech, I like that. Why are we like this as humans? Why aren't we doing better? Oh, yeah. Any other message for Andrew as a fan? Keep doing what you're doing, brother. Thank you so much. Why do you appreciate it? Dude, it's not easy. If everyone could do it, we all would do it. But he can and he does, and he chooses to do it. And, you know, like, I like to think that I can do it, but I can't, and this man does it for me."],[null,"Thank you. Thanks for being my avatar. You want to interview somebody out here right now? You could do it. Oh, God, no thank you. I'm about 27 rips deep on this guy right here, so. It's a mental blocker, but I hear you. I hear it, man. You're not locked in. Thank you so much. No, it's so nice to meet you, man. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, take care. Have fun. Hey, I'm Snack. I didn't forget. Respecting personal space, man. Enjoy yourself. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Could I ask you guys a couple questions before you guys head inside? Yeah, sure. Yes. Fuck yeah. My name is Maceo and I'm out here shooting for my YouTube page, We Them Media."],[null,"Can I hand one of you the mic? You can pass it around. Sure. So how did you guys first find out about Channel 5 or Andrew? I watched All Gas No Brakes. Oh, an OG fan. Let's go. I don't name it. Other people name it. Yeah. I haven't seen it in a hot minute, I'll be honest, but yeah, that's how. Okay. What All Gas No Brakes content do you remember? I was just telling them- He's coming back into circulation. Really, like, I like learning about different subcultures and different unusual types of people who are living their life their own way. And he had a really open way of, like, finding those people"],[null,"and figuring out, you know, what made them tick. And I really like that. Fuck yeah. He goes and gets their perspective in real time. Yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah. You can come in. You can come in. It's all good. It's all good. What about you? I feel like I didn't see all guests on breaks, but I've definitely been following online for a while. So it's on Instagram, but kind of catch those clips and then go for the full videos and things like that Oh, yeah. What about you man? I don't know anything So are you feeling excited you feeling nervous you feeling like from Iceland Trump's trying to buy that place, right?"],[null,"Hell yeah, hell yeah, and so do you guys have anything you would say to Andrew Journalism is pretty sick. Been a fan for a while, and he has a really cool way of getting ground reporting, and it's really cool. So, Ray, I'm an aspiring journalist, man on the street right now here in Denver. Sorry. What's something that you would say he does really well that somebody like me should take note of? He found his niche thing, but he just keeps pulling for the thread. He keeps following up a story. You know, so I feel like just that drive to keep like looking for the next facts and get a better understanding of the situation"],[null,"Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah I love when Andrew goes up to some really kooky person and he just says like how are you and then the person Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's expensive. He just did it. Hell yeah, hell yeah. He opens the door. No, no, ask the next question. You're the interviewer now. You got it. You're holding it. You're running it. Declined. Sorry. But yeah, man, what's your take? You were saying earlier. He gets the details down. You see every side, and he's very down the middle. He shows opinions, but not a crazy opinion. be a journalist. You have to see everybody's side. I don't know."],[null,"Look down the middle. Have some crazy takes. Have some hot takes. Have some good takes. You have to engage. Do you have a favorite video of his that you're like, wow, this is like peak, peak, peak? No. I like them all. I got one. I was going to say his Greyhound video was super interesting. The bus? The racing? No, the Greyhound racing. Dog racing. Yeah, he covered Greyhound racing in West Virginia, I think. You're a greyhound now. You're the greyhound. He adopted a greyhound after that. So, but I was going to say, like, he's, during that interview, he talked, or, like, during that episode, he talked about how, like, he tries to be very unbiased, but eventually you start, you start to get biased anyway."],[null,"Just, like, talking to those people who you like to talk to more. But I thought that was super interesting. But he also just, the bottom half of that, like, the last bit of that interview, he just talked to some random dude at the cast station. for like five minutes and just gets the craziest, most genuine take, not even about greyhounds or anything at all. And those hidden gems that he finds and the people he talks to is just so cool. And I think he does a great job at that. I don't know. He's... That's my shit. Can I ask you one more question? If you could ask people"],[null,"around the world one question, what would you ask them? Well, am I going to get answers to it or is this just a question to pose a thought? We have people in India, Nigeria, Kenya, and Uganda we went on asking questions the last couple weeks. Like doing this video journalism shit. What's your dream? What's your dream? Live your dream. What is your dream? And then picture it and live it. That's my question. Okay, sick. I'd say... You want the answer? Follow We Them Media. Yeah. I don't know, man. Fuck. Stream of consciousness. Run. You got to go anyway. Three, two, one, go. What makes you happy?"],[null,"Boom. Enjoy the show, guys. Yeah, you too, man. These guys want to get interviewed. You want to get interviewed? Yo, bro. Yo, what is this? This is for my YouTube page, We Them Media. Did you buy a ticket? Yeah, I got tickets for two friends, too. We're about to be in here. Don't stress. Yo, bro. Airdrop me a copy of your ticket. We can see if it works. I'm not above it, bro. We just tried to get a ladder. We brought a ladder. That shit did not work. Niggas are funny. Bro, Joe is up here, bro. Joe is bullshitting. What's up to do? Michael's bullshitting."],[null,"He's really the feds right here. This nigga's the feds. Oh, you got the glasses on, too? You been shooting content out here? Yeah, but like, you know what I'm saying? Wait, is it noticeable? I mean, I know what it looks like so You guys both got them damn. I didn't you know what it looks like. I mean, I know what it looks like oblivious See that's what it's about though, that's what it's about what it's about So how do you guys find out about channel 5 you guys stay right here right here right here who has to hold it? Any meeting I need my be wagging off a lot"],[null,"I mean he's like huh no not him but like I just be whacking off cuz you know he'd be like posting weird shit so but anyways you like how you recording oh that's it that's just mom it's like actually good quality yeah excellent okay so how did you guys find out about channel 5 how do you find out about channel 5 you guys are long I'm being dead as I don't right here you right here are you with me? It's been like, I don't know, like two years ago I saw the channel. I kind of started a YouTube channel with my homeboy because of this white nigga."],[null,"Okay, shout out to the white niggas out here doing real shit. Okay, so talk about your YouTube. Real shit, real shit. What you see is what you get, you know what I'm saying? I really don't know. I'm really just trying to make some money out here. You say you're inspired by him. I'm trying to get Andrew to peep my shit. So talk your shit, talk your shit. Well, I'm a gay. I threw a U-Haul party out here like two weeks ago. You know what I'm saying? It was kind of lit. It was literally like a block party U-Haul. Bitches were getting twerked on and other niggas were getting twerked on by other bitches and shit. It was kind of crazy."],[null,"You didn't get twerked on? Well, hey, I mean, I did get flack. I gave it a little bit, but it's not about me. You know what I'm saying? It's all about the game. A man to the people! Amen to that. But it is a little chilly out here. Okay, okay. If you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? Um, fuck. Why? Why is it so hard out here to make money and keep it? I don't know. Fuck. talking about inflation. God, shit. One question for the world? You got a couple. Go ahead, run them. What's the statement? A statement?"],[null,"A statement is, you know, make your money, stay in school, follow your heart and shit, pause. That sounded kind of crazy. All right, handle the mic. All right, I'm all good. He killed it, though. Go ahead, bro. Question for the world. What do I do? Question for the world. You have questions for the world? So I have to ask the world a question? If people around the world were going to answer your question, people in 18 different countries, what would your question be? You want global perspectives on something, like it's AI. What do you want to know? You okay? I like that. That's a good question."],[null,"No, I'm just like, what's wrong, bro? How do elephants breathe? This guy gets it. Appreciate you, man. I don't know honestly. Air drop? Dude, air drop the ticket for you. Oh yeah, bro, I told you I got you. I'm not really stressed about that. I just gotta get inside before I give it to you because what if I get locked outside? No, no, no, no. We're gonna let you go first. I'm just telling you my mentality. I'm not stressed about you, don't worry. Hey, wait, wait, wait. So how you doing? You want air drop me or you doing? All right, all right. Now you gotta give me one real question for the world."],[null,"You just came out of character. What you mean? A real question for the world. You talk about the elephants. That's real, bro. Another question, another question, another question. Do you know how an elephant breathes? Out of ass cheeks, I don't know, I don't know. That would be interesting, bro. Just give me another question. I'm going to eardrop you tickets, huh? A good question? See, you understand what I'm looking for. A genuine question, right? I have people who have been going out over the last couple weeks in Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda, and India asking questions. Right? Competing for a hundred bucks a week. And I'm going to put up a new question next week."],[null,"Wait, I have another question. What the fuck? Come on, I don't know what. A hundred dollars? Are you trying to get in, bro? It's in my link tree. is it bigger than black and white or is it bigger than the dollar free game I like that one I like that one you didn't see this you just you just you just scaled you know in terms of video quality people on my phone my on my shit I'm not gonna lie to you I stole that from my homeless man I was I actually started a penis enlargement company and yes it gave me that quote shout out to"],[null,"people who credit the real ones big penis incorporated yeah it was tiny the Titan, Size Revive, that was the name of it. Okay, fuck yeah. You guys wanna shout out your socials or anything like that? No, I'm good. Lowkey Genius. Oh yeah, we're out here. Thank you very much, Tim. Good luck finding that shit. This is Tim. What's up, what's up Tim? Yeah, I went out there. Hey, see you."]]},{"id":"b-adB_nX8ak","slug":"pundits-versus-ground-reporting-channel-5-queue","title":"Channel 5 fans on pundits and ground reporting","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[null,"Yeah now it's just like the third year. No I didn't put it in. Yeah the third year, it's my third year here. And things are finally starting to like... Yeah. Alright, what are we doing? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. God bless. What'd you say? I put these in my pocket. I said that was fucked. I know it sounded like shit. like shit. Let's leave them alone. Your glasses. Oh my God. Good luck getting in man. Appreciate it. what time is it I don't know. Can you give me a ticket? If they're not coming? I think they are coming, I don't know."],[null,"Let's call them and see if they are. They'll be here by 7.30 if they just texted me. I just want to go. Yeah, I get that. Let's come over here. Do you want me to do it? Huh? Do you want me to do it? Yeah, yeah, hold on. Sick. What's up guys? Can I ask you a couple questions before you guys head inside? No. No, it's okay. It's about to start. Yeah, some people are rushing right to get inside. What's up? Could I ask you a question before you head inside, bro? Yeah, yeah, see. It's gonna be a lot of that. Yeah, damn. I guess we're kinda fucked, huh?"],[null,"Well, I feel like what we got was pretty... I'm pretty content. Yeah, get the cool shots. Ooh. This guy. This guy says the right stuff. Like, what would I go see? Miguel? After Miguel? People had a lot to say. This guy's trying to speed eat. Are you excited? Yes. Yes. Hell yeah. Oh, okay, great. Yes. Me trying shit in the last minute. Oh, my gosh. How we doing? How you guys doing? You guys are, like, eating ice cream. But can I ask you a question or two before you guys head inside? Sure. Everybody else is in a rush. I'm like, all right. You guys look like you're chilling."],[null,"Full pun intended. Yeah, absolutely. So we'll enjoy out here. Hell yeah. So what brings you guys out tonight? I passed a red line ticket to Foros, which you couldn't come. Here he is. We're also big fans. This guy's doing important work. Okay, what makes it important? A lot of people are in a lot of shit right now that is very confusing and hard for people to understand. And I think when the pundits are trying to tell people what's going on, people don't get it as much. And I think he's speaking a language that people really relate to. So I said that yeah people like Andrew should really be out there telling people what is going on a little bit more"],[null,"Oh, yeah, people should use the word pundits. Is that what you said? Yeah, what's a pundit? Talking heads who kind of have an opinion that they want us to also have I feel like a pundit is a person the media who's kind of trying to tell you what's going on instead of Well tell you how to think about what's going on instead of tell you what is happening and let you form your own opinion I don't really respect that so yeah Like it's more on the ground approach Very well said. Very well said. Oh yeah. Your favorite video? Uh, we're huge Phish fans. I love the Phish Slap video."],[null,"Okay, that's it. Yeah, definitely that one. Fuck yeah. What about yourself? What do you like about this video? I actually don't know the guy that much, so I'm interested to hear what he has to say tonight. Okay. What are your first impressions? Have you seen anything? I haven't seen anything, so... Oh, so this is your first impression? This is my first impression. Alright, I'm gonna try and catch you afterwards and get your post-first impression. Alright. Hell yeah. Are you guys from here in Denver? Yeah. Love them. Okay. That's why we're chilling with you guys here. Do you feel like there's a story in Denver Andrew should be telling that he's not telling?"],[null,"Or is there an opportunity for him? I mean, I think that the houses crisis has hit Denver pretty hard. It obviously kind of has a reputation. I think that the city's not really helping as much as they should, and there's a lot of NIMBYs who are kind of influencing how things are working around here. I also think, fuck Polis. Like, fucking big time. Who's that? I don't know who that is. Governor Polis, he's the governor of the state. Denver, Colorado. Yeah, and he is just... Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now we're in a hurry. We gotta go. No, I hear it, but thank you. I appreciate it."],[null,"Paulus. You want to shout out your socials or anything? I'm not super active, but CalMcClay, C-A-L-M-C-B-L-A-Y. Hell yeah. And you have a question you would ask people around the world? Um... What would you really be giving up if you led with love instead of fear? You know? Like, it's not that hard. Fuck yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. Enjoy the show. What's your name, man? Maceo. Maceo. Calvin, man. Oh, yeah. Nice to meet you. What's your handles? We Them Media. We Them Media. On YouTube. Check us out, man. Enjoy the show. I appreciate you, Tim. How was that? It was awesome. Let's go. He said it was awesome."],[null,"Fuck yeah. Let's go back here. These people got to wait in line anyway. Let's get them. How you doing? How are you? I'm well. Can I ask you a question on the camera? No, I work here so I can't be on camera. Okay, that's a good answer. Sorry. I'm unoffended. You don't have to say sorry. What's up, guys? I'm asking people some questions outside the show. Could I ask you all a question or two before you guys head inside? Sure. Let's go. Hell yes. Yes. So my name is Maseo and I'm here with We Them Media. And I've been watching Channel 5 for a couple of years"],[null,"and I've been doing content in the crypto space, but I'm trying to break out of that and use my networking crypto to kind of get people around the world participating in like grassroots journalism type shit. So we've been giving out 100 bucks a week to people who go out and shoot videos. Last week's question was, what's the most important global issue today? We had people submit from India, Nigeria and Kenya. And this week we're asking people what's something that made them smile this week. So I'd love to start with that question. Who wants to go first? On Monday, I went to an FKA Twigs concert."],[null,"It was a good time. Fuck yeah. Man of the culture. I like that. You're outside. What about yourself, man? It's all mine. Go for it. You can say it. I was going to say the same thing, but it was also my birthday. Oh, so double down. Yeah, how was it? It was good. Good week. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. What about yourself? The Artemis launch. It was really cool. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. We're going around the moon. Yeah. You want to jump in? Yeah. I got a copy here. The Artemis launch. Okay, what's exciting to you about the Artemis launch? We're going back to the moon since like 50 years ago."],[null,"Do you think the first one was real? No. You said going back, so I had to ask. I like that. Do you feel like it's a distraction? What is a distraction? Like this stuff with the moon. I'm like, is that a distraction? People say it's a leading question. I'm not a real journalist. Nah, I don't think so. I think it's a real landing. Hell yeah, hell yeah. And what about yourself? Something that made you smile this week? It was my boy's birthday. I like that. Celebrating the guy. Celebrating the guy. And so how long have you all been following Channel 5 and Andrew Callaghan? Years."],[null,"Yeah? Can I hand you the mic? Yeah, years. Long time. Okay. And what do you like about him? I like that he engages different communities, like a bunch of different communities, everyone. And what do you think is a benefit of that? I like that take. Yeah, he's getting different perspectives that you might not see in your own city. so you can really see around the country and the world what's going on. Are you from here in Denver? I'm from Indiana. Okay. Yeah, but I live in Denver. How long have you been here? Three years. Okay. Is there a story in here or in Indiana that you feel like somebody like Andrew should be covering"],[null,"that's not getting enough visibility but is, like, really a pertinent problem? Oh, gosh. I'm not really sure. I'd have to think about that. I can't think off the top of my head. That's okay. What about you guys? Do you guys have any things you feel like are the kind of stories Andrew should be covering in America? Personally, I find a lot of stuff through it. That kind of thing. So, I'm not that tapped in. Okay. And so that's one of your favorite parts about Andrew is that he's like surfacing information you said? Yeah, he can expose stuff I'm not really aware of. What's like a standout thing you were exposed to by him?"],[null,"Recently, we're doing the stuff on the Irish language stuff. And I found out about it because he was working with a group I like called Kneecap. Yeah, fuck with Kneecap. I saw their movie on a plane like last year. I was like, these guys are sick. I watched that movie about the same time that that started coming out. So I found out about all this. I didn't know what was going on. Hell yeah. I had no idea. That's a sick movie. Have you seen the group live? Not yet. Not yet. I want to. I like that. I heard they have like UBI for artists in Ireland like this week."],[null,"Did you know that? No. Isn't that insane? They get like over a thousand bucks a week or a month. I think that shit could be wrong. They start to like nine minutes. All right, fuck yeah. Are there any questions you guys would have for Andrew or anything you'd like to say to him? I'm excited for the show. It's going to be awesome. Oh, yeah. It's going to be a good time. Yeah, we're excited. We're going to be stoked. And if you guys could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? I think it's interesting to get different people's perspective on what they think of Americans right now."],[null,"Oh, that's a good take, Kenny. That's a good take. I like that. What do you think about Americans in America right now? Yeah. A one question. You guys got to follow that up. How are we doing? No way. I can't tell. You double down on it. I like that. You're leading with good takes. Do you want to shout out your name? I'm Elma. Hell yeah. I'm Ian. I'm Jake. Fuck yeah. And this is with We Them Media. Thank you guys so much. Cheers. Enjoy the show. I like that. How are you guys doing? I'm doing some interviews ahead of the show. Could I ask you all some questions? Would you be open?"],[null,"Fuck yeah, so how do you guys find out can I hand you the mic? Yeah. Oh, yeah How did you guys first find out about channel 5 or Andrew Callaghan? YouTube okay, was it you know like like it was in your feed or somebody sent it to you I Honest I think it was in my feed. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, do you remember? What's the first video you remember from him from them? Most recent one that I can think of though, like I don't know about the first one, but something about LA, something about Skid Row. Okay, okay, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, okay, yeah, then it was that, yeah."],[null,"Okay, and what do you think he does right? The other journalists don't do right. It's a leading question, but I'm not a real journalist. Yeah, you're not a real journalist? Why aren't you actively doing journalism right now? I guess so. My friend said, a leading question. It's a leading question. I'm like, oh, it's a leading question. Thanks, though. I appreciate that. I'm a real journalist. Yeah, like journalism is what you do. So, yeah. Yeah. It's not like who you are necessarily. If you like do it, you do it. But I like that he shows up where people are at and he talks to them. You know what I mean?"],[null,"Like you're doing it right now, kind of, which is like kind of meta. You know what I'm saying about it? It is kind of meta, no? But I'm not a real journalist. No, but. I'm a meta journalist. Meta journalist. Yeah. No, but I think it's cool that he just goes to places and talks to people. He doesn't say shit about places he's never been. And then refuse to go there and continue to say the same shit, which is what a lot of people do. So, yeah. Pretty much it. Are there any stories? Are you from Denver? No, I'm from New York originally. Okay. Yeah. Are there any things you think that are happening in New York or in Denver that you feel like he should be covering?"],[null,"Or someone like him should be surfacing that we're not really seeing the real story on? Shit. I mean, I don't know. I think New York and Denver have either enough attention on them or not enough going on to warrant him showing up. Because there's probably places he can go to highlight better stories. But we got local journalists in Denver who are taken care of a lot. Okay, who are your favorite local journalists? Shout them out. By name, I don't know. But whoever does the Denver City Podcast, like Denver City Cast, I forget what it's called. But they always know what's up. Okay, well, that's a plug."],[null,"I never heard of that shit. I'm from Philly. I've been out here like five weeks. Okay, I think Philly has one of these podcasts, one of the City Cast. podcasts so if you do like is it like public access tv type shit no but it's like type shit type shit it's like a network of uh of like just intentionally local uh podcast networks for a handful of cities in the u.s so okay that's sick i'm gonna look into that they do uh they do monthly episodes just like let people know what's going on about is that how you get your information how i get my most like denver centric information probably yeah"],[null,"Yeah. Okay, that's sick. Yeah. Do you have a message for Andrew? Keep doing what you're doing. Oh yeah. Cool. And if you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? Mmm. Damn, that's a really good question, man. I don't know. I'm totally stumped. I'm totally stumped. Stream of consciousness, whatever comes to mind. It could even not be a question. Okay. I guess I would ask them if they like pizza or sandwiches more. Mmm. Yeah. Okay. Pizza sandwiches. Pizza sandwiches, yeah. And you want to shout out, like, your name or your social media? Shout out anything you want. My name's Liam."],[null,"Okay, shout out to you. That's all you need to know. Okay. That's good enough. Fuck yeah. Have a good night. Thanks, man. It's for We Them Media. Okay. We have an Instagram. It's We Them Media. Yeah, you too, too. Yeah, I think the only thing I would say is try to keep every interview under, like, a minute and 30 seconds. Yeah, I know, right? I'm like burning time over here. But I think, like you said, right afterwards will be good too. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is it. And this is my personal page. I'll follow you back if that's cool. Yeah. I don't know what I did there, but."],[null,"Hell yeah. Good luck with whatever you are. Fuck yeah, man. I appreciate it. Enjoy the show, guys. Yeah, thanks. I don't even know. I don't know. But I think this is sick. You should get this on video. What's up? Can I ask you guys a couple questions on camera before the show? No, it's okay. That's okay. Can I get like a video of the back of your sweatshirt? It's like a cool. It looks cool? Yeah, sure. Hell yeah. All right. She said we get a video of the back of her sweatshirt at least. I think it's a cool frame. Sheesh, this guy with the framing."],[null,"Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. Professional. Hell yeah. Can I ask you guys a couple questions before you head inside? What's up? Yeah. Fuck yeah. Okay, no stress, no stress. What's up? Can I ask you a couple questions before you head inside? No, that's all right. I hear it, man. It's starting. Go get your seat. Let me ask me. Let's go. A man of the people. What's your name? I'm Jake. Jake, nice to meet you. I'm Mateo. Is this gonna go on the- No, I'm not with Channel 5, admittedly, but I'm trying to reach Andrew because I admire what he does. Okay, yeah."],[null,"But I appreciate you anyway. Yeah, yeah. So how did you first find out about Channel 5? YouTube. Okay. And yourself? From me today. Okay. When we got these tickets. Okay, you got them today. What was the impetus? You know he was supposed to be here like a year ago. I work right over there, right? Uh-huh, and this is like kind of old school. It's the only they still have the playbills up on the wall, right? I don't like apps and stuff so I for work. You know I walk by and I see the posters And I saw his a year ago, and then it vanished. Yeah, it came back. I don't know why I show that cancel"],[null,"You're a rugger. You're like a con man in crypto you rug people Andrew. Oh I'm just a little bit I literally saw the sign. I saw the sign, and I was waffling on the decision. And I was like, you know, I don't even know what the show's going to be. Alive? Whatever. It's going to be very interesting, and I think it'll be kind of cool. So I couldn't say no. So I'm trying to get into this man on the street kind of journalism, guerrilla journalism. What do you admire about what he does that I can keep in mind, or other people like myself who want to take on his approach?"],[null,"He, well, he has people out in the field, right? he covers stories that corporate interests don't always like right and he brings great I think he's kind of I think he's courageous right I think his other his life it was team they're all courageous and he teaches us about stuff we otherwise probably wouldn't know about so that's what I like about him where else you get your news oh it's a mess I'm kind of addicted to the news it's a really bad thing I listen to NPR probably five times a day this guy knows what's going on in the world. Oh, I'm obsessed. Very connected."],[null,"I listen to The Daily up first every morning. Then I do CNN Inside Politics, which is like rage bait. It makes me angry all the time, but I still listen to it because I'm addicted. Okay. So that's... We got the right guy. I probably have too much news coming... This is your guy. Yeah, I've got too much news to be honest. Okay, but like, what are your top five sources? Like, for people who want to know what the fuck is going on right now, I don't know what's going on. Why are we at war? Yeah, I would say... I don't know. And that's crazy because he's an expert."],[null,"I know. I would say I think NPR. I called you an expert by the way. Oh, yeah. Thank you Just take that NPR can always be NPR can always be trusted. I would always trust NPR. Fuck yeah Trust is important. But yeah, I mean what else you got? I'm gonna get in line. Okay. No, okay So do you have anything you want to say to Andrew? I'm about to say to Timothy because my friend's walking up Nah, you're a casual fan of his and I think it's cool that he's doing live shows I still don't know what to expect. So I think it's neat that he's doing it"],[null,"I saw him a couple years ago he like showed some of the short films he'd made that he couldn't release because of like copyright and shit like that maybe I don't know and Then he had like a talent show I freestyle that actually won. I have a t-shirt Oh, yeah, I heard he has a talent show so that's cool. Maybe you'll see me on stage to freestyle again. Are you going in? Yeah, definitely. I bought three of us tickets. Let's go. They've been housing me for a month for next to free Shout out to them. Well good. Alright well enjoy the show guys. Last question last question"],[null,"If you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? And this is for both of you It's for both of you Yeah um That's a really good question actually. See, I couldn't let you run away. Is that a Donny question? No, not about Donald Trump, but, you know, I think Iran is a really good example, right? It's a massive, beautiful, complex country that your average American doesn't even find on a fucking map, right? And it's always driven me crazy that we, Talk your shit. That we like, that we have these views, right? And I was telling my coworker this the other day,"],[null,"I said, this is not the Middle East you think of. not people living in caves fucking goats okay this is a beautiful this is ancient persia right and he looked that's right he was like and i was like i also wonder and i think the answer is probably no if people might feel the same way about america like um this is also a big complicated country i don't think america's is hidden right as iran is to us absolutely like iranians probably know a lot more about america than we do that yeah it's probably because of our you know our cultural to me, you know, that stuff."],[null,"Solid take. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a good take. Do you have a take? It's a good take. No comment. No comment. Do you not have a question? I do not. I have no expectations today, so... No, for the world. This is even for him, right? A question for people around the world. Stream of consciousness. Stream of consciousness. No comment. Do they hate us? Do they hate us? I'm sure everyone hates us because of Donnie, but... The question is, you know, should you care if they hate you? Yes. See, I would say... I would hate us too. I would say, but I, you can't, you can't care."],[null,"You can't give enough shits about what people on the other side of the world think about you. Right? Because they don't know you. I think if we're doing the wrong thing, then yes. Yeah, but they don't know you and you're not doing that thing. No, I'm not. You're not blowing up a school. But I would hate our country too if we were doing the things that we're doing. Yeah, I would too. Yeah, there you go. And all these things people have done in response, I think, I'm not saying they're right, but I'm saying I understand why you'd be angry. It's all good. I know you guys want to run, but what are your names?"],[null,"You can say your first names. Oh, yeah. This is for We Them Media, enjoy the show. Shaboom. Hey. There he goes. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. What's up? What's up, man? Do you want this? It's late, an hour late. Sorry."]]},{"id":"3VjwHZa_AYI","slug":"barber-law-and-two-barbers-in-germantown","title":"The Philly barbershop interview","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[1,"Yeah, my actress actually maybe like Yeah, he's smart kid over there for a scholarship. Kappa over there stomping a yard trying to influence his name."],[21,"Uh we got um Yeah, I'm right here. Cory, right? Yeah. Yeah, my bad. I'm sorry. Like a new new guy coming up. Yeah, you can't come in and"],[40,"not get a good little service done to you. No harm, no foul, right? Yeah. I used to just grow my hair out as a afro and then let it get really nappy and ignore it."],[53,"Trying to stop doing that. You got good course of hair. The bad stuff a good course like it ain't unmanageable comes with anxiety too. A lot of people got unmanageable hair and they get then they get anxiety cuz they got to be around certain people that that's keeping their appearance up. Anxiety."],[79,"Yeah. I don't think that was necessarily my anxiety. I feel my anxiety will be more like I don't feel prepared for this given social situation. What should I do? And then I'm like, I'm going to do the wrong thing. And then I get stressed out that it's going to go poorly. And then I spend five minutes in my head thinking about how it's going to go poorly. And then I I I come back to the present and the room is empty."],[99,"Uh that's in your in my mental in your mind or that's what's actually happened. You said the room is empty. Oh no. Sometimes sometimes like it's it might not even be a real room, you know."],[109,"Mhm. The people are just gone. Like like if I don't know people like who are they like who is this dude walked up and got hit with a grenade."],[119,"It's like a resume. You go into a job and you prepared as opposed to resume will ask you those type questions. The resume really prepares you for the questions that they're asking you. They're expectations. The same way when you go out and you doing what you do, you got to have expectations for what you're doing. Mhm."],[140,"Like same way what you doing what you doing. You know what you doing. You can't just hand anybody your mic and your camera say why you filming over there. I'm talking over here. The expectations,"],[151,"right? I mean honestly I I don't really mind that. You know I saw you got the different angles. No, you don't mind just him in general. I'm just I'm just speaking in general like what's the what's up with you? You got to you going to have expectations for what you're doing and how to do it."],[163,"Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. And know how to know how to manage expectations, work with people, right? No, I agree. But I really like what you said, right, around like guidance and elders and being able to seek that out."],[172,"Mhm. And I feel like I've had a I've really felt even nervous to do that sometimes, right? But I think I'm really stepping into a time where I'm just I'm trying to fail faster and I'm trying to I'm trying to get guidance on how to do it right before I get guidance on how to deal with what didn't go right."],[186,"I think I used to be like, \"Dang, it didn't go well. I need help.\" People don't want to help. No, you just got to know. You got to be able to be a leader as well as a flower. So if you go in"],[197,"just trying to follow somebody else's lead, that's not how really f followers follow because you got to have some type of guidance to be a follower."],[209,"Like where are you follow what you where you starting off following? Like what what's your follow? What's your your goal as a follower? You get what I'm saying?"],[221,"Definitely. Definitely like I'm a teacher. barber teacher, right? So, what's I would say what is your goal before you just getting taught like what are your goal as me teaching you your your craft the craft"],[235,"like you just want to know the knowledge of health and safety? Do you want to enhance your skills? Like what's what's your focal point on your main attention?"],[246,"Yeah. So, so even you like you you're doing what you do like you would you find somebody's main attention on what they what they want to what brings their interest what would take what would take their interest so"],[265,"you can't be everywhere with it you got to have something I agree with that interesting and so how long you been teaching I just really started, but I always but not like licensed wise teaching."],[283,"Mhm. But I've been teaching since I've been cutting cuz I'm always like I'm like a good barber. Like I taught people without the license, but I'm actually with the state board teacher licensing now passing state board um theory. Then I take the practical and then licensed teacher PA licensed barber teacher."],[314,"Okay, that's cool. And so how long would it take to become a well taught like uh barber man on a the license wise or just general? Like general like like"],[326,"generally I mean how I cut my hair it's up to you but to get licensing it takes for a regular barber $1,250. Interesting. Okay. And so"],[342,"as a barber teacher you got to five years. You're saying to be a barber as a licensed barber. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so how do you structure like your teaching? Like how you teach people"],[355,"like I just say you break it down to what they need according they just need a license you give them everything. But if you need um"],[362,"for me right I don't really necessarily want a license to cut hair but I like to feel confident cutting my own hair and somebody else's hair."],[369,"Well um according to like different standards you just I guess break that down and just a guidance without the actual license part. I don't know cuz it cuz like we clinically we got hours on basic haircut cutting."],[385,"You got um health hygiene type barberh shop conversations certain certain topics you talk about in barber the shave how you shave without getting bumped. You know about the skin you learn about the pigmentation of the skin"],[400,"the hair skin nails derma. You learn about it all bacteria. How crosscontaminate certain stuff. How to keep clean your stuff properly. Mhm. You got you learn how to take stuff. So that's part of cutting hair. So if you doing it, you you learn that you doing this type stuff. You say, \"I might as well go in a little more.\""],[419,"Might as well go in a little more. I done learn this. Then you be like, \"Oh, damn. I might as well be a licensed barber.\""],[424,"Cuz lic cuz barbering you can't supposed to You don't supposed to cut hair without a license. Somebody else. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cut your own hair all day."],[433,"Yeah. But someone else you can't you can't do it. Now I know what you're saying. Okay. 1,250 hours to become a licensed. Why would you say"],[443,"as somebody just coming on? But like a cosmetologist, you need get 550 555 hours as if you already licensed cosmetologist, but just trying to get a bar."],[454,"How many weeks is that? That's like nine months. Nine months. Nine months. Okay, that's good. Nine months for the um regular one. If you're cas 12 um what's it 24 you know 24 eight hours a day as the mandatory hourly or most hours you could do in the day and just calculate that 55 55 is just for counties everybody else is just calculate their hours for 1200 out of 1200 50."],[496,"What do you think most people take for granted about maintaining their hair? Uh the health health and safety of being the healthwise could be the barbering period. the safety of it. No cross contamination like she might you might get nice enough to cut your hair right and she might see oh can I borrow a cup real quick and they don't know you just cross contaminated"],[524,"each other skin whatever by not letting them clean it probably not got to clean stuff probably you got it right uh cleaning solutions you got to have you got to have everything"],[536,"got to oil you got to oil your clippers and everything like it's not just simple cutting hair it's lot of cross like some same thing like um somebody get a wound, cut a wound. You're not going to say I just open my bump with this jaw."],[551,"Me wipe it off with some soap and water and you do this and you you use you know what I'm saying? There certain solutions you got you have to use to protect for safety and health cuz it can get worse"],[562,"if you crossaminate the wrong way. Oh, that's true. I get that. I get that. Like somebody got a infectious infectious hair bomb. They use a clipper. you didn't have it, but but now you're going to get it because you didn't clean it properly after they use your stuff. Understand? So, we got to teach you the um bacterialology, crosscontamination. We got to teach you health well as the safety, proper lighting is important. Hair file, hair textures, got to teach you everything. Doesn't just as simple as teach me how to cut hair and you grabbing clippers cuz I got to teach you how to clipper operates."],[607,"Mhm. That makes sense. How to comb how to make it how to just say I'm trying to get this but I keep getting the line like you got to comb it out."],[616,"Cut it and you comb it out with some stuff. But a lot of people don't know. They just thinking just I got to cut my hair and they're going get anxiety like where do I start? If I'm trying to achieve this type haircut, how do I start? If I'm trying to do this a fade, how do I start? So, it's nothing this simple. So, it's it's it's basically you're learning licensing, which is like a driver's license. Learning the the right you get your license according to you learn how you practice how to go by the law."],[656,"So, it's just we got barber law. You get your license because you learn you practice the law of barbering cuz Yeah. So say you cutting your own hair."],[669,"Mhm. And you just outside your clippers. You balling whatever, but you didn't know the bar. Right. So you you you sweaty or something. You try to be real quick. You got to scratch or somebody scratch your basketball. Now you infected yourself when you get cutting in your hair and scrap. You scratching your neck too much from the clippers. Ah,"],[688,"now you got infection. So we you clean because it disinfect clean clippers disinfect you with alcohol. It just it just it just could go on and on. You learn stuff. But once you learn it, it doesn't go nowhere. You remember like, oh yeah, I avoid that. Y it's a lot of stuff that you wouldn't take take for probably would take for granted"],[718,"that you should learn about if you're trying to learn if you're trying to cut cut corners on cutting hair. You know what I'm saying? Mhm."],[729,"Cuz the more you know, the more skillful thing you are. Like so say you doing somebody breaks, you can't do brakes without bleeding them. You know what I'm saying? You might know everything else except bleeding them."],[739,"Mhm. Then somebody going to have an accident. Somebody might die, right? It might get that deep. Just one little thing that you forgot left out that somebody left out and now you're something. The safety part is in jeopardy."],[755,"Mhm. So that's what we got. Health and safety. That's the main reason for barbering. Health and safety. Cuz back in the day they had razor and comb. You had no clippers,"],[769,"right? Mhm. Scissors, shears, got thinning shears. You got your So, you learn all the type tools. Like, so a lot of people can't go in the store. You can't go in the store and say, \"I'm going to get this type of I want to cut my hair.\""],[782,"Mhm. And they like, \"All right, what you need?\" You should know what you need before you go in the store. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So, That's my job. I'm here to break it down for you."],[807,"The more you know the better. So that could be another topic for you to go on when you go into barber say give me a basic breakdown of blazy blah and break down this and break down this what's the best product for this like topics relatable topics"],[835,"that's a good idea like you you got your camera you got the microphone on like some somebody seem like damn that's a something I wouldn't do."],[846,"Mhm. And they break you break it down from well you would get this from here you would get this from here this good quality of this you know you know how to break how you know how close to talking to the mic how close not to talk to the mic."],[857,"Yeah that's a good idea break it down. You got to break it down. You got to break it all down. So how many students you working with right now?"],[869,"How many students? Yeah. Not too many yet. Cuz I was just more focused on getting the actual physical license to hang up. But I just got partial of it. I got half of it. You got to take the practical and you got to take the theory part. Theory is the like computer whatever"],[886,"or like like they call it the written. Mhm. I just got to take that part now. Mhm. Okay. Like it's something that like stuff like I already passed on the regular licensing,"],[896,"but I just got to show that I can teach it. I get that. I get that. Yeah. Who is this? That's cool. Mhm. Yeah. Like all them pictures on there. That's that's that's my work on there."],[914,"On the front. Mhm. On the front there. I posted it up. Okay. Cool. I got the uh Instagram um Tik Tok. Check it out on there. Sharp Hands Matter. Sharp hands matter."],[930,"Y show you how people even with the razor. Somebody want a clean sharp cut at last. Show them how to hold the razor. Mhm. Certain ways to hold the razor so you don't cut yourself, hurt, the razor doesn't slip. Going to sharpen it cuz this is just just like barber law. That's what it is. Barbber Law and um How do you like razor?"],[966,"Like a straight razor? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then what time is it? I think it's like maybe 1210. 1210. I left my watch so I don't got to keep going to my phone. Look at the time. I left it. Getting the kids to school this morning. Wearing it so much. Uh, takes the circulation out my takes the circulation off. Like, damn. I got to get this off of me. D something. I don't want to put it back on. came outside and got a surprise haircut. You said on the thing it said promotional $5 haircuts on there sometime."],[1060,"Yeah. On Thursdays and sat Tuesdays and Saturdays. You don't know about that? I'm I wasn't here for that. Oh, that's like one of the things you can't do. You pretty sure"],[1078,"I'm here to like be around for my clients. I used to work down at the hair company. Yeah. Like in like still in the same neighborhood like if they like I was a different neighborhood. They like, \"Oh, that's too far.\""],[1089,"Yeah. Yeah. But I go what you're saying now you're right here. Yeah. That makes sense. And but the main reason is for that teacher's license."],[1096,"Mhm. So that's the main reason here. So, how does being here help you get your teacher's license? You said who? How does being here help you get your teacher's license?"],[1104,"Oh, through Ryan. That's a program. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Working with Ryan. Working with Ryan five years and he you sign he get you to um Well, not not necessarily here. You work under any licensed shop with your license for five years"],[1125,"under a licensed barber manager in a licensed barber shop and that qualifies you for the um to get you the teachers license so being as though Ron's a teacher he helps me with that program that makes sense. So that's why I'm here."],[1155,"And part of it you have to have about five is this 500 hours as um teaching. Mhm. And that qualifies you for the barber teacher. licensing."],[1180,"Mhm. You definitely got to give me the um your site. A meter. Yeah. Handicap drawing the window. I ain't know that. Yeah, they give you like an hour."],[1208,"Why you coming? Oh, y like an hour. Yeah. To me. Already. No, no, no. I get the hour the handicap. Oh, you got it. Okay. You got to"],[1223,"Yeah. I'm good. If I got my handicap in the window, right? So, if you got a handicap, you don't get a ticket. like an hour. You get an hour, right?"],[1240,"Yeah. And lately she been noticing he ain't me. And so we got a little karaoke interlude. So yeah, I've been growing it out. I'm trying to grow my hair longer."],[1255,"So they told me I took a sponge brush. I was thinking about like trying out doing braids. I've never had braids before. I was thinking about potentially trying out locks. I had locks very briefly."],[1263,"Mhm. I had twist before. Um but yeah, as I'm growing it out, what what do you think about how I'm approaching it? You can tell I've been using that sponge brush, but I don't think I'm using the sponge rubber sponge brush, right? I'm not going to lie."],[1277,"Um I'm supposed to push it hard on my head. No, you just just like style it. Mhm. You style you sponge it. Go. So, you got the the the racket style sponge curly top."],[1292,"Yeah. And you just style it. Yeah. You don't have to push. Mhm. You just just once you get the curl, you just style it. You could even go like this. Bring it out and then do it. Do it again. Pick it."],[1303,"And then brush it. I should pick it while I'm doing it. No, just saying just just to just so you don't push it down. Yeah."],[1310,"Just or even if when it's curly, it's going to not show the real lengthy hair anyway. So, it's really getting curly. So you just go in curly motion all the way around like styling it. Get it?"],[1323,"Not really, but it's okay. He said not really. I feel like I've been doing it wrong. So this is the sponge brush. You don't have to push."],[1331,"Yes. Make it curly. Style it. And wait. That I wouldn't just go one way like this. You get what I'm saying? I'm making it curly in the spot that's curly."],[1341,"So I'm just like going in circles there, right? And you just the whole head. Just keep moving around the whole time I'm doing it. The whole head. Yeah."],[1352,"And so like mine I guess. Okay. It's like longer. Is that okay? Yeah. Mine is at at two sides. Yeah, I see that. But the other side is like holes that go in on my"],[1362,"Yeah, they got different kinds. Yeah. I don't know. I just got mine down. But that's how you do it. Yeah. Fascinating. I tried to do it before I left the house. I didn't look like I did it right at all."],[1371,"Mhm. And then I and then I just said, \"Okay.\" I just push my hair down and say, \"It looks push down.\" I just going to look how it looks. But I appreciate that."],[1379,"Mhm. Yeah. I put in my leave-in conditioner and then I have like some olive oil gel. Okay. You didn't put stuff in there. Not olive oil. Is it olive oil?"],[1397,"So you went to Where you go to school at? Where did I Yeah. I went to like which school? Who? Who school? Like for what? For high school."],[1405,"Yeah, high school. I went to high school outside the city in um in Xton. I went to boarding school. All boys school. Mhm. So I didn't go to high school here in the city at all, which feels weird every time I come to city cuz I feel like I feel like I'm missing something."],[1417,"And like who's your focal point when you do your advertising for your um podcast? What is it? What is it? That's a good question. Honestly, I wouldn't say it's very difficult."],[1427,"Like political. Oh, you take it to political, do you take it to political? I want to do like culture and society commentary, I guess. Culture and society."],[1434,"How do you get it viewed? Just online. Um, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, right now I'm just honestly trying to push on Instagram and old social media."],[1443,"Mhm. And try to I guess kind of through going out and doing it and talking to people get more subscribers and followers that way. And so hopefully you follow us on Instagram. That's just like local"],[1458,"my goal. I really want to develop like a local following. That's like my primary focus. So nothing nothing extreme yet. Yeah. I mean people say, you know, as a musician in particular, right? Like you know, when your hometown is behind you, that's when you really have legs. So I'm really focused on like what kind of content could I create in Philadelphia that people Philadelphia think would actually be a meaningful contribution to the city."],[1477,"You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you got to go big with certain people. Some people got to go a little bigger than Yeah. Like I said, I don't really I wasn't here for high school. I don't I feel like I'm not that tapped into the city and the city's culture."],[1489,"So, I kind of want to I have a personal investment in doing that. Mhm. So, that's kind of what it is. And I've been all around the world, you know, over the past like three years. I was in Africa for for almost four months."],[1501,"How was that? And that was dope. I was in Nigeria for two and a half three months total. I was in Ethiopia for a month. Um, I spent like two months in Asia the year before that. I was in Thailand for five weeks, Vietnam for a week and a half, I was in for a month. No, that crypto stuff."],[1515,"Oh man. And I spent some time in Europe. I was in London. I was in Manchester. I was in Belgium. So, I spent a little bit time in the Caribbean. Not not like not more than a week though, but out in the Bahamas, too. So, I've been I've been traveling like for crypto stuff and I feel like I've learned a lot about the world, about economics, and now it's like I want to make sure that like I want to teach people about crypto, about economics, but I don't want to like be like I don't really just want to make content about that, you know? So, I want"],[1542,"to come here and understand, you know, what what are people think isn't working in the city? What would like to see the community doing more? You know, who are people in the community that you feel like we should be highlighting and giving like letting tell their story, right?"],[1552,"You got to go political. Sometimes you got to keep it you say you keep it local, you going to get like a local crowd. You go a little bit political, you get more of a"],[1561,"like a community based. You get a little mixture of everything. So my man Ryan here, he's he's political a lot of stuff. So maybe I should interview him sometime. But that's what I'm saying. Like I just want my YouTube I want people to be able to go on my YouTube and get like an archive of Philadelphia or my team is in Nigeria archive from their communities in Nigeria."],[1580,"And you know I want to be able to recruit more reporters in different places around the world to be able to do it too. So that our YouTube or our brand becomes like we're like you know BBC but like your your local your local broadcaster you know built BBC."],[1594,"Mhm. How old are you? 26. 26. Yeah. And my son is 25. Yeah. Yeah. I heard you say that. Yeah. So crazy seeing young young guys grow."],[1609,"Is it what? It says so crazy seeing your young guys grow older. when I was y age or it's just I just remember cutting y'all young guys remember y'all was here."],[1620,"Yeah. And then up here like wow I was 26 25 24 How are you living when you were 24? How was I living? Yeah, I was living good. So it was all right. I think I had my first I had my my son was four."],[1640,"Oh yeah. Yeah. Your son you were 20. As a matter of fact, I was my son wasn't even four. My son was when I was 24."],[1647,"I had my son when I was 18. He was like six. About like six. I had him 18, 19. Yeah. I cannot imagine having a kid 18."],[1660,"I can't imagine having Look how he came out. Eight year old now. Say that. Look, look how he came out. No, no. I'm just saying I can't imagine like what I would be doing. I can't"],[1668,"You got You gota want them. I want I wanted I wanted my son. I was just I already be around kids and stuff all the time, man. So,"],[1677,"I want my kid. Takes responsibility. And some days I'm like, I can't imagine being responsible for a pet. Oh, this looks nice though. Okay. Yeah, it looks better. See, told you you got to be fresh if you want to do the sitting up in here. You got to be"],[1706,"I like that. I like that. I might have to keep coming back. I might have to keep coming back. That's my That's the whole idea."],[1711,"You made me a customer. Now I got two barbers in Germantown. Hold on."]]},{"id":"F5vXOAif_FQ","slug":"grief-journalism-and-getting-on-stage-at-channel-5","title":"Andrew Callaghan’s Carnival Tour hits Denver: fans on journalism","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[22,"I'm doing some interviews ahead of the show. Could I ask you all some questions? Would you be open? Sure, yeah. Fuck yeah. So, how did you guys find out, can I hand you the mic? Yes. Hell yeah. How did you guys first find out about Channel 5 or Andrew Callaghan?"],[38,"YouTube Okay, was it you know like like it was in your feed or somebody sent it to you? Honestly, I think it was in my feed. Yeah, fuck. Yeah. Do you remember what's the first video you remember from him from them?"],[51,"Most recent one that I can think of though like I don't know about the first one, but some about LA some about Skid Row. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, then it was that yeah Okay, and what do you think he does right the other journalists don't do right? It's a leading question, but I'm not a real journalist yeah you're not a real journalist aren't you actively doing journalism right now i guess so my friends had a leading leading question it's a leading question i'm like oh it's a leading question uh no i mean i appreciate that i'm a real journalist yeah like i pretty sure like"],[83,"journalism is what you do so yeah yeah it's not like who you are necessarily if you like do it you do it but yeah i like that he shows up where people are at and he talks to them you know what i mean like you're doing it right now kind of which is like kind of meta you know if you think about It's kind of metadome, but I'm not a real journalist. I'm a meta-journalist. Meta-journalist, yeah. No, but I think it's cool that he just goes to places and talks to people. He doesn't say shit about places he's never been and then refused to go there and continue to say the same shit, which is what a lot of people do, so, yeah."],[114,"I saw Andrew Callaghan's show and I was like, damn, I want to go there, but I can't, so. What do you like about Andrew? What does he do right? What does he do, right? Well, I haven't seen him since like three years ago, but I just like how it's like semi-ironically. He's got the fire explosions and like all that shit and then he has the people like rap at the end and it's like, I don't know. I think it's cool how he interviews like homeless people and just like regular people. You don't see that a lot with other interviewers or YouTubers or people. They always interview like I don't know they don't interview like just the regular folks and the crazy people"],[156,"You remember when you first found out about Andrew? About First encounter maybe like five years ago on YouTube. Yeah, remember which video was not a clue I remember like the The sex convention one that was pretty funny. Yeah, that's funny you know, I actually also saw him live three years ago in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on that same tour I saw Oh, cool. He was playing videos from the sex convention like during that thing. I'm pretty sure. Oh, I see I see and somebody in Pittsburgh for that show was in the talent show and also had been in that video And so he pulled up the video to show us specifically because somebody from that video was in the audience with us"],[194,"Oh, I see. I see. I think I beat them in the talent show"],[199,"Okay, are there any stories between Texas or here and Denver that you feel like aren't getting enough coverage? and we have a lot of people coverage or aren't being done justice that somebody like Andrew should be servicing the critical consciousness of an audience such as this. What about this? Pick one thing."],[216,"Pick one thing. What stands out here is not getting enough coverage in the world right now."],[223,"Claudie, I didn't have some good. No, no, no, I'm here to ask the people, right? The people. I've been doing this project. We've been giving out 100 bucks a week for people who go out and and ask the question of the week that we're doing on this crypto platform. We've had people, like I said, around the world participate and so every week we ask a question. What's a question you would ask people around the world? I guess like if you had unlimited resources, what would you create? You know, there's there is this like philosophy or hypothesis that I like to follow. That's the balance of consumption versus creation."],[256,"so the more people create the more we put in balance that dichotomy and we want people to be creating more than we're consuming because creation comes from you know a really special place obviously women have the anatomy to create life but the same energetic center resides in all of us no matter what kind of anatomy you have or identify with so No, shout out to you, that's a good take, that's a good take See, I knew you had, you had everything we needed How do you see what's going on in the world right now? He is my world right now Oh, you're the world right now, what's up?"],[294,"And you pull up in real time"],[298,"What's up, man, can I ask you one question? So how's the show been tonight? Been great, bro, it's been great Actually, I drove in from Fargo, North Dakota I drove 13 hours to get here, bro Really? It's my birthday today You here for your birthday? Yes, sir Fuck yeah, bro, happy fucking birthday I appreciate it, man, for real, bro Hell yeah If you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them?"],[317,"Are you living a life for yourself or are you living it for other people? You gotta ask yourself that Sheesh, and what's your name? David Alright, shout out to David, the birthday guy Appreciate it, man, for sure Hell yeah Ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them?"],[331,"I don't know, it'd probably be generic, but like, what's it all for? Not in a pessimistic way, like, not in a negative context, but just like What are the things that make you happy and what are the things that are worth your time and worth your efforts? It's always curious to say with that that, you know? Oh, yeah, man. Like, default's always going to be family and friends, but sometimes people say something like, shit, man, like, I just love eating blueberries, and they're like, oh, that's a good answer. I've worked my whole entire life, love eating 20 blueberries, like, I don't know. Or they're like, oh, I like swimming, I like reading books."],[361,"It's like, those are good answers. It doesn't always come down to, like, building a business or some industrious type thing. It's like some pleasure in life. So if you always give radical answers to me, it's always an interesting thing to hear. What about you? What's the last question you want to ask Last question, I guess I have two more questions You know, speaking about Right, that guy, Rick, or I don't know What his name was, right, what do you think are some of the shortcomings About our culture around grief here in America Our shortcomings about grief? Yeah, the shortcomings of our culture Around grief, are there any"],[395,"I ask a lot of leading questions I guess, I feel like there There are like a lot of shortcomings This guy lost his wife and his bird That's just referring to like whatever shows up when I speak to that But go ahead, you're speaking Yeah, I think that we just kind of, we don't acknowledge it. Like, I really wish, like, as a culture, like, we had something like Dia de los Muertos, where you celebrate the coming back of your lost loved ones, and you build shrines. Even, like, Asian culture, Japan, they build shrines. You remember them actively. But we don't really do that. We have cemeteries, but if you want to be cremated, then you don't get to go somewhere to honor your loved one."],[434,"and it's just, you just do it every day, try to find something in daily life to remember them by and sometimes that's not enough. And it would be nice to have a day, to have a moment that is dedicated to like honoring their memory specifically instead of just on a day to day, get hit with that grief out of nowhere and have to cope with it. Where like our society, I think the biggest thing, like when I lost my grandfather. It was just like it was a beautiful sunny day and the world just kept moving even though my world was ending. It was really hard. So I think that is kind of where we we come up short where it feels very isolating. Everything just keeps moving. No one stops. There's no time to but not given time to process. Yeah. And there's just no we just don't have anything in our culture."],[498,"to honor the dead yeah yeah or to dignify the grief you might say yeah that's what i would say that's yeah i think that's a good way to put it like i mean i would want to be cremated i know he wants to be cremated i think my like recent anyone that has passed recently has been cremated so there's nowhere to go to honor them so you have to find that place but then it's like am i like is it cultural appropriation if i build a shrine or if i try to celebrate their death on like Halloween because that's Dia de los Muertos so it's you know there's just nothing to do that to"],[535,"have that release as a community and it's very frustrating. Thanks. Yeah. Do you have an answer? I don't. Thanks babe. Yeah. That's very heartfelt. I appreciate your authenticity. Yeah. Yeah. I've thought about it a lot. Yeah. We always talk about how you're doing. I do love Dia de los Muertos. I do yeah. I find it comforting to think like there's a day that they came back. Your grandfather was a big person for you, huh? He was."],[572,"Who was he in the world?"],[578,"He was a father and a friend and an avid fisherman. He was a grandfather. Yeah. And my only father. I didn't know my dad and he stepped up, so. If this video were his shrine, what would you think it would be important to say? Or have inscribed on the internet?"],[599,"I think just treat each other fairly. Treat each other kindly. I feel like that's always what he did. My mom always described him as he would give you the shirt off his back. He always welcomed any kid that needed help into his house. Yeah. Just love each other. It's really nice to be with you both. I love you both so much. I appreciate you just bringing your heart right here. Yeah. Didn't think I was going to do that tonight, but here we are. Didn't think you were here. Yeah. It's funny you don't realize how like broad is, until you start talking about it. It's like, oh yeah, that still hurts, shit. So yeah."],[653,"Well you look good with your heart on your sleeve, I'll let you know. Thank you. I'll dignify your grief. Appreciate it. And if you two could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them?"],[671,"Okay, well she's already called, you don't get to decline. Well my first thing to take me to say that was to me, what was her name again? Maceo. Maceo? That was my question?"],[683,"Can I ask you how you ended up in the chair? Yeah, I was a victim of a gunshot wound, yeah, fortunately, but... Was it a bystander or you got assaulted? A bystander, yeah, I was just a bystander, yeah, bystander and got caught on the crossfire, fortunately, yeah, but, yeah, it wasn't that bad, I'll do it again, I'd do it again. Did that change your life? I assume so. Oh, for sure, yeah, but like with the knowledge and just kind of mindset I've gotten from it is way more positive, or... We're more impactful than losing my legs, you know what I mean? I feel like I just got a head start, we're all going to be in a wheelchair eventually."],[725,"You can hear it, yeah? I'm on stage at Channel 5 hours of the second time, keep it for real. 2023, I was with this dude in Pittsburgh with Funky Close and my girl, Isaac. Now I'm at Channel 5 again in 2026 in Denver. I don't come in this bitch, but I'm up in this bitch, and you know I'll wrap it up. Ooh, but I'm not done yet. That last guy went for like eight minutes. I said, damn, I thought we found like 60 seconds. Is he finished? He said, no. It's like Andrew said, it's time to go. Now I'm on a stage taking up my own time on a roll. Yeah. I said, what's your question for the fucking world? Somebody else I said, what they think about America outside of America? I said, that's a good fucking question. What they think about America? The world's like going to war and shit. They're blaming us. I don't know if you guys know, but apparently most people in Nigeria last month only had"],[776,"20 hours of electricity. That's fucking crazy. And that's because gas prices are going up and their whole electric grid runs on gasoline. That shit is fucked. Hope you guys enjoy this shit and run me up on YouTube with We Them Media. Check me out. Thank you very much. Hell yeah, man."],[793,"I appreciate it. My name is Maceo. Maceo, where are you from, man? I'm from Philly. Hell yeah, me too. Fuck yeah. I'm out here. I was outside shooting interviews like you on the street, asking people what they think about you, how they found out about Channel 5. We Them Media, we've been putting up questions every week on like a crypto bounty board and having people around the world go out and ask questions. This week's question was, what's something that made you smile this week? So Andrew, what's something that made you smile this week? Hey, a crew back in and out of jail made me smile."],[821,"Fuck yeah!"],[825,"I went to Panda Express, there was no line this afternoon when they were smiling. Fuck yeah! I just got my Xbox installed so I could take some time off and fall in New Vegas and stuff."],[839,"Something that made me smile, man, I've been in Denver five weeks, I came out here for a conference And I'm going back home on Thursday, and I'm excited to see my niece and nephew I've been away from them, and I saw them on Zoom on Sunday, and I feel like it made my whole week Best of luck, man, shoutouts to you"]]},{"id":"n6I2xv0OMQ4","slug":"a-venezuelan-air-force-vet-on-f-16s-and-loving-your-work","title":"A Venezuelan Air Force vet on F-16s and what still makes him smile","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Buenos días, me llamo Maceo, y este video es para Poir y We Them Media, y cada semana estamos preguntando a personas en la calle una pregunta, y la pregunta de esta semana es, ¿qué es algo que te, por qué te has sonrisa?, ¿por qué me sonrío?, ¿por qué me sonrío?, ¿por qué me sonrío?, ¿por qué me sonrío?, Preguntas que tengo que decir ¿Por qué te sonríe? ¿Por qué te sonríe? ¿Por qué te sonríe? ¿Por qué te sonríe? Me estás ayudando Soy nuevo por esta zona y es agradable pues es agradable que se sonrió uno porque de alegría, de ayuda ¿Ok? Eso ¿Puedo pedirte algo más?"],[62,"Depends Okay Si, if you were going to ask people around the world one question What would you ask them?"],[79,"If I'm going to ask something around the world, which is the best country to live?"],[92,"I like that I like that Can I ask you another question? Sure You told me you're from Venezuela Yes How do you think about what's been going on between the US and Venezuela? I like Venezuela Okay, the cool is very hard for me Because Venezuela never... Always is hot But I like this country because all the... All the people, or the majority of the people Respect the law"],[123,"¿Y ahí no tanto? Nothing Nothing Go here or where? Where is the restaurant that I'm looking for? I think it's one more"],[142,"We are in Buena Villa"],[153,"There's like a nice Ethiopian restaurant up here you can go to Okay, yeah, I got the... Right, right We can take this way or... No, it's okay Wow, I prefer the other one The Google Maps is no good"],[187,"Wow"],[191,"It's on the street How is the name? Which is the name of the road? Here is the guy"],[204,"Let's go here"],[208,"Okay, okay I want your answer to this question in Spanish Estaba Diciendo Que Trabajas Around School And Stuff Like That Ah, Si Que Trabajo Puedes Hablar Sobre Eso Claro Cómo No Si Yo Trabajo Aquí En Estados Unidos En Unas Escuelas Públicas De Denver En DPS"],[228,"Específicamente En West High School Tengo Apenas Empecé En Enero De Este Año Pero Anteriormente A Eso Trabajaba En Denver Center For International Students ¿Y Qué Es Eso? Es una escuela, es una escuela de hasta high school que dan chino, español, que es internacional, Denver Center, centro, es un centro de estudiantiles, estudiantes de todo el mundo, vamos a decirlo así, porque aprenden otros idiomas. Ahí trabajaba con alumnos especiales Sigo trabajando allí Con la misma alumna Y yo trabajaba allí en Denver Center For Internacional Student Amo mi trabajo Ah, felicidades Nunca imaginé que iba a trabajar Con alumnos especiales Que iba a trabajar en una escuela Pública y menos con alumnos especiales"],[294,"Porque yo soy militar retirado De la Fuerza Aérea de Venezuela Trabajé con el F-16 En aviónica de ataque"],[303,"Sí, trabajé con eso, también trabajé con el Mirage, que es un avión francés ¿También hablas francés? No, no, pero leo, porque todos los manuales vienen en francés, pero es fácil, el francés es relativamente fácil, más fácil que el inglés para mí. También en la parte de trabajar, el Mirage con sistemas de armamento, si toda la parte que les cuelga a los aviones, todos los sistemas de bombardeo, de lanzar bombas, de disparar, el radar, el sistema de radar, todo eso trabajé en Venezuela con el Mirage, también trabajé con el C-130 y C-23 que son aviones viejos, en la parte de radar, esa es la posibilidad de mí, el radar, el sistema de radar, el sistema de radar es un aire meteorológico, y bueno, estoy aquí, ya yo tengo, yo pasé retiro en el 2010,"],[364,"En Venezuela Y me vine para acá en el 2023 Allá trabajaba Hay muy poquito trabajo A una edad ya pasando los 40 años Ya no consigues trabajo 50 menos y ahorita con 60 y pico Pero estoy aquí Porque realmente Estoy trabajando Hago mi trabajo muy bien Y lo amo De verdad que Me gusta mi trabajo Y tienes un mensaje para el mundo Para el mundo, este, hagan su trabajo con amor, hagan lo que hagan, el trabajo que estén ejecutando, háganlo con pasión, amen su trabajo, no es que lo hagan bien, sino que lo hagan perfecto, que esa es la diferencia que puede haber una persona que trabaja por trabajar y otra que trabaja cuando ama su trabajo"],[425,"Y un mensaje para los chiquitos Ah, wow Aquí aprendí Por lo menos aquí son Los niños son intocables No les puedes pegar, no les puedes Le bañar Este"],[446,"Pero Creo que si hace falta Yo tengo una hija Una hija ya tiene 42 años Creo que la eduqué bien La eduqué La castigué cuando tenía que castigarla Pero después y después mucha comunicación con los niños Los niños especiales requieren comprensión y tratar de escucharlos Si tú te dedicas y trabajas con niños y los escuchas, que sea Pregúntale cómo te sientes, cómo estás aquí, qué problemas tienes y escucharlos antes de hablarles, primero escúchalos abiertamente y eso lo hacía yo con mi hija, por cierto, yo me sentaba, ella me preguntaba, estaba jugando dominó, estaba jugando con amigos, en bares, familiares y cuando ella me preguntaba la tontería que fuera, yo la, yo, espera un momentico, ¿qué quieres? ¿Qué quieres, mi amor? Mira, muéstrame, prestarle atención, eso es importantísimo, de los niños, de los niños, eso es importantísimo, que tú le des importancia a ese ser pequeño,"],[526,"Igual también si estás en una escuela con niños que tú no conoces, que la primera vez que te conocen, escúchalos. Si te llaman para preguntarte cualquier cosa, presta la atención. Eso es muy importante en todo inicio de la vida. Gracias. ¿Y su nombre? Elios. Gracias, señor."]]},{"id":"Zbt8twkTiWw","slug":"cuba-is-last-in-line-a-conversation-in-denver","title":"“Cuba is last in line”: a conversation in Denver","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[1,"Superar es, por ejemplo, cuando tú, por ejemplo, realizas un examen y no apruebas ese examen, después lo superas. ¿Entiendes? No te ganas. Exacto. Por ejemplo, en China, en muchas cosas se está yendo arriba. Eso es superar a eso. Ah, ya entiendo. Eso es lo que se entiende por superar. Puedo preguntarte como te piensas, como se lleva todo en Cuba. Cuba es como la comunidad primitiva cuando empieza a surgir el mundo. Cuba tiene el uno en todo, pero de atrás para adelante. Una fila, sabe que es una fila? Una fila como personas en una fila. vamos a comprar algo y hay que hacer una fila pero el primero es el que más adelantado está para comprarlo"],[74,"el último de atrás cuba el último que el último de atrás atrás y que es el primero"],[84,"después vienen los demás países porque porque dijiste que es cuba es al final de todos los países es el más atrasado en todo sí y cómo se mira eso es que no sé ni cómo explicar el mundo evoluciona sabe que evolucionar y cuba de ese evolución es para atrás los demás países para antiguo está trampa si es un cognado ya tiene separado va a llegar el momento que va a llegar la si sigue así va a a la era del hacha de piedra I hear you stone age Ya entiendo Pues que necesita que necesitan ahí en cuba En cuba primero se necesita salir de ese gobierno"],[140,"Que no te deja Que no deja, no sé No deja los demás avanzar Que significa avanzar Ir para adelante En todos los campos entiendes"],[156,"Ese gobierno es la razón porque son tan detrás Ese gobierno es un obstáculo para todos"],[166,"Para todos, para todos Y como superaban al gobierno esas personas? Entiendes lo que estoy preguntando? Es que no se ha superado No se ha superado"],[183,"En Cuba todos los días la pobreza es más grande Todos los días hay menos cosas ¿Es inflación? Mira, un dólar americano costaba alrededor de 25 pesos cubanos Tú sabes cómo está el dólar americano hoy y porque lo paga la gente en la calle porque el estado quiere pagarlo menos y por eso no tiene este dinero vale 400 400 miren lo que hizo y dijiste que estaba 2 1 a 2 antes antes y ahora es 4 400 no antes estaba 25 a 1 y ahora es 470 por 1 cuántas veces subió cuando sube tanto no tiene con qué hacerle contrapeso no tiene con qué hacerle competencia en cuba con mira mira las ventajas y las desventajas de cuba en cuba todo es del"],[261,"en Cuba las empresas, las fábricas, las que habían, eran del Estado. Ahí trabajaban los obreros."],[278,"Ahí trabajaban los obreros. El obrero siempre se llevaba algo. Si trabajaban haciendo pan, el obrero se llevaba pan. Si trabajaban haciendo dulce, el obrero se llevaba dulce. Aquí tú trabajas en Estados Unidos, y te pagan por hacer los dulces, pero no te puedes llevar los dulces. ¿Sabes por qué? Porque eso tiene dueño. Pero como ya no tiene dueño, todo el mundo se lo lleva La maquinaria era del Estado, de las empresas Y los gobiernos se la fueron llevando Ya hoy en día las maquinarias están en manos de cualquier persona Si tú trabajas en una compañía aquí, la compañía tiene de todo Pero tú no te puedes llevar nada"],[327,"El dueño de la compañía te paga para que trabajes, no para que roben Y si te agarran robando, ya tú sabes lo que te pasa"],[339,"¿Qué otra cosa?"],[346,"Allí Allí tú sales del trabajo Tú estás trabajando ¿Ahora? Y tú estás trabajando en una oficina o algo Y tienes que pedir permiso Porque no hay comida en los mercados Y de momento traen algo Pero se acaba rápido Porque los que no trabajan Lo compran todo Entonces Aquí tú no tienes esa preocupación Aquí tú sales del trabajo Y pasas por un supermercado Y si quieres comprarle el supermercado completo Lo compras y entonces allí la gente no trabaja casi por estar velando el poquito de comida que sacan. Entiendo. Esa es la diferencia también."],[386,"Llegamos. Gracias. Bueno, hasta luego. ¿Su nombre? Romani. Gracias Romani."]]},{"id":"Gb6r341R2oU","slug":"the-truth-is-a-subjective-format-a-nigerian-answer","title":"Is the truth subjective? A Nigerian answer on the internet","place":"Nigeria","who":"We Them Media","paras":[[0,"Hi, I'm doing these interviews for poidh. It's a platform where people can put up different challenges and questions for the community to answer. This week's question is, has the internet made it easier or harder to get access to the truth? Let me reiterate what you just said. Has the internet made it easier or harder to get access to the truth? It's interesting because the truth is a subjective format. The truth is anything that is set forth by a person. You can tell me your truth, but your truth is not my truth. That is the funniest thing. And I think what the internet has given might not necessarily be easier or harder, but has given different perspectives."],[46,"Because Different People Are Able To Give You Different Varieties Or Different Versions Of The Truth What I've Been Able To Understand Is Piecing Out So Take Everything In A Pinch Of Salt That's Honest Opinion Take Everything In A Pinch Of Salt And Understand Both Parties Understand There's This Side There's This Side And This Side Piece It Out What Is Consistent What Is Not Consistent And From There You Are Able To Now Piece Your Own Truth And Say You Know What I Like This Side More because I see it has, it's more consistent in what it's saying. So for me, it's the internet has given me consistency and I discover the truth. So yeah, that's just me."]]},{"id":"0Wq5Zhyh8YI","slug":"scammers-and-debunkers-a-nigerian-answer-on-the-internet","title":"Internet: truth or misinformation? A Nigerian answer","place":"Nigeria","who":"We Them Media","paras":[[0,"So, today we're doing interviews for poidh, picture it or it didn't happen. The question this week is, is the internet good for spreading truth or misinformation?"],[11,"I would honestly think that it's a tool for both. There's scammers on all parts of the internet, every little nook and cranny and corner, right? So, there's people who run Facebook scams, they cheat you into buying some really cool products primarily because they can game you, like you can be interested in seeing that, like really nice iPhone for like 17k, you'll be misinformed and somebody will run away with your money, but at the same time I feel like there's unequal number of people who are debunking these scams online, people are telling you, art, no, that guy, not good to do any sort of business with him primarily because they are shady, and also resist that good deal for most of the time."],[51,"There's so many misinformation and disinformation campaigns that have been posted online, it could be for politically motivated reasons, I'm trying to one-up a competitor in my own vertical, it could be sales, whatever it is, and in and of itself that makes the internet a tool for misinformation and disinformation, but at the same time, the same way you can find communities that debunk all of this information, there's still corners of the internet where you can actually find the real truth, where you can figure out what way is happening I'm not all too sure about which tool it is specifically, but I think there's a US based"]]},{"id":"PomUOKBoo0k","slug":"the-internet-is-a-double-edged-sword-a-kenyan-answer","title":"Is the internet a double-edged sword? A Kenyan answer","place":"Kenya","who":"We Them Media","paras":[[0,"Hi. So, we're doing some few interviews for poidh. Picture it or it didn't happen. It's a platform where it allows individuals to put up different bounties to ask the community questions or the public. So, the question this week is, do you think that the internet has made it harder or easier for people to get access to the truth? I think the internet is a double-edged sword. So on one end, it's made it a lot easier for you to access factual information. If you do your due diligence through trusted sources, references, and say scholarly works or whatever works from proper research places, then you actually get your data or your true data. So in that sense, it's made the truth more accessible, especially to people who are keen on due diligence."],[51,"But on the flip side, it's also made anyone, a thought leader or anyone to have proven or non-proven expertise in particular subject matters. And so in that way, then it makes it, especially with people who are not proven experts or who come up with things whether in health or in whatever sector, then it's given them a platform to amplify that falsehood even further. So I'd say it's a double-edged sword. For those keen to know the truth, then you actually have it much easier for those who, you know, consume content in whatever form or hear from anyone without, you know, doing the due diligence to find out the truth. And it becomes more of, does more harm than good. Yeah."]]},{"id":"llan_IZSaxI","slug":"the-urban-shamans-of-germantown","title":"The Urban Shamans of Germantown","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"You got to start over. You got to start by press record. Okay. So we are here at the Gria on Maplewood Mall, a historical strip right here in Germantown, in the Germantown area of the city. This place right here, which is the Gria Cafe, was home to many small businesses. This was a wellness facility. So, you know, going inside, you can see that, um, just a lifestyle, she has a lot of good products in there, um, for your aroma health, your hygiene health, um, your appetite, and, uh, she has different miscible herbs in there that, um, anybody can, uh, use, and, um, you know, speaking about way back, uh, the Urban Shamans, Urban Shamans Band have been around since"],[54,"2004. It was an idea that we came up with during community work. We were working in a community in various capacities, developing programs for youth, community development, and we said, you know, what other way that we can use, what ways we can use as a vehicle to reach the people. and right at that time I just started drumming and my brother, Levi, he was a little bit more seasoned in his skill. You know, we hit the streets. We took on the title of Urban Shamas because we thought that the lifestyle in which we were living suited the title. You know, we were brothers who were in tune to our spiritual wellness. Culturally,"],[112,"you know and we were on a path still is on a path and you know we took the message to the street we use the music as a tool to activate people to bring people together all people from all walks of lives we've been invited and some very unique places you know and through through you know the the call you know"]]},{"id":"A8q0J0adLmQ","slug":"social-anxiety-on-germantown-avenue-the-pitch","title":"Social anxiety in Philly: Germantown Avenue","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Yeah, it just, it just like, it like cuts, but I can still connect it. Who is this for again? I have a YouTube page called We Them Media. We Them Them Media. I've been doing like, going out and talking to different people. My audience isn't very big. I'm trying to build like a Philadelphia audience this summer. Right. By kind of going out and talking to different people. So I just walk up and down in Germantown Avenue, show them right now. Ask people different questions. This week, our question is, what do you think about social anxiety? Cool. Man, so, um, mental health, sex, sex. Not always. I do stuff in crypto actually. So we were trying to focus on crypto a little bit. We were focused on information and technology. And we were just talking about how there was like a platform where people get dared to do stuff that normally would make them socially anxious. And we were like, okay, well it would be cool to go and ask people what would they say if we asked about social anxiety. And so we have people actually, my team is primarily in Nigeria. And then I have a few members in Kenya too. And so we're all going out this week to ask that question pretty much."],[68,"What about in Philadelphia? Well, I'm here in Philadelphia. That's what I'm saying. So they're going out as well. We can see the animals from all over here. And you're a one-man team in Philadelphia. Yeah, for right now. But I have some friends that go to Temple, they're shooting some interesting stuff. But I want to make sure that me and my team, who are on here, are more on the same page before I bring anybody else in. I want to make sure that we're all unified, right? I've been around. I've been around. Have you ever met virtually anything? Especially in barbershop, social, mental health, especially in barbershop you need good mental health in the community, ranch off, seeing what's going on"],[115,"See why you don't drop it? See why you don't give folks a phone? You want me to say that? I'll hold it, don't worry"],[130,"It's okay, I'm not You know what I can do? I can just flip it around"]]},{"id":"QkTCh3Wli0Y","slug":"social-anxiety-in-philly-canis-honest-answer","title":"Social anxiety in Philly: Cani's honest answer","place":"Philadelphia","who":"Marissa","paras":[[7,"So this is for We Them Media. My name is Maceo, and I'm here in Germantown. And this week, what's your name? Cani Marshall. Okay. And where are you two from? I am from Montgomery County, but I live here in Philadelphia. I'm from the street. Okay. Okay. And how old are you? um 77 years old okay okay I'm 25 okay okay and so this week's question is what do you think about social anxiety um honestly as a person who has social anxiety the thing that I think about it like I just feel like I don't know I feel like a lot of people have it I'm a lot of people that I do"],[54,"know like they have it and it's like like right now I'm like having a hard time trying to like think of what to say is it is it is like one of the hardest things to kind of live with especially if like you are kind of like a people person like you do like people you do want to conversate with people you just don't know how to say things or like what to say so it's like it is hard to live with in a way because like you don't really know how to navigate through things as far as like social interactions and stuff um but yeah that's about that's really all I can really say about it"],[92,"Okay, what do you think about Philly?"],[97,"What do you think people are anxious about in Philly, young people? I think the thing that we are mostly anxious about is just like how certain people will react because some people are nice here and then some people are a little like, like why are you talking to me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like why are you even like trying to have a conversation with me? Like, you know what I'm saying? And it's like I feel like that also like makes the anxiety more for them because it's like I don't know what that person's reaction is going to be They could be on edge, they probably having a bad day and they might take it out on me, you know what I'm saying"],[128,"So you never really know what you're going to get out of the people in this city But I feel like that's just any city like because we're just constantly moving in the city Yes No, that makes sense, that makes sense Are there any questions you want me to be asking people around the city, you think it would be meaningful to be asking people around the city?"],[147,"um i would be asking like what kind of spots to do like what kind of good spots is around here as far as like small businesses because there's a lot of small businesses here in philadelphia like you're gonna see a lot of small black businesses and stuff like that they're everywhere here in philadelphia especially here in germantown that's true you want to shout any out um i don't know any off the top of my head i'm not gonna lie but i have seen some it's like a pink place right here that's like a small business and she just opened that you want to talk about the"],[179,"Barbershop"],[192,"Anthony something else, but yeah, I really can say like I'm like I got I came here when I was 17. So Like my experience is kind of like wishy-washy. There's like it's good and bad Like, I ain't had the best experience, but I also had some good experiences as well, so, but yeah. It was nice to meet you. It was nice to meet you, too."]]},{"id":"cC3MQS8QsD8","slug":"lets-talk-about-eth-around-the-world-with-saltorius","title":"Let's Talk About Eth: Around the World, with Saltorius","place":"Online","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"You guys better have your podcasters, Randy. Let's go. What's up? Welcome, welcome. We're back for another Let's Talk About ETH around the world. We're here with Saltorius. You guys are all doing wonderful today. We'll kick it around the room. How are you doing, Onanji B? Man, I'm doing amazing. I'm doing amazing, family. Last Wednesday in April, let's get it. April's flying by. This whole year's flying by. But, you know, like this group of folks we got right here, everybody's cooking. The whole network's growing, man. Everybody's getting after it. And I love to see it, especially, you know, the state of everything, man. Markets, the world, you know, the builders and the folks that are trying to see people win, society win, communities grow. We're all connecting and connecting like Voltron."],[45,"Man, that's what it's all about. So I'm hype. I'm actually really been inspired this whole, you know, this whole month. So shout out to y'all, man. You know, glad to be here. Maceo, what's good with you, man? What's the word? How are we feeling? I like that. I was posting in the group chat that we're live and then you said we're connecting like Voltron and I said, hmm. So I'm feeling that one. I'm feeling excited. I told you guys like last week that chilling on here with you guys once a week, now almost twice a week is probably the highlight of my week. every week at this point. I feel like it just feels like my bio told me today, he's like, you're a hobbyist talker. And I felt kind of offended. But I do enjoy talking to people I enjoy talking to the most, because I feel like I'm talking about what I'm doing in a constructive, reflective way. And you guys aren't hating on me for wanting to talk. So I, I'm excited, ecstatic to be here. Saltorius, it's great to have you here. I know I got to meet you at ETH Denver this year at the base house and chat a little bit about your game and the different stuff you're working on. I've been using your, your, your, your,"],[105,"or Big Man or something like that. The one where you get, where you get make money. I've been using that one."],[113,"Yeah, I'm, so yeah, anyone doesn't know me, I'm Saltorius, been in the space for quite a while since 2017, but currently I work at a dev shop called the best dev shop called Laser Technologies, where we support some of the biggest crypto shop, crypto companies in the space. But separate from that, I love building mini apps on Farcaster. So I've been on Farcaster for like a year, year and change. And I put out a few mini apps, some better than others. But the most recent one is a game that I made called Among Traders, which we're going to play, I guess, later on the pod. But yeah, just the engineer by trade ship poster by"],[163,"Javi, I guess. So, what does Saltorius mean? Saltorius is actually a nickname my buddies from high school gave me. Like, I used to, I'm a big dude, so and my full name is Sagala, doxxing myself, I guess, but I went by Sal during school and me and my buddies used to just freestyle, hang out, You Know Hanging Out Just Freestyling In The Car Or Something Like That I Was Halfway Decent So They Called Me Saltorius S.I.G. I Like That I Like That I Just Chopped Off The S.I.G. And I Kept Saltorius Like Notorious I Like That S.I.G. I Like It Okay That's Where The Username Came From It's Probably The Best Like Nickname I've Gotten So Are You Going Freestyle For Us Sorry Are You Going Freestyle For Us"],[222,"Nah, man, I gave that up I had to ask, I had to ask I'd be a bad streamer if I didn't ask Nah, yeah, it's great to have you on Saltorius We had a great conversation a little bit ago When you were kind of just starting to release Among Traders I know you probably have a lot more thoughts now A few months down the road But do you want to give us, everyone, a rundown Of what Among Traders is And what we're going to be playing today Yeah, for sure so it's actually funny I didn't really set out to make a game actually at the"],[257,"ETH Denver Hackathon or at the ETH Denver conference there was a hackathon and basically the whole like the track was around building with agents or doing something interesting with agents and I thought an underexplored an underexplored kind of thing was like putting a bunch of agents in a Room and having them deliberate to come to a conclusion about something. I've seen a bunch of stuff like that done in the past and definitely with older, shittier models like GPT-3 days. There's something where these researchers from MIT made a bunch of agent personas and put them in a Minecraft world or something. And they all over time developed their own personalities and motives and assigned each other jobs and did really interesting things."],[309,"stuff like that. So the original hackathon project was really just can I put a bunch of agents into a shared space, a shared digital space, and give them a challenge and then have them completely challenged. And that was kind of where it started. And then over the course of the week, it kind of threw, you know, conversations with a bunch of the other awesome builders who were at at the base house like Bribe, Maceo, Luciano,"],[343,"all the people who were there, it kind of transformed into, what if they like played a game of mafia? So it turned into, you create an agent based on your Farcaster profile. So it'll create a whole identity for you. It'll even go as far as to generate an image of the character and you can join a lobby Bobby, when the required number of people have joined the lobby, everybody's agent is thrown into an XMTP server, and one of the agents is the killer. The killer agent is basically trying to survive to the end, so knocking off other people's agents one by one until they're the last one standing, and all of the other agents are trying to put together the clues"],[392,"Clues that the killer leaves behind and the clues of the overall environment scene to try to deliberate and figure out who the killer is. And as a user, as a player, you control your agent's context pretty much. So each, there are seven classes and you can see more about more of this one like we actually play. There are seven classes, each have different sets of actions, and four verbs, expose, investigate, deceive, and protect. And each of the four verbs has four actions that are different per class. And each one of those actions essentially boil down to, am I strengthening my agent's context or am I poisoning another agent's context?"],[442,"So you can set traps, expose people, deceive people. If you're the killer, that works really well. And then if you die, there's another mechanic where you can play as a ghost. So you can leave clues through messages, text messages, or voicemails. It depends on the scene and the setting and the class that you're playing. but each class's ghost variant has mechanics that kind of help the people who are still alive. And yeah, the object is, if you're the killer, you win. If you're the killer and everybody dies before they figure out it's you, you win. If you're the town and you figure out who the killer is before they kill everybody, then the town wins. Yeah, so that's pretty"],[495,"much the game. It's like, what I was going for is, hang on one second, sorry. You're totally good. I know that call. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, no, it's been really fun to see the agentic context and And now hearing him talk more about the ability to think about memory as like the game asset and like it's not your active actions, but it's like the queue of actions that's coming up. And that's kind of like something. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the context. I was intrigued by that. I was like, oh, you get to poison their context. I feel like that's the whole like propaganda machine universe, right? It's like, oh, we're going to better mess them up right now."],[546,"everybody mess up their context in the sheep but like that's just me like really reducing something rapidly but I was just interested intrigued by that as like the dynamic right either to expand our own knowledge base or reduce other people's or like reduce its validity as like a way to disempower or sorry we're nerfing them with confusion yeah no worries yes little baby Downstairs So I guess I don't know what happened"],[580,"Everything's all good Sorry? How old is the baby? 10 months Okay Yeah, 10 month old baby downstairs So I guess my wife's trying to juggle Something was going on It's all good There you go Hey, Dubs, congrats to that, man Yeah, thank you, W Yeah, of course Thank you, thank you But I forgot what We were talking about the context part being really interesting, being able to poison the opponent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually really funny. That's one of the that's obviously how you have, that's how you, that's your playstyle when you're playing the game, right? What class you pick and how you decide to"],[620,"enrich your agent's context or hurt other agent's context. It also gets really interesting depending on the role that you have during the game. If you're the killer, your playstyle becomes completely different and your approach to how you inject or not different pieces of context becomes like really important. Oh yeah, but I do remember what I was saying. What I was going for with the whole game is this idea of like social deduction games with an AI layer on top. I think that like when you think about like AI in games, it's like in like an RPG or like an open world type of game game where you have NPCs that are AI driven and things are definitely going to get really"],[666,"interesting there as far as more intelligent, better AI systems in those large games, but even for small browser based, phone based, even games that have a different form factor, Twitter, how AI fits into it. And then also the idea that most of what people are doing with agents at the moment are all productivity based. Like, oh, an agent to answer emails for me or an agent that can run a Twitter account for me or something like that, which is cool, but at the end of the day, kind of uninteresting for 99% of people who aren't Constantly working so like this this idea of like Slotting agentic systems into games and I think like social deduction games are"],[721,"The obvious like first step the first thing you can go for I like that. I think that's a that's super interesting. I think you know I align with that heavy is like a lot of people are like I want my bot to do this and this and I was like Those are kind of activities I like like running my twitter account and being social. I kind of like those things I like talking to people. So just seeing like applications where this is pretty interesting. And, you know, I used to, I used to get down on a little, you know, games like this with the homies, you know, back in the day, just IRL, you know what I'm saying? So I think this is going to be really cool. And I never, I never got down on it. So yeah, I think Z is going to, going to coach us all through it, man. I'm excited. But I set up my account here, got my little profile, man."],[771,"Do you want to make sure you have your Farcaster and you want to pull up Among Traders as well? No, I was very curious what was happening. I do have Farcaster open and Among Traders open. Okay, sick. Well, let me pull it up on my side as well. He's got a coach and I say, you know, I think that I'm behind the ball. Now you're good, so check that out Little digital twin, this is All right, Jalen Roll Call Baptiste That's a name That's a name So yeah, I like this little You know, little generated Bio and traits and things And one thing that's actually really funny"],[812,"About this, a quick aside If you read your So if you hit read more and read your character your bio, you might find it scary accurate to how your actual like online persona is. So we did on the first couple of days, Maceo might have been there, but on the first couple of days we were making them for everybody who was staying at the base house and we made one for Bribe. And I don't know if you know Bribe, but he also runs the dude account and his description was so accurate to the point where the description was talking about him making generative NFTs he's based on like how he felt, how he felt the vibe was at the time."],[850,"And as we were reading him the description, that's exactly what he was doing. Like in the base house, he like he was like, I'm going to make this NFT collection every day based on how I'm feeling. And his his character description, like said he was going to do that. It was like really, really scary. And like his character description also said that like he was like super into Palo Santo, like the sage sticks that you burn. and he had brought a bunch of Palo Santo for everybody at the base house. It was really funny. A couple of other people, one of the mini app first drops, were"],[880,"posting their character descriptions and being like, I feel attacked."],[887,"Yeah, that's a funny thing. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah. Runs an after-school tech lab. A repurposed classroom behind South LA Community Center. Yeah. Yeah, man. This is awesome. I dig it. Cool. Oh, real quick before we play too. I wanted to also, so recently I launched a Clanker for this and part of the, it has real implications into how you play the game as well. So I thought it'd be good to kind of explain that as well. So I launched a Clanker token. The idea of the token is to drive the game economy. Previously it was, you could purchase classes for USDC. Previously cards, but now classes. You could purchase"],[939,"them for USDC and it would enhance your play style. While some people did do that, games like this work way better with points like you're earning and spending points. The way the token economy works is you can stake. There's a little wallet thing up at the top. You can stake. You can buy and Stake Your Tokens. When you stake them, you can enter paid lobbies and your pay-in for the lobby comes out of your stake balance. So let's say you stake 50 million tokens and you join a lobby. That's a 1 million token entry. It takes the 1 million from your token balance. So now you have 49 million staked. And if you win, your winnings get added to your stake balance. And if you lose, they obviously get subtracted from your stake balance. And as a staker,"],[990,"All the 20% of the fees that are generated from trading activity on the token goes to the stakers. So you're kind of incentivized. So if you win a ton, if you're good at the game, you can stake, you can increase the stake, the, your stakes balance for free through playing. And then because your balance is increasing, the amount of payouts that you get through the fees coming in also goes up. So it's like a, it's like a, It's like a culmination of all of the different things that I've learned in building mini apps. I think it's kind of a nice system. If it works, the if it works is all dependent on how much volume is driven to the actual token. But yeah, working on different things to do that. But yeah, basically to participate in the game economy, buy some tokens, you can stake them. Staking them enables you to join paid lobbies. And then based on your performance in the paid lobbies,"],[1050,"determines if your stake balance goes up or down. And if it goes up, then you earn more ETH through fees coming in. Interesting. ETH. I love that. I think there's a lot of things we can touch on in that, you know, about let's talk about ETH. So I just started a lobby and while we got people joining in with the three of us, and then I asked Altorius to potentially pop in a couple other AI agents so we could play with a six-person lobby here. Yeah, so we can wait. But while we're doing that, I would love to touch on some of the parts of the ecosystem there you touch on with ETH, right? Like your token itself launched on Clanker, a token LaunchBlood that's on base that has ETH as the token that you're buying and getting money from."],[1103,"Then you also chatted about XMTP, which I think is a great thing for us to dive a little bit more into and what's super powerful there on the protocol level. And then Farcaster as a whole for a social graph, for your AI agent to actually be able to create characters that are scary accurate and the ability to use a social graph. So I'd love to touch on kind of like those three things of this as we're starting to get it ready. And then Onaji, if you want to share my screen. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess the first thing. So Clanker is kind of instrumental to this whole thing working the way. And I think we're talking about sort of using fees in your project to do more than just collect revenue. Clanker makes it super easy."],[1155,"so the way that I personally set it up was when you launch a token you can select wallets that get distributed fees and you can even break it down by percentage. So I have the one percentage going to me or going to me for like operation expenses paying for all these tokens and stuff like that and then I had the other portion going to a smart contract that I wrote where anytime Anytime fees are claimed, the WEF goes directly into the smart contract, and then it gets distributed to the stakers based on how much they have staked. So it's a completely hands-off system. Anyone can claim the fees. I don't have to be the one to do it. If you just go to the token page on Clanker, anytime you hit claim fees, it goes right to the staking contract."],[1208,"contract. And that staking contract is set up and locked. I can't do it. It's an immutable contract, right? So I can't do anything with it. And as part of the larger game contract, it also handles locking and unlocking. Locking and unlocking like stakes balances. So it's all on chain, all viewable for all to see. And then the XMTP piece was, it started, honestly started as being able to hit a track in the hackathon, but it's transformed into something that's that's like actually super, super useful. So like each agent, when it's created, gets a wallet spun up. You need a wallet as your identity to to actually join an SMTP server."],[1251,"But they're all siloed and all all instances within there. So at any point in time, you can go back on chain and see all the messages of the messages that the agents are sending, but then also for like orchestration on like the server side as far as like the technical implementation side of things. It Makes It Really Easy To Feed All The Context Back Into The Agents Without Having To Set Up My Own Like Server Or Web Socket To Be Able To Ingest And Transfer Messages So It Was Really Nice On That Piece So Like I Think Just Building Anything On Chain Like I've Approached It From This"],[1297,"this mindset of like, why, why spend money on like a database or why spend like the time setting up the infrastructure on the database when we have the best database? Maybe not. We have an immutable database that already exists in being on chain. So everything, every project, I try to put as much things on chain and run as much of it on chain as possible just to have that immutability layer. But then, but also because it kind of makes, once you have the right workflow set up, it kind of makes my life, makes your life easier to develop or to like transfer data. Yeah. I have a question, right? I've heard a lot of people talk about application for blockchain for games. I've heard way less conversation around AI and specifically AI agents when it comes to games."],[1347,"Like I've never heard really outside of yourself, people be talking to me about AI agents in video games is like the unlock. And so I'm curious, what are the kinds, like, when you look back at games you've played in the course of your life, where do you see AI agents that have been superimposed to enhance the user experience? Just, like, having what you've been doing? So, I mean, like, when I think about, so, like, immediately the first thing I think about is, like, RPGs, right? Like, I played a lot of, I played, when I was really young, I played a lot of fighting games, like, it's not really there, but then I played a lot of, like, Skyrim, I played a lot of, like, Just Cause,"],[1382,"was a lot of those open world action RPGs. Agents there, conceptually sounds awesome. Like if you could have an NPC that has like a real, a real semblance of intelligence that might, that would do wonders for immersion and like how you actually interact with the game world. Now, technically, how does that work? No idea. I don't know. I don't know if that like we're even close. The economics of it don't really make sense But It kind of goes from being like, you know, choose your own adventure To like, every game is different implicitly Because it's like Grand Theft Auto 5 is now a billion A billion timelines with three primary agents"],[1426,"You can play and take a solo That's pretty crazy So that would be, I think that's like the You know, utopia Like, like ultimate End goal of like, how Agents would interact in like, just purely I feel like that's the font for AI agents to replace people in the real world. Yeah, but then I think about these smaller online browser experiences. There's actually a game called Bot or Not. Oh yeah, I've heard about that. Yeah, Bot or Not. So basically the idea is just a chat window opens, and you're talking to someone who's either a bot or a person, and you have a minute and 30 seconds to talk to them."],[1469,"And then at the end of your conversation, you have to determine whether it was a bot or not. And it's actually kind of hard. And so like, like experiences like that, like online experiences like that, where you can do really creative things like, I'm sure there's like game services that haven't even been thought of yet. But it kind of opens up. So I think there's like that, that one vision of like this super immersive RPG where every NPC effectively has its own inference engine where it can like make this like real impactful decisions on its own um and then there's this other idea where i think we're closer to now is you have these very"],[1512,"very um directed like game loops very directed game flows but have an unagentic component to like to like turn your very linear experience it's like a branching experience that can go one of many different directions just due to the fact that there's like"],[1531,"the the entropy of like talking to an agent where like you could get anything back. No, literally, I do get that. I've been I get that completely. I think that's really cool, though, still, because I feel like that's like there was that game where it was like infinitely generating space universes like like like six years ago. Yeah, 2018, 2019. No Man's Sky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that game was cooked when it came out. Yeah, I feel like this is like what that would look like really at scale. and like with like a render that's like like instantaneous, you know, and actually driving nuance and where the entropy is, you know, as small as the fees on L2."],[1568,"Yeah, that's cool. I appreciate you entertaining my question. Nah, that's a good question. Okay, I joined with, we got six in there. Okay, do you want to pull it up? Absolutely. The server is going to wait a minute so that the last person who joined can choose a class. But yeah, if you hit open change class, there are seven classes plus one bonus class for a little thing that's going to be happening at the end of the week."],[1599,"But yeah, each class has a different play style. You can see all of the classes if you go to this URL."],[1635,"I haven't played a lot because there was a period of time where I couldn't play because my ELO was too low, but I think Saltorius changed that Yeah, because I could I just couldn't get into games because of that. But OK, so safety is a luxury amenity. One stolen credential ended that illusion. Doors sealed, routes narrowed. Every corridor became a checkpoint. Everyone learned how quickly certainty can turn. Then they found the first body. All right, boom. So, throwing right in, that was like a little intro video to set the setting, set the scene"],[1684,"So, you know, as soon as they start deliberating, your action wheel is going to pop up And so, to explain basically how, like, the core game loop works is You have these influence points up top So, every 12 seconds, you get another influence point And then you can spend them on action So, every action costs a certain amount of points And so you're basically deciding whether they're going to spam a bunch of cheap action Reavail, a vent steward, is found dead near a restricted passage Security lockdown conditions have broken timelines And key witnesses disagree on the last clean minute So now the agents start deliberating"],[1728,"You start with two influence points Then if you open up your actions wheel You have four choices that you can make so you might not be able to play anything yet but the way it goes is you pick an action you pick a target and then you pick what you want is this the cost uh so no that button right there is your special each class has a special uh the cost if you can i go back or oh yeah if you go back back to the top right so if you do like investigate for example or any one of them and then click on your target oh i see and then the cost is"],[1763,"is at the bottom of this card. Oh, I see. Yeah. This is interesting. I might get hooked. So you can follow along what the agents are saying, so the agents themselves have agency in that they can read the room, basically they have access to all public, there's public and private information, they have access to all public information and they can, they themselves are deliberating, they're, they have their own motives. There's like an internal pressure system where agents who agents who find a particular agent suspicious can assign pressure to them. But then as a user, when you play actions, you're basically working off that same pressure system. So if you're following along and you think you know who the killer is, you can start, you can start piling on actions to that person and then let your agent take the wheel."],[1821,"But the whole The skill expression that I'm trying to go For here is how well can You drive your agent So your agent has Your agent has control of deliberation Your agent has control of voting How well can you follow along With what's going on and Play actions to like correctly Steer your agent into doing like what you Want him to do"],[1853,"Bless you Bless you Okay I think it would be funny if we read these in our characters, but because my voice was going off, but that was because I was spamming actions. Maybe I wasn't supposed to do that. My friend Ajax asking in the chat, like, so it's like, yes, it's like mafia with AI agents. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You're not in full control, which is the cool part, right? You don't have, you need to convince your digital twin to go the way you believe and maybe you're wrong, but yeah, you might be wrong. And it's not like, it's not like you have to convince them, right? Like they'll do what they, when you play an action, they do what the action says. But again, like you're feeding it as context to an LLM. So there's like a layer of"],[1907,"Of Abstraction Before Like Your Actual Move Gets Played 30 Seconds And So I Was Mentioning This Before The Pod Started But Like Like The The The Difference Between Like Having An Idea For A Game And Like Building A Game That Has Like A Fun Core Game Loop Is Like Very Hard Like As A Tech Demo It's Really Cool It's Really Great But And then you have to layer in all of these other mechanics to make it an actual game so like the resource the influence system like the resources thinking about how you spend your actions and then like actually following along like that. That's the core game that I'm going for. But yeah, and then okay, so we're both the town to be really funny if if whoever sharing is actually the killer, but the killer now as the killer your action wheel will change."],[1973,"to act. You can select who like the next target is going to be. And if the killer doesn't select anybody, then Oh, no, I'm dead. Oh, damn. Crying, dude. Zachariah, Saul, Bellamy, was found collapsed beneath. Oh, never mind."],[1994,"I'm weak. Oh, I don't know if this is because I died. Yeah, no. It's just refreshing. Oh, okay. I see. and then it'll go live. Yeah, a couple of bugs I gotta fix. No stress? That's sick. Yeah, okay. So, was found collapsed behind a glass display case in Founder's Lounge. His jacket stained dark, where a single deep wound pierced just below the ribs. A shattered wine glass laid nearby is condensed bleeding into the polished floor alongside scattered portfolios and tagged prototypes from the donor showcase. Okay, this is long. i'm not gonna read this whole thing this is you're doing a good job you're doing a good job"],[2035,"but you're gonna do it in your voice too it's just so long yeah and so that that's another piece of like there are some people who enjoy like reading a book and there are some and there's i feel like a lot more people who don't so like this is obviously a text-based game yeah sweet so that there are some Some of the abilities to do stuff like generate audio or generate video. I'm going to save up my influence points because I think I have one that generates audio. So the agents have the ability to do stuff like that, like generate security footage showing like corroborating"],[2076,"somebody's alibi or generate an audio thing, which is like a voice memo of somebody who Died. But yeah, it's largely text-based, which is definitely flavors the gameplay."],[2096,"My friend Isaac said, have you found which skill set in an agent is most likely to win? Yeah, like which class? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, so if you're the killer, the provocateur is really good. And if you are the town, medium is actually pretty good because when you die the ghost wheel for other classes is kind of muted, but for medium it's the strongest when you're dead."],[2130,"That's cool."],[2135,"I had blamed someone here. I don't really know who. Then I died. Now people are saying that I was just chaotic. Which was the class, which is interesting But that was also, I think Using somebody's action, so what does The investigate actually do, are you Is that the person asking a question Or is that behind the scenes I know, so it's like a Public, well no, investigation Is a private action It also depends on the class, so like If you"],[2172,"There's a, I don't know if you Can see in that chat that's in StreamYard Or maybe I can share real quick I see it, yeah If you want to share this Oh, actually, I can just pull it up Yeah, so So each class, you can click on the drop-down The view abilities And then it will say what each thing does Oh, wow Each action is kind of dependent on Or each, like, effect For each verb is dependent on the class you're playing I think it was the person I picked"],[2212,"Very cool I Will Switch Back"],[2217,"And So Now People Are Voting On Who To Take Off Marlon Has The Most Heat On"],[2227,"Yeah Marlon's Done Marlon's Dead Rip Marlon Is That You Mateo? I've Been Eliminated Yeah Bro RIP Me Huh Gigi's RIP In Peace Sheesh"],[2243,"Now I Feel Like It's One Of You Two I'm So Confused I'm Not Gonna Lie You were voted off by the people The people thought you were suspicious No, he was killed Oh"],[2258,"So that happened after the vote It's only if it's successful I see Yes, we're both confused But I'm still confused I was pulled off by the clip In secret So there's only two people left There are no three people left So they have to vote the right person Onaji, it's up to you so to me huh yes you can tell us because we're all dead no wait yeah oh all three of us are dead right yeah we're all dead yeah so you can tell us are you the killer are you killing i would i would that's on my screen yeah i mean it would have shown up at some point brother i'm asking you"],[2311,"i guess that would have been helpful information to seek out in the beginning you might not be i I imagine what are your actions right like you would deceive right now. Maybe he is. I don't know. I know who it is, bro. You know who it is? My friend Isaac Talturius, he said he thinks the AI chat is too fast and too much. It's hard for him to keep up with. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the that's a big because in order for them to like get enough information, they kind of have to be talking. but then at the same time it's tough to follow along and then also I think there's a small"],[2347,"bug where it replays the past shots and that might be confusing stuff but yeah that's the big and that's part of designing a good gameplay loop where you have the player actions, you have the action economy but then follow along you either got to be really good at skimming the chat and picking it up or There needs to be some kind of summary system So I'm still working stuff like that out Well, I have a thought My dad, he's like, shout out to him He really likes these AI generated audio books Yeah I throw my hands up, I don't know how I feel about it"],[2385,"He's an actor, he's talking about the scripts and all this stuff But AI audio books, okay But what I was going to say is I feel like this could be kind of a cool meta engagement Right, of like that kind of Could these chats be like turned into Like voiceover type agent like communication and so you're actually listening to an evolving discourse between them in real time and then like it prompts you to respond versus like feeling like you're trying to keep up with the content like I've been pressing buttons but I'm not gonna lie I've been really confused about what I'm doing. Yeah yeah so like like the uh basically the chat being read out to you. But like not even read out to me like as opposed to reading like a narrative it's like almost like the people are talking like I want to be like a podcast like I'm in a podcast. Yeah yeah. I'm in the room with the people in the audience."],[2430,"It would also be cool to hear your agent's inner thoughts. Like you could press a button to swap between the two. So you could either hear everyone else. And like while you listen to everyone else, you can press like, you know, swap and then it switches over to like, okay, like, what am I thinking internally? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Like, it'd be, I think that would help Maceo and, you know, me and whoever else is like new to be like, oh, like, this is like, okay, this is what we're, this is the action I'm doing. And this is why my agent's thinking this. I like that. That's like the first-person script in video games. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. I like that. Here we go again. It's like a GTA 5, right? Oh, okay. Here we go. We got a..."],[2475,"What voice did they choose from that? Okay, so that was a seance. So seance backlash pressure applies. Interesting. one second, 30 seconds. So the three, there's three people left. The two people have to vote on the killer. Otherwise, it's over. Oh, so Torius, my friend Isaac said, can he bet on how it's going? Ah, they found the killer. Which was me. Oh, it was. That's why he got us. Look at that. They got you. They got you. So the question, can you bet on the outcome? Yeah. So there are, if you, if for one of the paid lobbies or if you start a paid lobby, you can open a prediction market along with it, which is basically three questions, like a custom prediction market based on the people in the game or the actual setting."],[2536,"and you can wager the game token on it and it works in the same way as paid lobby so when you wager it takes from your stake balance and if you win it adds it to your stake balance. So that exists right now. I think it's a little underutilized just because I haven't serviced it all that well. Another thing I wanted to do was leverage snaps so that when a game starts a snap gets posted to the timeline then people can just like Yolo bet on the prediction market, something like that. But I think like before any of that, I'm still working out the game move, right?"],[2576,"Like there are things that – there are pieces that are interesting, which is mostly I think fucking with your agent's context. But then the delivery to the player is like – it's this weird combination of things have to be you need enough information to actually give the AIs to be able to play the game, but then you need to streamline it enough to"],[2602,"deliver it to the person playing. Yeah, that's all in all it's kind of hard to make a game. No, but it's kind of cool because even when you were saying that, it made me go back to Zaw, I really like what you said about the inner thoughts. I think that's way better than what I've said. I have another idea on top of that. Before you even go there, I was going to say that I think then like that snap could be like the game commentators. Like you're actually in a third person window and they're talking about what's going on. So you're still getting like a chat conversation"],[2633,"that's not like a lot of stuff to ingest. And now you're like, you're almost like a poly market on the likelihood of certain outcomes happening that are inevitably only possible given certain things happening to make them possible. But people could still gamble on things they make up themselves and how could that influence the agent's choices and the context in the game. I don't know, it could be kind of arbitrary but it could be cool if that market could actually influence the game in a randomized kind of way I love that Yeah, no, I was thinking it would be really interesting as a user one thing you can't do in games"],[2667,"like this sometimes is actually contextualize all of the memory and information and like not repeat information because you don't know you learned it already like let's say at the very beginning someone claims that they went from XYZ to XYZ place and then they change that multiple times or whatever, the ability to potentially as a user query that context or visually potentially see something could be really interesting because it's something that you get that you don't have an opportunity in any other game because it's kind of all in your brain. so like having some kind of documentation and visual like representation of like what context you have learned by asking things I think could just be beneficial too right yeah yeah it's fun it's actually really really uh really nice to see um this live because I actually have like I did a live play test when it first came when it first when I like first released the mini app and I got like some really good feedback but I haven't"],[2734,"like actually seen anyone else play the game so this is this is true yeah yeah we're in here hell yeah well uh i was curious if you wanted to share any last things any any last final words notorious as we're uh getting to the end here or any any other questions from um i have questions honestly so we want to say final things about the game before i kind of shift yeah i guess i guess final things about the game. A lot of work was done up front to make the economy and the ecosystem work. And so as I learn more and as I get more feedback, game loop is going to improve. And I think that this is a very new sort of, I think the surface area for these agentic experiences within games are"],[2792,"Something that's super underexplored and I'm excited to do that. But more generally, I've said this a hundred times on a few different podcasts. Farcaster is by far the best place to build. You can have an idea or something and have it up and running in a couple of days and then get your first hundred users a couple of days after that. And it's just really, it's really, I'm having a ton of fun on Farcaster. So yeah. Fuck yeah Well, I kind of Do you want to see them, Brian? I was just going to say, is that the The best place to contact you and stay"],[2833,"Yeah, yeah, yeah Southsawyer.eth on Farcaster DMs are open Tag me, whatever"],[2841,"I'm What do they call it? Terminally online So, I'll see it"],[2847,"I think that's true I was going to ask you, like, how long you been In the Ethereum ecosystem? How long you been and Building on Chain."],[2855,"Since 2018. So I got into crypto as like a degen trader in 2016 and then very quickly realized I can't trade. So I was already professionally, I was already doing some like software development stuff, more on like the automation side. But I kind of Learned about I obviously learned about Bitcoin first But then learned about ETH and learned about Effectively programmable money And I went all in Pretty much I was working in investment banking at the time I quit my job and I went all in To working in Web3 What would you say to the Average American on the corner who heard you Say programmable money and was like"],[2902,"What did that mean?"],[2907,"I would say a lot I would say I would say I think for like the average, the average person when it comes to money, it's really how can I get more? And there are maybe now isn't the best time to kind of espouse this. But there are financial tools available to the average person that previously were gatecapped by loans."],[2940,"The fact that I can take some amount of ETH or any asset and put it up as collateral and get a loan on it without any intermediaries is huge. And the fact that I can, you know, lend out my assets and get a real return on it better than any bank account would ever give me, that's huge. And I think that for the average person,"],[2969,"Obviously, we have a bit of ways to go as an industry to like really not only on the security side, as we've seen with like all the Aave stuff and layer zero stuff over the past couple of weeks, but also on the usability side. But then also, yeah, the education side, like why should you as a person have to talk to some guy from some bank in order to like in order to get a lot if you have the collateral to do it, then you should just be able to do it. and there should be no intermediaries. So that's the biggest, that's the biggest sell for me."],[3002,"That's what I tell my family at Thanksgiving when they ask what I'm up to. I'm like, you like, you ever heard of crypto? But yeah, that's my pitch. I love that. I appreciate that. And then I have one follow up, right? Cause this, this podcast, I kind of initially was thinking, right, who benefits from how Ethereum is being built, you know? And is this technology fulfilling, fulfilling on its mission? It's kind of like a through line. we hit some episodes and miss others, but I've been thinking a lot more like how do we kind of make sure it's consistent? So I'm curious for you. Do you feel like Ethereum is doing what you think it was designed to do?"],[3037,"Broadly, yeah I'm a broad sense. Yes"],[3045,"Permission being able to permission permissionless. So before it's actually done Before I joined Farcaster before I was working at laser I Used To Run A Tournament Platform Called GU Stakes It Was Like The Community Tournament Builder For The Web 3 Trading Card Game Gods And Chains So Before They Were Trying To Run A Competitive Esports League And They Were Hiring Tournament Admins That Had No Idea About The Game They Didn't Know Any Of The Rules They Didn't Know Anything So The Integrity Of The Actual Matches Was Pretty Low someone would cheat and the moderators wouldn't know the rule set so they would get moved on. I built a tournament"],[3090,"system that basically plugged into the game's API and had concrete code rules that allowed or banned certain sets or basically moderated the game for the community. On top of that, I built the payment rails for being able to join a tournament with crypto and and then have those funds be held in escrow and then pay out the winner. And then that started as like one V one bets, right? So like you would put up 10 bucks, I'd put up 10 bucks, we would play and then the winner would get the pot. And I started that, I did that over time, like it's been running for around like four or five years,"],[3132,"hundreds of thousands of dollars over the course of this, of that time have run through those contracts. And when I was starting, I kind of, I was learning solidity and I was really starting on my own. I was thinking, if I wanted to do this without crypto, I don't think it would be possible. I don't think I'd actually be able to make this. It was just somebody who enjoyed the game and wanted to build something cool on top of it, and I could. It has led me into all the other cool experiences that I've gotten to do. I got to speak at NFT NYC twice or three times because of"],[3170,"of just that one little, oh, I think this is cool, maybe I can make it, oh, I can, and then it's just a cascading series of events like that, where it's like, oh, this is cool, can I do it? Oh, I can, oh, it's super easy, oh, I don't have to ask anybody. So I think that, more than anything, has been, I guess, a goal of Ethereum that has definitely been reached. you can permission is permissionlessly do anything and generate real value off of just an idea. And it's a real meritocracy in that the best ideas generally rise to the top."],[3211,"Well said, I like that. I would agree. I think they're the stickiest, right? Like nobody wants to hang out around something that's boring and it doesn't make money in the casino of like every day. Somebody trying to get you to come over here and make money and have fun. It's like, when Lambo Everybody's like, where, where, where I feel like it's kind of like Yeah, but I think this What you're doing is really interesting, and I think experimenting At this intersection is particularly Interesting as well Yeah, and You know, I'm a serial tinkerer So There'll be more, there's more Projects that I have in mind, have in the works"],[3250,"Some particularly Interesting that I'm actually Really excited about So keep a look out It's not a game It's a bot Okay Like a feed bot, like a bot in the feed? Yeah, bot in the feed Okay, that's lit I'm excited about that Me too We're ready for the bot in the chat That's what I have to say Isaac said, when does the app launch on the App Store? This app? Yeah Not for a while, brother Well, that's kind of the beauty of it You can't really just launch an app on the App Store Yeah, you have to, especially if there are crypto elements, like you have to jump through hoops. And even just to get like a test flight app up, you have to pay $100 to get Apple developer account, which is like, in the grand scheme of things, not that much, but it's still, you can't just go do it. Like you gotta, you gotta come through through Apple."],[3306,"Well, I'm even saying to create your digital twin, you need your Farcaster social context. Yes. So one thing that I did do early was I made hooks to be able to create one using a Twitter account as well. But the Twitter API is dummy expensive. So I don't know. I don't know."],[3327,"I have a plan. I think, you know, definitely, I think that it works well for Forecaster because of the concept of mini apps being in feed, the concept of the social graph, like being able to use and build on top of the social graph. With Twitter, I think it's a completely different strategy. So yeah, at the moment I think making the game experience Way better Is the move And getting a bunch of that feedback From Farcaster Is the obvious place to do it And then expand from there Once the game is super solid Once you can hop in And know exactly what's going on Without being like"],[3375,"I'm spamming actions I don't really know what's happening"],[3380,"No, but Isaac's asking about it Isaac, you have a Farcaster account, you're a Waffle House from a Farcaster, I don't know, he's saying all that like I didn't set him up, I set him up"],[3390,"That's awesome But yeah, no, it was awesome having you, Saltorius, it was great to run a game a game playthrough definitely excited to dive deeper one of the things I was thinking was, I think though I have had positive experiences spamming things and not knowing like exactly what I'm doing. I mean it's not the best to play Smash doing that but like I can have a positive experience just button mashing, right? So I do think there is a valuable space for that as well. Yeah. Yeah. Maceo, do you want to close us off? I'm going to hit you with one more question. Okay. We've been going out and doing like video journalism"],[3434,"bounties kind of and so using poidh, Pixar didn't happen and Well, essentially like go out and shoot videos and ask these different questions. Right. And so we have a different questions up right now. We have one go find someone who remembers which Onaji submitted to shout out be where people can go out and interview somebody over the age of 75 and ask them, you know, how have they seen the world change and how has the world changed them? And I'm curious in that kind of vein, what's one take or question you'd want to go out and have us farm the world for so you could see across contexts. Oh, command or perspective on something."],[3467,"What's your question for the world That's a good question"],[3475,"That's a really good question Maybe honestly, you know what You know what's funny, I've seen so much Like I see I see this on Farcaster all the time Where people are like People are like I pull like A random poll has been like 70% of Americans Hate AI, and then they're like What? How? Because like everybody Pretty much on Farcaster, but like even Twitter, too, are in this bubble where everybody, every one of us are using every day in some capacity to like, like if like the on like the top end of the distribution, like everybody else is not using it at all. So maybe like how do you feel about AI generally?"],[3516,"How do you what is what is your what is your opinion of AI and how it's being and how it's going to affect everybody's lives in the next three years? because I think that's a very funny a very funny like very funny opposing views where people hear to see that and they're like how how is that even possible AI is the best thing that has ever happened ever but you're like the 10% of you're in the 10% of people who think that and you think everybody thinks that because every online space that you're in are filled with other people who are completely AI pilled So yeah, I think that'd be cool"],[3557,"It'd be interesting Okay, we asked that actually early on But we didn't really have participation at scale And I feel like now we have people Who are going out in Kenya on Sunday People in Nigeria have been going out I've been going out My friend Devin's going out tomorrow So he says, I'm holding him accountable This is our week So I'm going to push it out there Thank you, man But with that, I really appreciate you coming on The Let's Talk About ETH Around the World podcast Shout out to you I know you're Globetrotting right now I'm going to be in France tomorrow I'm going to be in Rome"],[3590,"On Sunday For Farcon So that's going to be fun A little traveling for me next week or so And then I'm locked in Locked in for the next couple months Hey man, well go get inspired man Thank you so much for taking this time with us You got it all going on And you still come in here and spend some time with us And let us play your game with you So it's an honor to play with you Yeah, and thank you guys Thank you guys for having me on, thank y'all for playing Got a lot of good A lot of good data, so Games won't be that much better"],[3622,"Let's go, it's an iterative Season, yes sir Awesome, alright, I guess I should count us out Thank you everybody for coming and watching Another episode of Let's Talk About ETH Around the World We're having a good time We're having a good conversation and we're letting people Know the world computer is here to stay And make a big difference, let's go, thanks for Watching, peace, alright"]]},{"id":"RGWKMCAPW3s","slug":"whats-your-most-controversial-opinion-times-square","title":"What's your most controversial opinion? Times Square","place":"New York","who":"Maceo & Isaac","paras":[[0,"What's up, guys? I'm Maceo. I'm out here in Times Square with Isaac on the camera, shooting with We Them Media. We show up, we shoot wherever we're at, and today we're shooting content for Deech and asking people what's their hot take, what's their controversial perspective. I hope you're ready. You want to get it on? The fuck? I'm like that, bro. I'm like that. What's up?"],[23,"We're here trying to learn about what the people are thinking about in these spaces, what's on their minds, what worries them at night. you know, yeah, can you guys come in my name's a five word my name P.G. You're talking all right. We're asking people today what the most controversial opinion is"],[55,"the Yankees the niggas a win in decades both why everybody just be took my other sports you 2-0 right now, we're going for three, we're going to win in 30 years. We want to ask people what their controversial opinion is. No, I want to ask you for money. Okay. Give me five dollars, then I'm going to talk. No money, no honey. What if I just gave you my attention? I don't care for your fucking attention, I need the fucking money. Okay, for what? What do you need the money for? Buy food. What's your most controversial opinion?"],[106,"The only difference between Bulgarians and Romanians is that Bulgarians are closer to Turkey, that's it Summer should be five or six months long. What would you do if you had two or three extra months of summer? How would you make it educational? How would you make it useful, productive? Sports, summer school programs."],[134,"It's always crowded here. Trains, the streets. Is it too much? It is too much, especially on the weekends. What do we have to do about it? What can we do? How can we get the people to leave? Eating the bacon, egg, and cheese or bravo? Oh, you like that? With what? With bravo. That's what I thought you said. Yeah, yeah, that's definitely a hot take. Let's keep going. Let's keep going I'm not saying nothing. What's a hot take? Walking in Times Square, stop being on the way. That's all. Stop being in the way, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep walking. Dad, like it's not traffic out here. Yeah, yeah, it's fine, sorry."],[166,"Alright, you got anything you want to say?"],[176,"I think that eventually the whole world is going to be against America and say we can't have this no more. This is not what democracy is. It's a disappointing democracy. We don't want no more wars for Wall Street, for the corporation because it's not going to benefit the people in America. It's going to benefit the corporation. It's going to benefit the corporation. It's going to and it's gonna profit the Wall Street people. I just think the FIFA World Cup is a big scam with the ticket prices and stuff. And the FIFA president is an asshole for the prices he has right now. I guess Canada becoming the 51st state."],[213,"You don't feel like that's right? I think it is right. I'm from Canada and I want it to happen. Why? I just feel like there's more opportunity in the U.S. than there is Canada. And what do you think is the benefit to Canadians beyond that? how does that translate the dollar value hmm you think the currency of Canada should be the dollar yeah You don't believe what's the Canadian currency now? It's the Canadian dollar, but it's terrible Inflation is really bad in Canada. Yeah And you believe the dollar won't inflate in the same way it might but our dolly Trump has offered to go dollar for dollar if we didn't decide to"],[249,"Convert into Americans. Okay. I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I appreciate it man. It's nice to meet you. Absolutely I love spoiling the movies or the series. I love knowing what's going to happen before it happens. For yourself, okay. Yeah, for myself. Okay, okay. Yeah, okay."],[270,"You can say it in Spanish. I'll go back to what I'm going. mmmm es muy desprevenido pero de pronto cuando las mujeres se aburren de un hombre siempre van a buscar una segunda opción a silencio mmmm you speak in my heart I appreciate it I think that we should get rid of gender identities instead of having like individual ones for people because like the reason they have those So those communities exist But they're actually like restrictive On what people Like can believe and stuff So I think the whole point of it is to be accepting Of everybody Instead of like categorizing everyone It's dividing, you know"],[317,"I get that, I get that We are not real humans, man We're not real humans? Nah What do you think we are? I mean, we are real humans The government is not So like That's what I think The government is not real humans? Yeah It's like aliens They're controlling us Of course Okay His honor is overrated Okay, okay Yeah What should we focus on? Creativity and building your own style Okay, and how's that going for you? It's going great So what we got on today? What we doing today? You know, it's got some Nova men You know what I'm saying? I got the little sponsorship from Nova men"],[356,"So just Nova men at the bottom Little LA hat, calm shit You know, that would be bad Yeah Okay, is it an LV bag? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought the designer was overrated. Clothes."],[369,"Bags and shoes, I'm going for. Okay, okay, okay. Accessories, I'm going for. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, you have any advice for the people in New York? Uh, stay true to yourself, you know what I'm saying? It's the biggest city, just keep grinding, and there's a lot of people to meet, network. Okay, where can we find you? Uh, bkjustin on Instagram, everywhere else, literally. Oh yeah, appreciate you."],[394,"It's not controversial, it's the truth. I mentioned the scriptures in the book of revelations and everything that's happening in today's world happened in the Bible, you know, everything that's new under the sun. So I'm not surprised, you know, I just really hope people come together and really true love for humanity. Humanity as human beings, you know what I mean? So people are just waking up the world and just loving, you know, and uniting. You know, So just under love, just under that umbrella of love, I don't know if that's controversial. Compassion. And love, and serving another just because of a human being, you know, that's it. I think it's called the fruit of the spirit, you know what I mean? It could be controversial because some people call it religious, I call it the way of life, you know what I mean? So yes, I do live it religiously, so call it controversial, I just want people to love, so yeah. Amen, well I appreciate that. What about yourself, man? You got a hot take for the people? You got a controversial opinion? You got a message for the world?"],[449,"Oh man, eat clean, stay healthy, man. That's the motto I live by. You know, health is wealth. I'm just big on, like, you know, be mindful of what you put in your body. You know, be mindful of what you drink. Be mindful of what you say. You know, so we're all about living in a healthy mindset. So that's my message. Fahrenheit instead of Celsius, Celsius just makes a thousand times more sense, let's be honest, but you know, you guys use Fahrenheit, you do you I guess, that's really it, I mean, very different to the rest of the world. I'm here with my daughter, she is very lefty and I'm right, so she loves the governor here, and I really like Donald Trump, so..."],[497,"The Governor is who? The Governor here in New York? Yeah, who's that? I don't even know who he is. Okay, me too. Why do you like Trump? Yeah. Because I feel like he really, really cares for this country. And he is doing things that the other presidents have not had the guts to do. And I feel like he really cares, like he's taking care of the country."],[530,"And when you think of like the biggest things that he's done that like make you feel that way like what comes to mind?"],[538,"When it comes to immigration he is like really taking care of that Alright man, what's your most controversial opinion?"],[546,"Modern day hookup culture, we need to be, what's the word? End it? Yeah, we need to end it. It's getting stigmatized. Yeah, it's too stigmatized. It's getting crazy. It's ruining dating. It's ruining getting to know people. It's a mess. Have you participated in hookup culture before? I try not to, because I don't like it. That's good. That's good. You want a wife? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When do you think you want to get married? Um, soon, man, you know? Soon. Yeah? I think it's better to get married young, you know? Does it scare you? Does the commitment scare you? Um, a little bit, but you know, like, that's what comes with life, marriage, all that stuff."],[580,"Sacrifices. Yeah, exactly. I'm gonna show these guys. How are you guys doing? Good. How are you? We're good. We're asking people what their most controversial opinion is. What's your controversial take? I don't think women should be able to drive. Yeah? It's too many? There's too many. Okay. It's too many. Jews had a lot to do with the slave trade. They don't get enough recognition for it. Okay, okay, okay. I just think that's it. Okay, I hear it."],[611,"I think people need to fight for straight rights more. I see a lot of people fighting for gay rights. They need to fight for straight rights more, you know? That needs to be fought for more. More people need to fight for straight people, you know what I'm saying? Fight for innocent assholes, you know what I'm saying? At least for men, you know what I'm saying? Fight for your asshole virginity, you know what I'm saying, fight for straight men, you know what I'm saying Straight rights needs to be fought for more We're being oppressed out here For six years For six, seven years, hold up, Obama was here how long ago?"],[646,"Whenever Obama was here, they started doing gay rights ever since then But they're not fighting enough for the straight people You can't even get a job Only gay people get jobs I ain't say that"],[661,"Yeah, we need to fight for more straight people, bro. Facts. That's my controversial finish. I just personally think that Morocco will win the World Cup. Okay. Definitely. A lot of people are saying they're not, but you know they will. Wall Street is going to go up forever. Wall Street is going up forever? It's never going to stop. Because, like, who the fuck wants to go to zero? I think Michael Jackson is very overrated. I think the guy was just Okay for his time and people didn't really see something like that outside and we're like, oh my god Michael Jackson But I feel like if he wants to be singing right now, he'd just be mad as hell and no one would even watch"],[702,"I mean, it doesn't you know, not many people are gonna agree, but I just it is what it is I mean, maybe we're not giving his team enough credit, right? Yeah, yeah, I think so. He was never one man show to begin with. That's that's kind of my take Okay, sing us one Michael Jackson song."],[718,"You know what, he's so overrated, I don't even know any songs from him. We are the world! No, no, no, no. He, for me, I'm never gonna sing a song of this. Alright, sing us one Kendrick song. Uh, you know, niggas gotta pop out and show. Oh, I like that, sometimes you gotta pop out and show niggas. We have all live in peace. No matter what color, no matter what race, I mean race, no matter what religion, we have to be all live as in peace and that's what I believe We're from Chicago. I think Chicago is better than New York. Oh yeah, you win. That's all."],[757,"Pineapple doesn't go on pizza. Okay, we got that today. Okay, I like that. I like that. That shouldn't even be a hot take. Pineapple doesn't go on pizza. I take fruit. It goes really well with salad. Oh yeah, she likes fruits with salad and what are you saying? She likes sweets with like spice in it. Ok, ok Yeah, no, that's a hot take That's not my power Right, right, that's not my power either So I guess my controversial thing is I believe aliens are on Earth with us A mi por ejemplo esto no me gusta La masificación, la... Osea realmente yo creo que es de los monumentos o de las cosas turísticas peores que vi en mi vida"],[794,"Times Square Porque es cuatro pantallas LED Nada más, sabes? Puedes ver monumentos espectaculares, edificios espectaculares en New York And this, the popularity makes everyone come here, you know, if we are from here, we are like bees in a nest So, for me, it's the worst of New York Times Square Because for me, it doesn't have a lot of attractive, to see some public screens, I mean, it's not... And you?"],[830,"It's a microphone"],[836,"I think Pineapples belong on pizza. Yeah, it does. Okay. Two more. We got two cents. People said not that today. Yeah, Israel controls America. Okay. Water should be free. Water should be free. I think that's a good controversial question. I don't think people should have to pay for water. It's a necessity. At least water. Like food, okay, but water, definitely a necessity. Facts. They want us to starve out here. They want us to die of thirst. This is for Newark. It's probably going to win the championship. But I think we can solve a lot of those problems by doing a little bit of very bad things."],[872,"Okay, like what? Like what is it in El Salvador? You know, like... Incarcerating a lot of these gang members, they murder a plummet. That's my hot take. Okay, okay. And how does that apply in Scotland? In Scotland? It doesn't apply in Scotland right now. People would run amok. You can steal from shops, no one can stop you. The security guards can't do fuck all."],[899,"There's a lot of crime. Less than 1% of people commit over half all the crime. Imagine. Hell yeah man, appreciate it. It's nice to meet you. Enjoy your time in the city."],[912,"Cereals first or the milk first? Into cereals. And where do you go to? I go with the milk first. I think the milk first. And you? I think I go cereal first, but maybe I'll change my mind. I'm going to try it out. I'm open minded. I appreciate it, man. What's your name? Get it off your chest. Get it off my chest. I like President Trump. Okay, talk about him. I just think that he's the, you know, we do, there's a lot of policy things that are going on. There's a lot of bureaucratics when it comes to that. I like a person that speaks his mind."],[946,"I feel like prior to President Trump a lot of racism was taking place, but it was behind your back I'd rather that be in front and when he became president that was in my face So I'd rather know rather than not knowing it's being done behind my back. Yeah I like knowing where people stand and that's why I like him. So you feel like he's racist overtly He's not racist, but a lot of people have been able to display their racism You feel like he's giving them a license to be authentic and you appreciate that it gives us the reality check Yeah, let's get that reality check. I also do think that"],[979,"What was I going to say? Oh my gosh. He gets the work done. His policies are aggressive, but we got to trust the process to them. What's your very policy of his?"],[991,"It's not a favorite, but immigration has been a big thing. Immigration, the immigration pipeline has been, what's the right word to say? It's Been Piled Up And I Think A Better System Is What He's Working Towards Is Not Stopping Immigration But In Order To Fix The House You Gotta You Know Put A Paws To It Clean It Up And Then Open The Door With Policies That Are More Effective And I Think That's What He's Doing At Least I Hope That's What He's Doing Yes A Lot Of Immigration Is Stalked But You Gotta Clean Up The House First Before You Start Letting People In Better Policies Will Be Bet Will Be Placed In Positions And Then That Would Help"],[1030,"with sufficiency that's being done. I worked, I work with refugees and immigrants. We've done great work but we didn't have enough resources to help them once they get here in terms of how we take, how we probably take care of them. And we also have to remember how to also take care of the people that are already in this country. So I think it puts American people first, which is good. You have to, you can't just have people come into your home when your home is not being placed first. I appreciate that. and I am a refugee and immigrant. I can speak on this. I am from Congo."],[1062,"Okay, I got you. Birmingham, Alabama is underrated. I'm from there. Food scene, incredible. Okay. James Beard award-winning chefs, incredible. Sushi, southern comfort food. I gotta check out Helen. Cocktails, immaculate. And we've come a long way since our very troubled past. Oh yeah, so what's integration there like now? It's, I mean, we're not quite as maybe progressive as New York City is, but it's come so far since I grew up there. I mean when I was growing up, you know My grandparents are great-great-grandparents don't go downtown that kind of thing But the art scene is incredible. The music scene is incredible. Me and my crew are part of that. Oh, yeah"],[1098,"It seems incredible. Oh, yeah, yeah Hey new band coming out check us out j. Clyde j. Clyde named after a famous bar in Birmingham that burned down recently Spill it J the letter J. Yeah, I got C L Y D E Check out We Them Media, Subscribe I feel like Brazil, and a lot of people be saying like Brazil's gonna make it to the final, I don't think they are Oh, that's not real, it's Cap In my opinion Okay, why is that? Because, like, just cause they took so many World Cups in the past, this new generation, they're not gonna be, you know They're not letting them have it?"],[1131,"No, no, okay, thank you 최근 한국 1부 투표소에 투표용지가 부족하여 시민들이 투표를 하지 못하는 상황이 발생하였습니다. 이는 명략한 투표권 침해입니다."],[1169,"As an educator and mother, I am baffled that people put more time, energy, money, and love into animals than in human beings. Why do you think that is?"],[1192,"Well, because human beings, we are challenging, we have an opinion, we talk back, we don't always listen, we do what we want to do, and we can't be controlled, right, and animals can't. Yeah, we take the easy way out. Yeah. I like that, I like that. Thank you all so much. Thank you guys. I think I do have one. Okay, run it. You know I am tired of people saying that their favorite spice is Caprica"],[1237,"Damn she said y'all don't even know what you're talking about All right, thank you all that people are hating on Trump big-time big-time. He's been one of the hottest fixer today Yeah, it's unbelievable how people hate him, but I just want to remind everybody that he lived in New York City, I lived in New York City, and when he was in New York City, he was a liberal, big-time liberal, and then he was watching the whole country for many years, and then as an older gentleman, he decided to change to be a Republican, to run for president, and then because of politics, everybody, except for my conservative people, really started"],[1273,"I hate him and the Democrats do a really great job of putting out their message that he orange man bad and a lot of people they just fall for it and I got to remember he was a liberal just like that. That's my hot take. I want to say that a prison in my room, prison of France, it sucks. It's like a bad prison. It does nothing for people. It just increases the depth of France. So yeah, I would like to say that. For sure. For sure. Like a conspiracy theory kind of thing? Definitely. Okay, I saw this online recently, and I kind of believe it, that Disney World and, like, amusement parks are the only places that have chicken, no, not chickie legs, turkey legs. So, like, where's all the other turkey legs? Like, why does nowhere else have the turkeys?"],[1331,"What do you mean? Like, only turkey legs are at Disney. I've never seen them anywhere else. You see turkey wings, not turkey legs. Okay, and so where are they all going? I don't know, see that's the thing. I just feel like, I just want racism to stop. Your hot ticket is racism needs to stop. I just feel like, you know, everyone should love all, you know what I'm saying? Everyone is here independently, trying to, you know, maneuver, and I feel like we should all treat each other kind. Amen. You know what I'm saying? Jigs up! BX, BX, you better know. Okay. Nobody's perfect, and don't let people's opinions get to you, because a lot of times, a lot of the shit people saying you about, like they can't handle what you go through for real, can't even walk in the shoes, like, but not just that, like, sometimes I just don't care what people say for you, right, come on, I catch myself sometimes caring what people say, but nowadays I've been free ever since I just don't care what people think about me, and I just pray to God and just do what"],[1408,"Free Game, I like that I think as a species, humanity, I think we peaked with cylindrical meat I think, I don't think we're ever gonna get better at making food than cylindrical meat, processed meat, just like anything that's shelf-stable, Spam, hot dogs, like all of it, right? Slip chips. I think it's just, it's a marvel of engineering. Like, if we as a species need to be hunter-gatherer, like just trying to survive, just trying to multiply, I think cylindrical meats, processed meats, I just think that's like, we're never gonna do better than that. We could do fine dining, we could do like all this like great like a prairie and stuff, but I think we peaked a long time together"],[1455,"Donald Trump is a good president Yeah? That's probably like the most controversy Can I ask why? Nothing from New York man, you alright Alright I used to sell tickets in front of Trump Towers when I was a kid, every time he used to see me, he'd give me a hundred dollar tip Really? Wow Last time I saw him, he said, pull your pants off, you can't sell tickets with your pants hanging off your ass It's really cool You always give me $100 every time I see you Really? It was 1999 before The Apprentice That's crazy That's a banger testimonial Yeah, it was 19 years old"],[1488,"People have been hating on him all day Hot take, Donald Trump All day, but he was cool And this was before And he went down with everybody Before he returned Republican Yeah When he returned Republican Then he was racist But before that he was hanging with Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson, Don King Everybody, all the black people I got a picture of him hugging Shabba Ranks You know the Jamaican DJ? Shabba Ranks, the ugliest, blackest motherfucker in the world, he's hugging him But all of a sudden he's racist I don't know, but from my personal experience with him 1999, 19 year old selling tickets in front of Trump Towers"],[1523,"Every time I seen him, he gave me a hundred dollar bill Put his arm around me Sweating, I'm out there sweating all day He's so racist, he's touching a 19-year-old black kid with sweat all over Hell yeah It doesn't make sense, you know? Joe's Pizza is not it, I'm so sorry Okay I'm not getting the best pizza in the air I agree It's okay, it's not cheap It's not bad, but like everybody's making lines and stuff But like, I get it, really How'd you call it? Your hot steak Your hot steak? All Filipinos are not short, they're not short They're tall, we're tall We're tall"],[1558,"We're tall. We're brain tall. Hell yeah. Yeah, we're brain tall. We're like six feet. It's fake news. Yeah, it's fake news. It's fake news. All right. You guys got a controversial opinion? I got the Nixon floor. That's not really controversial. No. You got it. We got it. Got to. Got to. Controversial opinion? No. My bad. Controversial opinion. Controversial opinion. You got a hot take you on on cam? He's the best looking man to look for you. Best looking man. Come here. Wow. Why are you mucking? Why are you mucking? He's mucking. He's mucking. He's mucking. He's mucking. So we're asking people, do you have any controversial opinions, anything you want to say to the city?"],[1599,"Shannon Brussens is better than women. And it may be controversial, but we're looking for it. My guess is why are they messing with the Iranians and they should bomb them and get it over with. I was based in Iraq for a year and I spent two years in Afghanistan. Every word they say, every word they breathe, everything they do is a lie. Hold on. And all they're going to do is lie to you because all they're doing is delaying you, hoping that the administration will change, Death Will Happen, Public Opinion Will Go Their Way, And They're Back Doing The Same Thing They Were Doing The New Yorker."],[1627,"They Need To Get It Over With. People Especially In This City Don't Understand When Somebody Like That Gets A Nuclear Weapon, What's The Number One City In The World For A Bomb To Go Off In? I Was There, I Know What They Want To Do, Their Whole Cultures To Bomb This Place. That's All They Care About, They Don't Care About The Daylight, Their Families, All They Want To Do Is Destroy. So sorry, that was very controversial. I'm sorry. No, get that off your chest. We're going around. We're getting the opinion. Your opinion is capable of. I was there 9, 10, and 11, and I left the end of 11 back. You were depleted already? Yeah, and I think we're going to go back. Two years. You're there and two years in Afghanistan. Wow. So people here don't understand what the rest of the world is like. It's like there's crunchy smooth Nutella. It's just like there's only one option. That's it."]]},{"id":"ne-laPnmFcE","slug":"freestyle-and-the-question-of-the-week-on-stage-at-channel-5","title":"Freestyle and the question of the week","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[2,"We've got two more. Welcome to the stage, man. I appreciate it. My name is Maceo. Maceo, where are you from, man? I'm from Philly. Hell yeah, me too. Fuck yeah. What are you doing today? I'm out here. I was outside shooting interviews, like you on the street, asking people what they think about you, how they found out about Channel 5. I have a platform called We Them Media. We've been putting up questions every week on like a crypto bounty board and having people around the world go out and ask questions. This week's question was, what's something that made you smile this week? So, Andrew, what's something that made you smile this week?"],[63,"Something that made me smile, man, I've been in Denver five weeks, I came out here for a conference, and I'm going back home on Thursday. and I'm excited to see my niece and nephew. I've been like away from them and I saw them on Zoom on Sunday Yeah, and I feel like it made my whole week Best of luck man, can I freestyle, can I freestyle? And you wanna freestyle? Yeah, yeah, yeah I think people are a bit tired of six foot, seven foot, so BJ, if you have a lo-fi, royalty-free, hip-hop beat from the internet Can you play that real quick? Can I have a beat on my phone?"],[89,"Yeah, that works Hell yeah Can I hear you this? Yeah, sure Fuck yeah And if you could ask people around the world one more question, what do you ask them? Uh, what? It's not me, it's your time Okay, he said, you can't put me on the spot, fuck yeah, y'all hear that, you can hear it, yeah, okay, 2023, I was with this dude in Pittsburgh, with Funky Close and my bro, Isaac, now I'm at Channel 5 again, in 2026 in Denver, I don't come in this district, but I'm up in this district, and you know I'll wrap it up, ooh, but I'm not done yet, that last guy went, for like eight minutes, I said, is he finished, he said, no, so,"],[142,"It's like Andrew said, it's time to go Now I'm on a stage, taking up my own time, on a roll Yeah, I said, what's your question for the fucking world? Somebody else I said, what they think about America outside of America I said, that's a good fucking question What do they think about America? The world's like going to war and shit, they're blaming us I don't know if you guys know, but apparently Most people in Nigeria last month only had 20 hours of electricity That's fucking crazy And that's because gas prices are going up And their whole electric grid runs on gasoline that shit is fucked. Hope you guys enjoy this shit and run me up on YouTube with Nvidia. Check me out. Thank you very much."]]},{"id":"enaFl4XPCy4","slug":"an-irish-fan-and-an-aspiring-journalist-in-the-channel-5-line","title":"An Irish fan and an aspiring journalist","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[1,"Man, you gotta do it. It's all good, it's all good. She's a little shy. Alright, quick. It's alright, that's a real one. What up? What's up, man? What's your name? Aiden. Alright, that shit is not level. I can tell off the road. It is! Oh, the gimbal? Yeah, it's a DJ. We are late, so we should go in soon. Okay, yeah, yeah, we won't hold you for too long. So how'd you find out about 10.05? You're repping, you're repping, you're repping. Yeah, 10.05, fuck the authorities. Okay. 10.05, we are the best number. You gotta hold the mic up, though. We are the best number. How'd you find out?"],[25,"I'm Irish. Are you really? Yeah. So what do you think about the kneecap content? Southern Irish. Oh, it's awesome. Reunification of Ireland. How do you feel about my hat? It's hard. Oh, actually, it's not hard. Fuck that shit. I like that. Good man, though. Actually, nah. It's a UK hat. Low-key fuck Britain, but like. High-key, high-key. Fuck all the colonial powers. Yeah, bro. We're here, but we don't fuck with it. Can't go anywhere else. U.S. passport. Alright. So how do you find that about Channel 5? Shit, I've been watching for a while. Okay, favorite piece of content? Yeah. Probably the reunif or Revival of the Irish language the most recent one, but like I like the old gas new brakes and the old stuff too"],[60,"Yeah, but you're Irish guy and he talks with it when you dignify his people"],[65,"Okay, what do you feel like answer does really well like oh bad he gets the Like craziest things out of people he knows how to interview people and get him to like open up feel comfortable like the whole Shia LaBeouf Shia LaBeouf He was like talking about some shit that he probably you know, maybe a little sus to talk about but Andrew Callaghan got him to open up the whole like I'm not homophobic, but"],[92,"I'm not homophobic, but like Over the last couple weeks, I've been putting up $100 bounties with a partner in the crypto space for people who go out and ask questions Yeah, people in India and Nigeria, Uganda and India participate so far. If you could ask people around the world one question right now What would you want answers to?"],[116,"Are we really going to settle for this Fucking program that we're Being fed Are we really going to settle for the program that we're being fed Okay, fuck yeah After Channel 5, who are people you think are doing this work well? I don't know, honestly Not many We Them Media We Them Media, I'll check it out Fuck yeah, man, appreciate you Enjoy the show You too Thank you for letting us borrow him Can I put a speaker on the drum? Is it made out of plastic? Come over here, come over here What's your name? Drake Shout out to Drake, the videographer What's up, what's up, what's up?"],[153,"Can I ask you guys a couple questions before you guys head inside? Yeah Fuck yeah, my name is Maceo And I'm here with We Them Media What's your name? Britt Okay, shout out to you, Britt Hey What do you think about Channel 5? I love Channel 5 What do you love about them? They're real And they're fun Not so dramatic, I guess, I don't really know So I'm an aspiring journalist doing shit like this And we have people in maybe four other countries Go out and shoot videos with our project Over the last couple weeks If you could ask people around the world one question"],[181,"What would you ask? Let me see"],[186,"What keeps them going? Shit's dark I want to know what keeps people going, you know what I mean? To me it's gardening But I'm like, what are other people finding positivity in? Like, I want to know So what's one thing that made you smile this week? Well, tulips are in bloom So Okay, wait, wait, wait, though, okay So, what do you think Sorry, you see I'm actually trying to be like Andrew Callaghan What do you feel like he does really well That someone we should take note of? Listens, literally, that's it I think that's why he gets The most interesting conversations going Is because he literally can hear"],[222,"And it paused I think it takes that To connect, you know Are there any stories you feel like somebody like him Should Be Surfacing That We're Not Seeing Enough Information About Are You Confused About I'm Confused About Everything Nowadays Huh I Don't Know I Feel Like They Hit Every Corner They're Usually Where I Discover Cool New Other Things Going On You Know What I Mean But I Don't Know I Think Peer-To-Peer Is Always The Best Way To Go So Whatever Us Normal People Are Doing Fuck The 1% You Know Absolutely What Do You Feel Like Is The Biggest Global Issue In The World Right Now Oh My God There's A Lot"],[259,"I don't know. I guess this is such a deep one. Biggest issue in the world right now, I would just say it's just not a very equitable world for anyone, you know? It's impossible. And it's impossible everywhere. Deadass, I don't know. It's kind of a big topic, but I don't know. No, but you killed it, you know, I talked to somebody today, and this girl in Nigeria She shot an interview for us, she told me in Nigeria, there are some people who had less than 20 hours of electricity last night Literally, it's just like no one, it's time to pay taxes, and it's like fucking insane to watch everything that's going on"],[307,"But we are blessed, we're obviously standing here in Denver, chilling out, smoking a joint, and get to go see some fun shit But yeah, oh, yeah, there's shit on fire in Nebraska, you know, it's like forest fires Yeah, we'll brush there, but yeah, bad this guy's trying to rush me to finish If you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask? I already asked you that? Yeah, you did All right, sick. I'm a little bit drunk and we're wrapping up. Yes"]]},{"id":"bvortImszoI","slug":"documenting-war-from-all-sides-in-the-channel-5-line","title":"Documenting war from all sides","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"I'm doing interviews. Can I interview you guys? Hell yeah. What's your name? What's up? Luchi. Luchi? It's nice to meet you, man. Maceo. Brody. Brody? It's nice to meet you, man. This is Tim. Yeah. What's happening? Nice to meet you. Fuck yeah. Can I hear you guys? Mike? I'll tell you about what I'm doing. It's like the stakes are so low. I'm inspired by Channel 5 and I'm trying to do like man on the street content, but get people around the world out, like going out and asking questions. So you guys use AI at all? Yeah. So, you know, people say you query the AI, I'm trying to get people out in the world, we give away a hundred bucks in crypto every week to people that go out and ask our questions on video, pick our favorite ones. And essentially, whoever, when we pick our question, we're querying the globe, right? We have people in India, Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda, participate so far outside the U.S. And we want to be able to give people the power to be like, you know, I have a question posted on the internet and know people are going to go out and ask the question around the globe so we can start to talk together about what's actually happening."],[52,"Okay And I think in this moment where we're going to war, right, it's like, how do we even think about the impact of this war in different parts of the planet, like, that we're never even going to think about and concede. So I think it's critical that we kind of document this moment from as many perspectives as possible. Because I say the victors are the history books, the victors. True. So I think this time we should do our work to archive, you know, from all sides. True. Yeah, you said that. Hell yeah. What are your names? Lucci. Lucci, yeah, you said that. Maceo, very nice to meet you."],[75,"Nice to meet you. You said Brody? Brody, yeah. Are you guys from here in Denver? Yeah. Okay, what was that? You rapping? No Okay, fuck. Yeah, so what brings you guys out to channel 5? Shit, I mean news, bro, but news on this planet. Yeah, okay What makes it stand out? Yeah, she can pass it back and forth. No, no, you're all good Brody. You're all good I'm just saying you're both using the same like so pass it back and forth he's going for it and I support it man. I support it. What do you think makes him stand out? like the way his approach like yeah what do you look at what you like yeah he's doing that right"],[110,"he's a good journalist bro yeah he gets in the cut he gets deep he gets deep in the cut he gets both sides of this both sides yeah he he asks the questions that you really want to hear you know what I mean he doesn't even really ask the questions he lets people just talk right yeah he doesn't ask the questions he just lets people talk fuck yeah fuck yeah okay well I'll take that note maybe the rest of the night I'm just gonna hit people with Megan said what you want to say About Channel 5 Yeah Fuck yeah What's your message to Andrew? What's up, dawg?"],[140,"Yo Stay Custer Free Stay Custer Free Fuck yeah Cheers See you offering me some Fuck yeah Well, thank you guys Enjoy the show"],[152,"Booyah"]]},{"id":"qjfvrsmwJSI","slug":"which-denver-stories-go-uncovered","title":"Which Denver stories go uncovered","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"And I want to ask people about what they feel like is a story in Denver that's not being covered enough, or that Andrew could do justice to. And that's like, the whole story is just like a call to action for Andrew, period. I have no idea. That's okay. I don't know if there's any stories that I haven't heard about."],[18,"That's fair. I guess it's not so much that maybe you haven't heard about, but that maybe All of America or like, you know, it's like, that makes sense. But there's no pressure to have answers to the question, right? The goal is to ask a lot of people. Absolutely Yeah, I'm not too sure, man What's your name, though? I'm Paul Paul, it's nice to meet you, man Maceo Maceo? Yeah, yeah, yeah Hey, what's up, dude? What's going on? I'm figuring this camera Yeah, that's a sweet little camera Right, I have one, too But he had it on other settings with me So I'm figuring it out"],[45,"So what do you guys What is it? I have a platform called We Them Media Okay And we've been doing, like, trying to I do stuff in the crypto space Okay And I'm trying to create, like, a platform That essentially is incentivizing people to be able to get out and do like grassroots journalism so we can surface primary."]]},{"id":"80E_4pItE_Y","slug":"a-hitchhiker-on-a-spiritual-mission-outside-channel-5","title":"A hitchhiker on a spiritual mission","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[3,"But you are here for the show? Okay, hell yeah. Well, can I interview you? You're a fan enough to be outside, like, fucking it up. Let it be known."],[15,"It's okay, you can sit. I'm gonna sit too. I'm all about the vibes. What's your name? I'm Alex. Alex, hell yeah. I'm Maceo. You're recording? Say it. Fuck yeah, shout out to Tim. Tim's a goat. Yeah, shout out Tim. Yeah, yeah, I've been the camera guy for a lot of people. Some people say you're afraid to be in front of that around you. That shit, right? Should I look at the camera or should I look at you? Look at me. Yeah, fuck the camera. Alright, alright. Fuck the camera. I hate the camera. Hell yeah. Get that shit out of here. I don't want the camera. So you're from Denver? I am... Okay, okay. So this is a long story. You found the right guy. You found the right guy. Okay, run it. Alright, so I'm on this spiritual mission, okay? So I've been traveling from... So I was born in Texas. I lived in Massachusetts for about a year. And then my life fell apart. So I started traveling the country, hitchhiking across the country. And..."],[64,"Really? Yeah. Hitchhiking, how's that? Good, I've been doing it for about five weeks now. I found myself in Denver about a week ago. I decided to settle here, try and make some money so I can keep going, you know. Okay, how's the hustling going? Not so good, I'll admit, so it's pretty desperate out here. I saw Andrew Colligan's show and I was like, damn, I want to go there, but I can't, so. What do you like about Andrew? What does he do right? What does he do right? Well, I haven't seen him since like three years ago but I just like how it's like semi-ironic like he's got the fire explosions and like all that shit and then he has the people like rap at the end and it's like I don't know I think it's cool how he interviews like homeless people and just like regular people you don't see that a lot with other interviewers or YouTubers or people they always interview like I don't know they don't interview like"],[125,"Just the regular folks and the crazy people. Do you remember when you first found out about Andrew? About? First encounter. Maybe like five years ago on YouTube. Uh-huh. Yeah. Remember which video was? Not a clue. I remember like the The sex convention one that was pretty funny. Yeah, that's funny You know I actually also saw him live three years ago in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on that same tour I saw Oh cool playing videos from the sex convention like during that thing I'm pretty sure oh I see I see if somebody in Pittsburgh for that show was in the talent show and also had been in that"],[161,"Video and so he pulled the video to show us specifically because somebody from that video was in the audience with this Oh, I see I see I think I beat them in the talent show Nice, that's cool, that's cool. Thank you. Thank you. What would you do? I freestyle with my friend. Okay, cool, cool so Why are y'all interviewing people is it like for Andrew or is it just like a personal thing? Nah, I don't worry about Andrew at all So it's just like a, y'all are like vlogging and stuff? Yeah, high key, honestly I have a platform called We Them Media And I've been doing content in the crypto space for a couple of years"],[192,"And interviewing black people working in crypto Trying to understand like what the fuck is this crypto shit about And I have a pretty good idea It's about inflation, it's about public goods It's about a lot of shit, but Inflation, yeah, that's a good one Yeah, that's like the primary one that it's about Yeah, for sure But you know, to even get that through line Most people don't have enough time to find the through line and that shit, they don't present it. It's not self-evident when you talk about crypto. But that aside, I've been around the globe over the last couple of years covering that stuff,"],[216,"and now I'm trying to evolve into a grassroots platform that's supporting people around the world and doing journalism, surfacing stories from different parts of the planet. So now you're just interviewing everyone. I interviewed a homeless guy last week. He spent an hour walking down the street. I bought him two beers at Circle K. Oh, nice. And I bought him two waters. We gave one of them away. I mean, I'm homeless. Where's my two beers? I just play, I just play. Now you can have a shot, though. I'm all good, I'm all good I'm just saying, you could But you don't have to be homeless, right?"],[244,"You could just say, I want a shot, and I would offer you a shot What is it? It's a good question, it's Jose Cuervo It was like 315 for the double shot Oh, I see, I see Two for five over on Colfax, though But what's it called?"],[257,"He's a man of the people But what do you feel like is a story in America We're not covering right now? Okay, so God is real"],[268,"Spirituality is is becoming something that is very very important right now and I think what people aren't noticing is that all these things are happening in the world right now are all due to spirituality and the influences certain people have over spirituality I don't know how to describe it but I will say over our communities of faith right is what you mean like people exerting their influence over their communities of faith yeah it's sort of like Is that what you mean? Or am I putting words in your mouth? I'm saying through God, people who have found God are able to influence the world in certain ways."],[315,"And a lot of the things that we're seeing in the world right now are influenced or are due to people finding God and also making mistakes, such as the Iran War. They got a party bus, I think Yeah Yeah, but I hear it Yeah, yeah So people who have found God And are using God to try and influence the world And bring peace to the world I think there's a lot of people There's some people out there like that And they're not really being talked about or recognized Oh yeah, I appreciate that And if you could ask people around the world one question What would you ask them?"],[360,"I would ask them, let me think for a moment, take your time, there's no rush, the stage is yours"],[370,"I don't know, I would ask what are we doing, like what are we doing in the world, why do we not recognize each other as just one people, like why do we treat our homeless like they're filth, why do we treat each other like we hate each other, why don't we just love each other, because there's just We're just one love. We're just one people. We're all just one. And we're one with God. Yet we treat each other like we're terrible. That's all I have to say. Why are we doing this? Speaking of that, so what's it been like being homeless? It hasn't been that bad. I have some money that I saved up. But speaking of money, I'm running out. Yeah, yeah. So, but it's pretty difficult. Is this like the closest to zero you've been? Is this the brokest you've been? Like in a vulnerable state? Yeah, pretty much. So what's that actually been like? Like that's real. It's extremely challenging."],[424,"Challenging but I I challenge myself on purpose to make myself Grow spiritually quicker, and I'll be honest. It's actually Vastly increased the pace in which I grow spiritually"],[442,"Not really a plan no direction. I just sort of planned along as I was going I just sort of figured I'd go across the US So, you started in Massachusetts? Yeah, I started in Massachusetts, headed up to Burlington, Vermont, then New York, then New York City, then down to Virginia, then North Carolina, then all the way to Oklahoma, then Arkansas, and then left, and then Colorado, yeah. Sick, okay. Yeah, it was really hard, it was really hard, I faced a lot of challenges, some people hurt me, um, yeah So yeah, we're, uh, I guess, one of the, um, the hardest situations in that whole time getting here"],[496,"What was the hardest situation? I mean, just kind of like where you felt, like, this is difficult Oh, uh, well, one guy held a knife to me for six hours, uh, that was, that was fun Why? Because he didn't like what I was doing And because I'm doing a good job Because I'm good at what I do And yeah, I guess that's about it Damn, okay, so if you were to leave here, what direction would you go? Where would you, kind of, what's the next step? You like it here so far? Yeah, I love it here It's a really beautiful city I Would Say My Next Plan I Honestly I'm Not Sure Where I'm Going To Go After Honestly I'm Just Looking For Resources I'm Asking God For Resources And Hopefully God Comes Through There Are A Lot Of Resources Here To House People I Don't Know If You've Looked Into The Websites I Can Hook You Up I Can Call Someone They Know A Lot Of Different Like Oh Yeah There's Like The 2-1-1 Telephone Number I For Like My Friend"],[563,"does a lot of activism. I don't know exactly the websites or what to do, but I don't know. I heard it because I felt like this place is very expensive and I'm struggling even with an apartment and a job. I was told that there's a lot of resources here over other cities and states to help. I don't know, I could call someone too. He moves around so much with that thing great camera great camera man awesome it's a cool angle and I like to get like a drone is like fly it around yeah y'all are pretty cool your message for Andrew a message for Andrew okay Andrew I'm waiting outside your"],[613,"venue. I'm a man of the people. Come and find me, please. I would love to be interviewed by you. What would you want to talk about? That's a good question. I guess we were just talking about God and stuff. There's a lot to talk about with that. Also not a lot to talk about. I don't know. I'm not really too sure."]]},{"id":"pcG6qlknIOE","slug":"do-we-have-free-will-a-debate-outside-channel-5","title":"Do we have free will?","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Do we have free will? Do we not have free will? You got to hold the mic if we're going to be in the conversation. You got it. This is for my YouTube. This is for We Them Media. We Them Media. What do I think about free will? I think free will is, I think it's real. You know, I think we get to choose how we see our reality and we get to choose how we respond to our perception of reality. And so for me, you know, I can tell you my purpose is to address this that doesn't fucking work in my life. And I get to choose that. I also get to choose to be a fucking victim and be like,"],[24,"Damn, my life sucks. This shit is ass and lay in my bed. And I'm not saying it's easy to choose something different. Grief is real. We have learned helplessness. I've struggled with that shit But I think we have a choice. What about you? What do you think? What do I think? We Them Media, what was your name again? Maceo. Maceo. Maceo from We Them Media I don't know, man And I'm searching for an answer You know, had you asked me Until this motherfucker gave me a book on this Had you asked me this two months ago What was the book, bro? Free Will, Sam Harris"],[52,"I would have told you that, man, just what you said That we have the ability to respond to our situation But from what I understand and I'm repeating things that you've studied that I don't know that much about. Apparently we do not. Apparently, our actions are not that they're predetermined, but that we are internally reacting to things. And what I'm saying to you right now, it may come off the cuff. My brain's already determining these words. I'm in my head justifying them to you. Just like the actions. I'm going to justify them to you. Our brain has already decided how we're going to respond to certain circumstances"],[91,"That's our nervous system, that's just our nervous system Yeah, but what's the difference? You can choose to stop justifying right now I don't think so, man What are you justifying in your life right now?"],[101,"Shit, man, I don't know Talking to you, brother, I'm trying to get into this fucking venue I want to see some shit, but I'm out here talking to you I procrastinate sometimes and I justify it That's real, right? That's a low-stakes example But I can be like, Maceo, you're a fucking lazy guy with no integrity That's real, if I'm procrastinating as much as I am My follow through is lacking Nah, it's like different than that, man It's um"],[127,"It's different than that, man"],[131,"It's I don't know I'll give you an example Like, you know, someone you're walking out on the street And someone starts talking shit Like, what do you do in that? Like, you go through"],[145,"I don't know where I'm going with this picture Let me, let me jump out of this man, sorry So why are you saying there's no free will? Anti-video guy, you wanna say there's no free will? It's okay, it's okay Well, can I ask you one more question? If you could ask people around the world one question, what would you ask them? Do you watch No?"],[165,"Why aren't you doing what makes you happy? Because I don't know that answer, man What makes you happy? You don't know yet?"]]},{"id":"iRAGaejwzIw","slug":"immigration-independent-media-and-denver-subcultures","title":"Immigration, independent media, subcultures","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"There's a lot of conversation here about immigration, I would say. For example, could Andrew be like, okay, I'm not in Denver, but I want to get people to go out and get the perspective of people in Denver on what's going on. Or maybe, say, in Minneapolis. Say he didn't go to Minneapolis, but he said, I want people to go out and I'll give $100 to my favorite content and I'll pick as many as I want for my video. And then all of a sudden he has like primary sources from a foreign context And he's kind of leaving out the through line That's kind of what I'd like to prove a concept for my project"],[28,"And so right now we've had people participate in my my weekly bounties of a hundred bucks We have people submit from Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda, and in India so far like the last like three weeks That's crazy man Yeah, thanks"],[44,"I'm starting a company for real this month, but I've just been doing entertainment stuff, I did a High Times Magazine event, Recap, and another, there's like a three day writing camp, I don't know what to explain it, but I'm filming DJs and music and events, but I'm going to stay away from the music side, I'm trying to get more entertainment in the journalists, finding different subcultures in and around Denver and Colorado. The mic is on, I was giving it to you because you're talking Oh cool, yeah, so He's like, throw it in my hand and shake it up I'm starting another page and it's going to be my legitimate, you know, business where I'm meeting up with this family who has a food truck"],[87,"And they're opening their first physical location in Denver So I'm going to do a, you know, opening, grand opening video where it shoots from like a food truck to their grand opening thing Yeah, yeah Well cool, are you guys from here? Neither of us, we're from Pennsylvania actually But I lived here now. So did this just bring you on a journey out here or what? I came out here for a crypto conference, like ETH Denver, which was like five weeks ago. And I drove out here and my car broke down and I've kind of been like in a pot, like in a hole. Okay. And I've just gotten inspired and I've been doing a lot of shit."],[117,"Like I've been making a lot of videos. I've been getting people around the world to try and do my fucking weekly bounties. I finished a crypto class I was teaching. I feel like I've been overcommitted in so many ways. But we've been hustling, man. That's pretty badass, man. Well, hopefully you get your way back on that Oh, yeah, can I ask you a couple questions though for the video? Sure Oh, yeah You want this guy? Yeah, definitely, hit it to him I guess so Yeah Let's go, pass the camera around, baby And I like it because we got this Mase Ensemble That's the word, right?"],[144,"I'm waiting for some buddies that have my ticket So if they show up, I gotta bounce That's okay, that's okay But let's try and get this like signed behind us I feel like this is like a fucking epic scene Oh, here he is It's like the meme sound, boom That's okay, have fun, man Enjoy the show What was your name again? Paul, shout out to Paul Okay, okay"],[168,"Alright, so what's up guys? We're outside the Channel 5 Carnival here in Denver, Colorado We're about to hear people talk about their experience with Channel 5, what they like about it This is definitely a case study in independent media and journalism That's what Channel 5 is, that's what Gaya Cinco is, what all this shit is And I'm honestly, in a city like Denver, Colorado, this thing is sold out Over the past couple days, I looked up the website on Ticketmaster There was like 400 tickets, there was like 200 tickets And today I saw him posting a story, less than 100 tickets Bruh, I wonder being able to sit in the front row"],[197,"Having to sit in the fucking back of the room Because I didn't buy that shit in time So, you can tell people in Denver are fucking excited for this show And so I'm excited to talk to some people out here Fuck yeah And I have on two mics, this shit is loud as fuck"]]},{"id":"Vuc9QF3VJgQ","slug":"landscape-or-portrait-two-filmmakers-at-the-mall","title":"Landscape or portrait","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[27,"I've not honestly been in this mall at all. You'll film me, you'll film me filming him. I'll film you filming me."],[43,"Okay, yeah, take out your camera. I had to put my brain together to understand what you're even trying to say to me. Okay, I think so. I've been doing primarily landscape, I put it all on YouTube."],[60,"And I feel like the clips, I don't care if they're all landscape, if people care, they'll watch it. I like landscape better. I think it looks better. Yeah, but on Instagram, it kind of doesn't show up that way, right? Yeah, I like it No, I'm saying, me too But where the fuck is this place at?"]]},{"id":"tUXe3ykg_fc","slug":"art-activism-and-an-edibles-story-at-the-channel-5-talent-show","title":"Art activism, and an edibles story","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[2,"I was going to do a little bit of stand-up, oh, this is going to be great, okay, okay. Oh, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it."],[15,"Oh, man, these are some tough hacks to follow right now. You guys are making me feel terrible. Good. Look, I was going to tell you guys. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, okay? I grew up in the Bible, but I was going to tell you guys a story."],[30,"Do we got any pot smokers out of the crowd? Let's go! It's Colorado! We don't smoke weed! Do we got any pot eaters in the crowd? No, we don't do that! It's Colorado! Does anyone eat pot before they can eat pot? No, it's Colorado!"],[47,"I was going to tell you guys a couple of times that I ate pot in Atlanta, Georgia in the Bible. They're here to try to test you I don't know if you don't that yet, but I found the test and believe me I'm not too smart, I can't read too good No shit!"],[63,"Yeah So I got him, I got him right back this quick But anyway, I was out with a girl and I ate a bunch of pot and I forgot about it And I went home and I was past curfew, okay? So my mother, she's a good Christian lady And you know, she's kind of a little bit ditzy, let's be honest So she's like, hey man, you're acting kind of weird, you're acting kind of weird, why are you acting so weird, and I was, I was really fucked up right after about 8 weeks, and I was like, shit mom, I, I, I think I'm about to get it"],[95,"Hey, hey, courage is king, hey, don't listen to them, don't listen to them Get out of here"],[103,"Welcome to the stage, man, how you doing?"],[111,"My name doesn't matter. I represent Chiba Kills. We've got an art project that has been doing activism for the last 18 years. Thank you for coming. I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate it. What we do is we create experiences. We create moments. So that way we could, uh, for example, we did a piece out in D-Park called Perseverance and what we did was, we set up a canvas and I went up to the kids with the paint, the canvas and I said you could destroy this canvas, you could do whatever you want, but I'm demonstrating to you that you can change a space within a period of time without having to be afraid"],[150,"of a police officer or a government official telling me you can't do that. But we're gonna do another piece called Perseverance and D-Park, I am facing a lot of shit for it. We're going to do that piece and the whole point of that piece is that we come together and took down the shade structures and the skateparks We don't need the government to do that. The people can come together and we can do it ourselves Now, I was going to come up here with the guitar, I misread the information, I couldn't bring the guitar up So what I'm going to do is I'm going to sing"],[182,"You're going to sing? Sing, create an experience, so I don't know how to describe it, so we're just going to see how we're going I'm gonna give you the mic, baby, you think?"],[194,"My aunt used to do heroin. My aunt was the only one who did not call me gay for having my hair long. So I want to let you know that people can look like they're total trash and be the most beautiful people on the planet. Now we're going to sing."],[229,"Adeline, you're so mighty fine and your beauty is divine and it makes me want to cry If I can't decide if I want to live or die But I know that I will let you fuck me up again I cannot pretend that I don't know how this ends But I can't get you out of my head Oh, Adonai, oh, Adonai, Adonai, Adonai, Adonai And I was a seven years old down there in Florida Watching the Bogies take advantage of everything My mom would take advantage of pulled over for something Like running every red light And I'll tell you something that's real The only thing you see is what's going on in your life"],[311,"Everything else is just moving, the static we're grooving Thank you so much"],[319,"Yo! He was like, how long, how long, how long can I go? That's what he was doing"],[329,"You need a hand getting up here"],[352,"I Don't Lancelon"]]},{"id":"mHSMrIwjbck","slug":"freestyle-spoken-word-and-dance-at-the-channel-5-talent-show","title":"Freestyle, spoken word and dance","place":"Denver","who":"Maceo","paras":[[0,"Any of us find the time to reimagine the things that need to be healed these days. I've just been having problems breathing. I've been running on fumes, can't run like I used to. I'm leaning, learning, unlearning, never turning on. I'm blasting heat on my AC because my car alarm keeps going off, but that's because there's a water in the reservoir. I'm tired. I'm tired just like all of y'all. Misaligned and unbalanced, letting air escape me So I, just like all of you, have been trying to find alignment Rotated our ways and now we tread on what we breathe these days When I ask my dad, what does it feel like to go through mental health as an immigrant right now?"],[45,"Do you know what he tells me? He says, son, restoration is a journey It's a journey of repairs and replacements. Some parts of me have to stay, and other parts of me, they have to change. But I am still the same vehicle, and how often do you throw your vehicle away?"],[83,"Welcome to the stage, how are you doing today, what's your name? My name is E, just the letter E Yeah, thanks for coming to the stage, I got a question for you, a channel 5 hypothetical question Would you rather share a studio apartment in downtown Denver for one year, you can only leave the house once a week with either clavicular or Martha-Valone-Animal-Psychic I feel like Martha would be real interesting almost She's definitely the feeling of the doctor"],[114,"Want to get to know someone like that? She costs $1200 per session That would lay around, that would lay around Okay, here's what's fucked up by that scene, we'll get to your topic in a second But like, I thought that Martha would like help him find closure, you know what I mean? I thought it's kind of like a sort of woo-woo way of her game. Like, I talked to Morrison and he's saying you need to move on like he's in heaven. That was sort of a sweet, psychic thing, but she was like sending him to people's home addresses, so... It was so fucked up. The best off-camera moment was like after ten different address stops, Rick looks at me and he's like,"],[149,"You think Martha's full of shit? So we blocked her number together."],[159,"I don't have much of a talent, but I do always love to have a good time"],[168,"Your soul and you need a song could that song be the six"],[184,"Yee! Go Alonso! Everybody wants to get down to the margarita door! Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Well done."],[200,"No way she's going on the handstand. Perfect execution! The title of the show for the awards, party degrees!"],[214,"Give a good scenario Oh!"],[223,"With the Nike press to the sky with the first Everybody else can do some shit like that Everything down there"],[235,"Amazing job, thank you so much You did a great job Thanks for your following man, thanks so much for coming to the show Oh Shit The Fit and Morgon may be challenged by this man Ho ho ho ho What is he gonna do? Good to see you man, what's your name? Ben, George Raaton George Raaton, what are you doing today bro? Oh we're gonna freestyle and dance a little bit for ya Okay cool, freestyle rap Oh yeah I'm gonna hold the mic to you while you're dancing and do my best to dynamically track your movements across the stage, okay? Advanced fucking Challenger? Yeah, would you like a lo-fi hip-hop song that kind of accompanied this journey that's good?"],[270,"This sounds good. Can you give me a topic? Oh, you want topics? You want freestyle topics? Alright, here's what we're gonna do. Do we have two microphones? You can do some word association. So, I'm gonna have you start rapping. You're gonna have about a minute or two. I'm gonna go into the crowd. I'm gonna get some words for you to spit on every hate bars, okay? Oh. Who would like to command them by the first time? Oh, talk about the gentrification of the Ski Country by Vail Corporation."],[300,"Hey, GJ got some shit down Anything C'mon boy Where am I going acapella? Acapella? Kicking it down and we gotta say We ain't that Coachella We got that snow coming down, trickling down that mail Going on the ground out of your own town I say I can't afford to live here cause I'm living here What you doing when you visit? If you ain't eating while I'm kicking, well I kick it clear We Need A Little Rap New Topic"],[334,"Master Veilance Master Veilance Big Brother Watching Us Master Veilance Master Veilance"],[359,"We got one more topic in the chamber, sir, what is it talking about? One more topic. Redcoats. Redcoats, the British Air. Redcoats are coming, Redcoats are coming, Redcoats are coming. I said, you're coming to get a motor running. Gotta get the oil I got in the line. Gotta do it as you can. Make it on stage as you can. I love it when you're bouncing and motherfucking trouncing. Gotta kick it, man, you do the world right. While we're bouncing, you did that man right in that documentary. I'm gonna read, into this family, his spirit, all I see is free, and you, you're gonna read. Thank you so much. I appreciate it."],[402,"Fuck yeah. Thanks so much for coming to the stage, I really appreciate it. How's it going tonight? Good, what's your name? Mikaela. Mikaela, where are you coming from? Uh, originally from Minnesota."],[415,"Now, would you rather share a studio apartment in downtown Denver for one year and not be able to leave with Crip Mac or Nick Shirley? Crip Mac! Crip Mac! Crip Mac! Crip Mac! Crip Mac! Crip Mac! Crip Mac for you! He says that on the same stuff all night. Crip Mac! Crip Mac! So what's your talent today? Um, I'm a nude model, so I'm just gonna get naked. This is not a 21 plus show, right? It's a 21 plus show Yeah, 21 plus show Can you play 6 foot 7 foot real quick?"]]}]}